Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
In addition to correct the blog publication reference (the right link is: https://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/39-pessoal/blog/316-palestra-de-richard-stallman-na-universidade-de-estocolmo), and also copy-replying to RMS and other lists (which I forgot to do previously, but now it should be

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Correction: The publication on his blog about Stallman's speech is here: https://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/39-pessoal/blog/316-palestra-de-richard-stallman-na-universidade-de-estocolmo signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Even by requiring the licensee to state when he adapts the original work, that doesn't solve the fact that someone can twist the licensor opinions without even knowing he did so. For example, a Brazilian (that calls himself "free software activist") watched Richard Stallman talk on Stockholm, in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > "In 4.0, you must indicate if you modified the material and retain an >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-16 Thread IngeGNUe
On 06/16/16 19:18, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Quoting part of a statement

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-16 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Quoting part of a statement correctly is legitimate because that practice is

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-16 Thread Julie Marchant
On 06/16/2016 05:27 AM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >> People could always try and twist our words even with the proper licensing. > > Sure, but with the proper licensing (NoDerivs), it's easier to enforce > it, because it's easier to prove that the word twisting is a copyright > violation

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-16 Thread Luke
On 06/16/2016 06:06 AM, Julie Marchant wrote: > On 06/16/2016 05:27 AM, Tiberiu-Cezar Tehnoetic wrote: >>> People could always try and twist our words even with the proper licensing. >> Sure, but with the proper licensing (NoDerivs), it's easier to enforce >> it, because it's easier to prove that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-15 Thread Isaac David
Le mar. 14 juin 2016 à 22:16, Isaac David a écrit : essentially the same Luke Shumaker's latest version I mean "same as Luke Shumaker's"

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-13 Thread coadde
On 06/13/2016 05:33 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > The invariant sections in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-12 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Arch linux is steadily becoming Systemd/Linux rather than > GNU/Linux Please

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-11 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] For those who are interested, http://gnu.org/philosophy/copyright-vs-community.html

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-10 Thread concernedfossdev
Arch linux is steadily becoming Systemd/Linux rather than GNU/Linux as systemd gradually, inevitably, rewrites all the various little utilities in it's image. Why does it do this? Why so you can use them (and increasingly other free software projects which now do things the "systemd way")

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-10 Thread Crazytoon
El 10/06/16 a las 05:56, coadde escribió: > On 06/10/2016 05:53 AM, André Silva wrote: >> On 06/10/2016 12:59 AM, Luke Shumaker wrote: >>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:55:26 -0400, >>> Richard Stallman wrote: > 1. In this formal context, I believe that we should use formal name >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-10 Thread Luke
On 06/09/2016 07:46 PM, André Silva wrote: > On 06/09/2016 08:08 PM, Riley Baird wrote: >>> Yes, you're right in that point, however Parabola is maintaining a good >>> relationship with FSF, GNU project and Richard Stallman too and they >>> insist we use 'Arch GNU/Linux' instead. >>> >>> In some

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-09 Thread André Silva
On 06/09/2016 08:08 PM, Riley Baird wrote: >> Yes, you're right in that point, however Parabola is maintaining a good >> relationship with FSF, GNU project and Richard Stallman too and they >> insist we use 'Arch GNU/Linux' instead. >> >> In some words, if we put in the Social Contract 'Arch

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [GNU-linux-libre] [Dev] [consensus][due: 2016-06-13]: New version for Parabola Social Contract

2016-06-09 Thread coadde
On 06/08/2016 12:43 PM, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote: > Well, unless I was really blind, I couldn't see the original sender > (Luke Shumaker?) saying anything about "FOSS". Yes it's right! he never means FOSS, however his thinking is based on it about operating system terms for Parabola and Arch