Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

i like this iniative too. as someone who regularly has to help people in education (I sell a lot of freedom laptops to people in education: both students and teachers) I get questions about education software a lot. kudos to you for setting up this directory. On 30/03/2019 20:04, Adonay Felipe

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Most of the clarifications from Adonay are correct, however the software freedom movement does not support any patenting of software generally. That some cases of software patents used defensively might exist in practice is a complex issue. But in general, there is correct consensus that software

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Em 11/03/2019 20:18, Erin Glass escreveu: > I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech > ' wiki and > edit-a-thon on April 3 that may be of interest to the free software > community. Nice initiative indeed. Awesome! :D

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Em 16/03/2019 14:32, Pen-Yuan Hsing escreveu: > (1) There is a very clear and informative graphic delineating the > differences between what is free (as in freedom, not free of charge) > software, open source software, and copylefted software (such as those > with a GPL license) [1][2]. As you can

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 18/03/2019 08:30, Ineiev wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 05:32:35PM +, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: (2) Outside of software, I think it is also crucial to consider everything else (e.g., teaching material like artwork, multimedia, text, etc.). Specifically, there should be discussion around free

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 05:32:35PM +, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: > > (2) Outside of software, I think it is also crucial to consider > everything else (e.g., teaching material like artwork, multimedia, > text, etc.). Specifically, there should be discussion around free > culture and the use of the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Hi all, Much has already been said, so I'd just like to suggest a few quick things for reference: (1) There is a very clear and informative graphic delineating the differences between what is free (as in freedom, not free of charge) software, open source software, and copylefted software

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 20:12:24 -0700 Aaron wrote: > I'm with you here. I still today see lots of people using "Open > Source" with NO care for the free/libre values. I often have > conversations where i think the real essence of these confusions is that people use the terms "open-source" and

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 2019-03-15 7:25 p.m., overthefa...@opengroupware.ch wrote: > On 2019-03-13 08:30, Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 2019-03-13 7:05 a.m., overthefa...@opengroupware.ch wrote: >>> >>> I follow what you're saying about open/open source and not demonizing >>> it, but would you mind clarifying the part about

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 2019-03-13 08:30, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 2019-03-13 7:05 a.m., overthefa...@opengroupware.ch wrote: I follow what you're saying about open/open source and not demonizing it, but would you mind clarifying the part about open source not really being different? What is it in near unity with?

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Note that outside the tech world, "Open Source" has at least one other common meaning. In the intelligence world it is commonly available information (newsreports, published web sites, "readable by everyone" Facebook posts etc. That's to distinguish it from closed sources such as direct human

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Erin Glass wrote: > I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech > https://ethicaledtech.info/wiki/Meta:Welcome_to_Ethical_EdTech wiki Erin, Nathan: Thanks for bringing this to the attention of the list. I appreciated seeing Erin's presentation with Scott Dexter and Evan Misshula at

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 2019-03-13 11:39 a.m., Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > Aaron Wolf wrote: >> There's a bunch of confusion going on here. <…> >> >> As far as trying to talk about these topics in general, I suggest the use of >> FLO (Free/Libre/Open), as discussed at >>

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Dear Erin and Nathan. I hope the following makes things clearer Libre software, free software and open source are practically the same thing. I usually ask this type of software to be called libre to avoid the ambiguity between gratuity and freedom. Libre is unmistakably the best term to

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Aaron Wolf wrote: > There's a bunch of confusion going on here. <…> > > As far as trying to talk about these topics in general, I suggest the use of > FLO (Free/Libre/Open), as discussed at > https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/free-libre-open Argh! That’s a perfect idea to get some more

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Nathan Schneider wrote: > My kid's sickness is creeping through my brain! I mis-wrote. My wishes for a speedy recovery. ...distinct categories for ‘free/libre’ [1] and ‘open source’ software [2].  What definitions of that terms do you use, so this is required? >…> > Free/libre = GPL

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 2019-03-13 7:05 a.m., overthefa...@opengroupware.ch wrote: > > I follow what you're saying about open/open source and not demonizing > it, but would you mind clarifying the part about open source not really > being different? What is it in near unity with? > The set of licenses that the OSI

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Hi! Could the wiki be licensed under CC BY-SA? https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ Best, Michael McMahon | Web Developer, Free Software Foundation GPG Key: 4337 2794 C8AD D5CA 8FCF FA6C D037 59DA B600 E3C0 https://fsf.org | https://gnu.org On 03/13/2019 10:05 AM,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

On 2019-03-12 22:40, Aaron Wolf wrote: There's a bunch of confusion going on here. Free/libre includes all freely licensed works, even when GPL incompatible. GNU itself hosts a list of specifically FREE/LIBRE licenses that are accepted as such despite the downside of being GPL-incompatible.

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There's a bunch of confusion going on here. Free/libre includes all freely licensed works, even when GPL incompatible. GNU itself hosts a list of specifically FREE/LIBRE licenses that are accepted as such despite the downside of being GPL-incompatible.

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Ugh, sorry. My kid's sickness is creeping through my brain! I mis-wrote. Free/libre = GPL compatible Open source = GPL compatible + GPL incompatible open codebases And I think the fact that some software in there that is GPL compatible is not categorized as free/libre is simply a mistake in an

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Nathan Schneider wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 11:08 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Erin Glass wrote: >>> I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech >>> https://ethicaledtech.info/wiki/Meta:Welcome_to_Ethical_EdTech wiki >> >> ...the first thing that strikes in

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Thanks Erin and Dmitry. I take responsibility for this. For one thing, the Atom entry was incorrect—MIT is free/libre according the criteria I was using (GPL compatibility ). I would think of "open source" as everything that's GPL compatible plus

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Hi Dmitry, You raise good questions. In this early stage of the project, we have been focusing on showing educators alternatives to commercial (and invasive) forms of academic technology more than establishing hard distinctions between free/libre and open source software (which as you note, is

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Erin Glass wrote: > I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech > ' wiki and > edit-a-thon on April 3 that may be of interest to the free software > community. Looks interesting. And the first thing that strikes in the

[libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

Hi all, I'm writing to let you know about the 'Ethical Ed Tech ' wiki and edit-a-thon on April 3 that may be of interest to the free software community. Nathan Schneider (CU Boulder) and I recently started the wiki with the aim of