Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other clauses. This is a > > popular misconception. > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0006/msg00119.html > > This appears to be specific to the Apache license. Cf the FSF license > di

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:54:49PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The BSD SW would convert to GPL, which is allowable if it doesn't > > contain the advertising clause. > > Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, John Cowan wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, David Johnson wrote: > > > Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts to > > the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be > > distributed under the BSD license? > > The application without

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Rick Moen wrote: > begin David Johnson quotation: > > > Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts > > to the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be > > distributed under the BSD license? > > A licence adheres to a particular

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread John Cowan
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, David Johnson wrote: > Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts to > the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be > distributed under the BSD license? The application without the library of course is distributable under its own

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Rick Moen
begin David Johnson quotation: > Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts > to the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be > distributed under the BSD license? A licence adheres to a particular _copy_ of a copyrighted work. Take a third party's

RE: The "M" word...money.

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Nelson Rush wrote: > "If you like my program you must vote for Bush." Except that you used the word "must", whereas the original request for cash used the word "can". I read this as an option, not a requirement. In any case, a statement like this would be better included in

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > No. BSD, MIT, Artistic, and LGPL are all convertible to GPL. You'd > > > leave out those people who were using these licenses to interoperate > > > with software licensed under non-GPL terms as a single work. > > > > Hmmm, this isn't how I un

RE: The "M" word...money.

2000-09-05 Thread Nelson Rush
"If you like my program you must vote for Bush." -Original Message- From: Steve Mallett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The "M" word...money. Is there anything wrong (philosophically or "letter of the license" wise) wit

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Paul Crowley
David Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Considering a GPL-compatible v2 of the QPL wasn't good enough. Eh? Who would not have been satisfied with a genuinely GPL-compatible QPL? -- __ \/ o\ Employ me! Cryptology, security, Perl, Linux, TCP/IP, and smarts. /\__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]http:

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The BSD SW would convert to GPL, which is allowable if it doesn't > contain the advertising clause. Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other clauses. This is a popular misconception. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0006/msg00119.h

The "M" word...money.

2000-09-05 Thread Steve Mallett
Is there anything wrong (philosophically or "letter of the license" wise) with a programmer releasing his code with an additional message after the license statement that may state something like"If you like my program you can mail me a chq at."? With all currently approved licenses? --

Re: Please remove from list

2000-09-05 Thread Rob Levin
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Greg Wright wrote: > On 4/09/00 at 10:58 Rob Levin wrote: > > >I've tried this repeatedly via the appropriate channels. Please remove: > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >from the mailing list. > > > >Thank you. > > > Its probably better to ask that a foot

QT and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Patrick BURNAND
I think the biggest motivation for TrollTech to multiple-license Qt is to create a de facto standard, to try to overtake Gtk+. They surely seen that Gtk+ is the prefered toolkit for the Linux users and considered the GPLing as a way to survive. IHMO the Qt toolkit is technically superior to Gtk+

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Re: Qt, GPL, Artistic

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 09:25:58AM -0700, Chip Salzenberg wrote: > According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > BSD, MIT, Artistic, and LGPL are all convertible to GPL. > > Artistic isn't convertible to GPL: It requires project forks to take > new names, which is not a GPL-compatible requirement. > > (I'

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
No need to cc: me. I'm on the list. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:39:34AM -0400, Lou Grinzo wrote: > This latest exchange points out one of the most troubling aspects of > software licensing--even many of the people who care about such > issues and closely read the licenses can't always agree on ex

Re: Qt, GPL, Artistic

2000-09-05 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > BSD, MIT, Artistic, and LGPL are all convertible to GPL. Artistic isn't convertible to GPL: It requires project forks to take new names, which is not a GPL-compatible requirement. (I'm not surprised you'd think it was convertible, though. Perl is dually license

FW: NASM - Don't hate me.

2000-09-05 Thread Nelson Rush
-Original Message- From: Simon Tatham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Simon Tatham Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 9:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: NASM - Don't hate me. "Nelson Rush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're a hard man to get in contact with. In what wa

Re:How hard would it be to change the NASM license

2000-09-05 Thread Nelson Rush
Someone just pointed this out to me: "Re:How hard would it be to change the NASM license (Score:2, Informative) by Simon Tatham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on Tuesday September 05, @03:55AM EST (#136) (User #66941 Info) http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/ You write: I'm just wondering what woul

RE: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Lou Grinzo
This latest exchange points out one of the most troubling aspects of software licensing--even many of the people who care about such issues and closely read the licenses can't always agree on exactly what is and isn't allowed. In this case, I think it would help everyone a great deal if the FSF

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:34:31PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > The reason it would have been impossible is that it would cause a huge > > > number of Qt based applications, including major portions of KDE, be > > > become illegal. With a GPL

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:29:36AM -0500, Nelson Rush wrote: > Are you kidding? The fact that Sun is actually going to, let alone actually > considered to, release Star Office under the GPL is more than a mere, "How > do you do?" It's quite astounding, and in fact quite improbable. StarOffice is

Re: Plan 9 license

2000-09-05 Thread Richard Stallman
Making "non authorized copies" is slavery! If you don't have power over other people, you are a slave. Boy, that is extreme.