On Wed, Feb 21 2001, at 22:11:52 -0800, David Johnson wrote:
> Since I can't locate the archives anywhere, could someone either point me to
> them or offer a recap of a prior discussion?
I have been looking for the archive myself, and asked for it on this
mailing list, but no one responded. I se
I've saved almost all of the list since I subscribed, and would be
willing to send copies to someone somehow to add to an archive.
A few things:
1. I don't immediately know when I subscribed -- I have some old zips
on another computer -- I know they're there, I just have to find them.
2. At
On Thu, Feb 22 2001, at 07:39:28 -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:
> I've saved almost all of the list since I subscribed, and would be
> willing to send copies to someone somehow to add to an archive.
Thanks, I'm interested.
> A few things:
>
> 1. I don't immediately know when I subscribed -- I ha
Bjorn,
A few more things before I send the files:
> Netscape folders are normal mbox files, aren't they?
Yes, AFAIK, except:
1. There is an associated index file (.snm) which you can just ignore.
2. I collected these on Windows, so I suspect they will have a
where Linux expects just a .
Here is a link to an archive for this list.
http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:iis:1:28#b
-Original Message-
From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 10:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Assigning copyright
Since I can't locate th
David Johnson wrote:
> I now have in my possession a contributed piece of code with an emailed
> agreement to assign the copyright to me (since there is no umbrella
> organization to assign it to). The pragmatic part of me says that this is the
> legally sensible thing to do,
It was.
If the
Once again, I need to suggest that it is not appropriate to ask for (or
give) specific legal advice on an OSI public discussion list. No attorney
worth the paper on which his license is printed will give a specific answer
to a specific question in such a forum. And any answer you get from
non-la
Here's a question I thought I'd never have to ask.
What is a Copyleft?
The reason I ask this question relates to RMS's recent pronouncements about
Apple's psuedo-open license terms. He says, in part, that one of the flaws
of the license is that:
"It is not a true copyleft, because it allows li
There was an earlier posting asking about how copyrights are transferred.
The issue of copyright transfer is a very important one for open source
projects, but one that is often ignored. One important consideration is
that only the legal or beneficial owner of an exclusive right under a
copyrigh
It would be delightful if people could post sample documents for
the transfer of copyright.
Someone asked something about transfer of copyright to for-profit
companies. The idea is that some authors may be wary of transferring
their rights to a for-profit company, even though the software has be
Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>It would be delightful if people could post sample documents for
>the transfer of copyright.
>
>Someone asked something about transfer of copyright to for-profit
>companies. The idea is that some authors may be wary of transferring
>their rights to a for-
Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It would be delightful if people could post sample documents for
> the transfer of copyright.
Here is the template which the FSF uses for large changes. It has
presumably been validated by the FSF's lawyer. Use at your own risk.
Ian
Below is an assig
begin Ryan S. Dancey quotation:
> Here's a question I thought I'd never have to ask.
> What is a Copyleft?
Your underlying point is well-taken, and perceptive: RMS's recent usage
of the term indeed appears to depart from its prior (and customary)
meaning, in objecting to the ability to link to
Correct. Your quote from RMS didn't indicate whether he was referring to
static or dynamic linking, but since your example uses dynamic linking, I
assume that is what RMS meant as well. I do not read the copyleft in the
GNU GPL to preclude runtime linking to DLLs. Indeed, to read the copyleft
in t
"Ryan S. Dancey" wrote:
> Here's a question I thought I'd never have to ask.
>
> What is a Copyleft?
>
> The reason I ask this question relates to RMS's recent pronouncements about
> Apple's psuedo-open license terms. He says, in part, that one of the flaws
> of the license is that:
>
> "It is
Ryan S. Dancey wrote:
> If I write a copyleft free program for Windows, I should be able to load and
> link at runtime to any DLL in the system, regardless of whether or not that
> DLL is free code or not, shouldn't I? How else could a Windows program ever
> be written using the GPL?
By a spec
> From: Ryan S. Dancey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> If I write a copyleft free program for Windows, I should be able to load
> and
> link at runtime to any DLL in the system, regardless of whether or not
> that
> DLL is free code or not, shouldn't I? How else could a Windows program
> ever
>
From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dynamic linking with unfree libraries *not* distributed with the OS is a
> gray area in the GPL. When it was written, dynamic linking was a
> marginal concept. The FSF believes that linking with unfree dynamic
> libraries, except as mentioned above, is n
Ryan S. Dancey wrote:
> If I understand the internals of the situation correctly (which I may not),
> a program that binds to a DLL at runtime does so through the mediation of
> the OS. Data is packaged, handed to the OS, the OS moves it from the
> process making the call to the target process,
> From: "John Cowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Dynamic linking with unfree libraries *not* distributed with the OS is a
> > gray area in the GPL. When it was written, dynamic linking was a
> > marginal concept. The FSF believes that linking with unfree dynamic
> > libraries, except as mentioned
On Thursday 22 February 2001 09:58 am, Lawrence E. Rosen wrote:
> There was an earlier posting asking about how copyrights are transferred.
>
> The issue of copyright transfer is a very important one for open source
> projects, but one that is often ignored. One important consideration is
> that
On Thursday 22 February 2001 07:05 am, Brice, Richard wrote:
> Here is a link to an archive for this list.
>
> http://www.crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:iis:1:28#b
Thanks for the link. It took a bit of searching, but I found the thread back
in April.
--
David Johnson
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On Thursday 22 February 2001 02:16 pm, John Cowan wrote:
> No, DLLs are in the same address space as the main program. They are
> ordinary code that instead of being mapped at link time, is mapped at
> the beginning of run time. Calls to a routine in a DLL are essentially
> ordinary subroutine
Inadvertantly sent just to Mr. Dixon - my apologies to him for the double
post.
From: "Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ I said, in reference to various library linking examples:]
>> How can that create a derivative work?
>>
> Well, the question is why wouldn't it?
Because you're no
On Thursday 22 February 2001 10:37 pm, Ryan S. Dancey wrote:
> I'm suggesting that the definition of a derivative work can't include data
> being passed between two independent pieces of code, via file, via a
> network, or via an internal process communication. Making a function call
> is not th
"Ryan S. Dancey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> When you make a function call in compile-time linked code, you are
> creating a derivative work, because the function code itself will be
> compiled into the Program and inextricably combined with your code.
> When the two are separated by a run-time
From: "David Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Making a function call
> > is not the same thing as actually incorporating the code of that
function
> > into the body of the calling code.
>
> Though I'm on your "side", there is a big difference between data transfer
> and code execution. Transferri
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