Re: Python 2.2 license

2001-11-19 Thread John Cowan
Chris D. Sloan scripsit: > - US law says I have the right, but the license tries to take it > away. Which one wins? Nobody knows. Specifically, nobody knows because copyright is a federal matter, and it's not clear whether a contract (which is governed by state law) can derogate from a right

[OT] Spam

2001-11-19 Thread David Johnson
I was recently added to a Romanian homosexual mailing list against my wishes (no, don't laugh!). This was a yahoogoups group. Yahoo has subsequently ignored my requests for removal from that list. Tracing this problem down, it turns out that my name was obtained off of this very mailing list b

Re: Python 2.2 license

2001-11-19 Thread Chris D. Sloan
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:16:43AM -0500, John Cowan wrote: > As is well known, I think the "otherwise using" part of clause 8 > is mere flatus vocis: using software you lawfully own can't impose > any contract requirement on you. Can obtaining that copy impose restrictions on use, though? In ot

Re: OSD compliant shareware

2001-11-19 Thread David Johnson
On Monday 19 November 2001 05:05 am, David Woolley wrote: > David Johnson wrote: > > As long as I obey the law with regards to copyright, then it is > > impossible > > > for me to violate the GPL. Thus I am safe in not agreeing to it. > > That means that you never download the software > from a

Re: Please discuss the PSF license

2001-11-19 Thread John Cowan
Karsten M. Self wrote: > A narrow reading of the GPL might hold that conditioning acceptence of > licensing terms on use of a program is an incompatible additional > licensing condition. This raises concerns as earlier iterations of > Python licensing have similar language. Only if you believe

Python 2.2 license

2001-11-19 Thread John Cowan
I now think that Python 2.2 is GPL-compatible, based on a close reading of its terms. In particular, I think that only the first eight numbered paragraphs (the Python 2.2 license proper) are actually operative. The others are "dead code", so to speak, which must be carried along with the license

Re: QPL issue

2001-11-19 Thread Joachim Bauernberger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 19 November 2001 15:14, you wrote: > > I have been working on a software project which I intend to license under the > > QPL. I have decided to choose this type of license because I thought I could > > share my source with anybody interest

Re: QPL issue

2001-11-19 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
> I have been working on a software project which I intend to license under the > QPL. I have decided to choose this type of license because I thought I could > share my source with anybody interested in seeing it and also charge > non-commercial users such as ISP's, etc... with a fee to recover s

Re: Fails OSD #1. [Re: OSD compliant shareware]

2001-11-19 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Bruce wrote: > > I think it's possible to create any number of licenses that violate the > spirit of the OSD while following the letter. Well, I hope that statement is strong enough encouragement to the present board members to reject licenses on spirit. Bruce, did you read the discussion of t

Re: Please discuss the PSF license

2001-11-19 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
I think the FSF already evaluated this license on their page: http://www.fsf.org/licenses/license-list.html Under the section, "GPL-Compatible, Free-Software licenses" There is: The License of Python 2.0.1, 2.1.1, and newer versions. This is a free software license and is compat

Re: OSD compliant shareware

2001-11-19 Thread David Woolley
David Johnson wrote: > As long as I obey the law with regards to copyright, then it is impossible > for me to violate the GPL. Thus I am safe in not agreeing to it. That means that you never download the software from a distribution site, or copy it off borrowed media, and never redistribute

QPL issue

2001-11-19 Thread Joachim Bauernberger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am new to this list and have just looked in the archive to find some pointers to my problem. .However couldn't find much, therefore I am not sure if this is the correct list to discuss this. Please let me if it isn't so I can go away qu