Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Steve Lhomme
Item 16: I could be completely wrong here, but a) seems to effectively create a situation where patent holders would pay others for use of their own patents, while all third parties would be allowed to continue infringement - with the only alternative being to withdraw the claim. Is this

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
This is a very complicated license. Thanks for providing the remarks and annotations. Very nice. After a quick read, I think that it should not be OSI approved, for numerous reasons, some follow. Because the license is so complicated, it is not clear to me that addressing the following

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Steve Lhomme
Forrest J. Cavalier III wrote: This is a very complicated license. Thanks for providing the remarks and annotations. Very nice. Yeah. We tried to simplify as possible. But lawyer language is not common language. Anyway it seems that you found some bad ones. (none of Abe or me are lawyers

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Nathan Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OSI License Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Abe Kornelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Lhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Approval request for BXAPL Approval request snipped I have

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Abe Kornelis
- Original Message - From: Forrest J. Cavalier III [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Approval request for BXAPL This is a very complicated license. Thanks for providing the remarks and annotations. Very

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Steve Lhomme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, in part: A Contributor can be (or not) a Distributor. A Distributor can be (or not) a Contributor. That's what the definitions say. The definition (at General #2) is as follows, and is formatted thusly: Contributor: Any Distributor and/or

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
[Discussion of Paragraph 6] The even if such marks are included is a problem when you also require (in a separate paragraph) verbatim distribution of the software. I read that as when there is any trademark in the software, you are not permitted to distribute. -- In my opinion that

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
The definition of User is too broad. It allows any Distributor to force someone to be a User simply by sending them a copy. But does it arm any part of the license ? Or just a personal feeling ? 8.5 seems to have an effect for Users 15 may also. 16 also, but 16 is hard to follow.

Re: Approval request for BXAPL

2002-07-03 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
Also, as written, I think this definition includes compilers and linkers (and more! run-time ld? ) as Source code. ld is not a Source file. The BXAPL says Source Code is ... and any other files or members needed to create the executables required to properly execute the Software