Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-06 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other clauses. This is a popular misconception. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal-0006/msg00119.html This appears to be specific to the Apache license. Cf the FSF license discussion

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-06 Thread Rick Moen
begin David Johnson quotation: The work _as_a_whole_ must be under the GPL, but the individual components don't have to be so long as they fulfill the GPL's distribution requirements. That is correct. I was speaking of the combined work. (There are several key terms in the GNU GPL:

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-06 Thread David Johnson
On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, Rick Moen wrote: begin David Johnson quotation: The work _as_a_whole_ must be under the GPL, but the individual components don't have to be so long as they fulfill the GPL's distribution requirements. That is correct. I was speaking of the combined work. I

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it would have been impossible is that it would cause a huge number of Qt based applications, including major portions of KDE, be become illegal. With a GPL/Proprietary dual-license one has to either write a GPL application or pay

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
e- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:42 AM To: License-Discuss Subject: Re: Qt and the GPL On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:57:53PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Nelson Rush wrote: I mentioned the idea of triple licensing (o

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 11:34:31PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it would have been impossible is that it would cause a huge number of Qt based applications, including major portions of KDE, be become illegal. With a

RE: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Lou Grinzo
be a good idea, for some cases.) Lou -Original Message- From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; License-Discuss Subject: Re: Qt and the GPL On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason it would have been

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
No need to cc: me. I'm on the list. On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:39:34AM -0400, Lou Grinzo wrote: This latest exchange points out one of the most troubling aspects of software licensing--even many of the people who care about such issues and closely read the licenses can't always agree on

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BSD SW would convert to GPL, which is allowable if it doesn't contain the advertising clause. Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other clauses. This is a popular misconception.

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Paul Crowley
David Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Considering a GPL-compatible v2 of the QPL wasn't good enough. Eh? Who would not have been satisfied with a genuinely GPL-compatible QPL? -- __ \/ o\ Employ me! Cryptology, security, Perl, Linux, TCP/IP, and smarts. /\__/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. BSD, MIT, Artistic, and LGPL are all convertible to GPL. You'd leave out those people who were using these licenses to interoperate with software licensed under non-GPL terms as a single work. Hmmm, this isn't how I understand it.

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread Rick Moen
begin David Johnson quotation: Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts to the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be distributed under the BSD license? A licence adheres to a particular _copy_ of a copyrighted work. Take a third party's

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, Rick Moen wrote: begin David Johnson quotation: Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts to the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be distributed under the BSD license? A licence adheres to a particular _copy_

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread David Johnson
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000, John Cowan wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, David Johnson wrote: Okay, followup question. If a BSD application automatically converts to the GPL by linking to a GPL library, can the application still be distributed under the BSD license? The application without the

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-05 Thread kmself
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 03:54:49PM -0700, Brian Behlendorf ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 5 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The BSD SW would convert to GPL, which is allowable if it doesn't contain the advertising clause. Not according to Stallman, there are issues with other

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread kmself
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 03:35:22PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there will be separate versions (and I hope there won't), then this will be the first time (that I am aware of) that a GPLd library will be available with an identical

Re: Qt and the GPL

2000-09-04 Thread kmself
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:57:53PM -0700, David Johnson wrote: On Mon, 04 Sep 2000, Nelson Rush wrote: I mentioned the idea of triple licensing (or dual licensing) qt in this way in June to Trolltech. They told me where I could stick it then and it looks like they've reconsidered it now.