Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Ian Stirling
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 21:39:23 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 02:03 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > As a composer by myself, it's a mystery to me why so many composers > > love to use 128th and 256th, most time for no good reason. > > Let's ask ourselves about that wel

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 7, 2007 7:03 PM, Werner LEMBERG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please, please just don't get rid of the *beamed* 128ths and 256ths; > > I use them both all the time. > > This is something you should get punished for :-) > :-D -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 02:03 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > As a composer by myself, it's a mystery to me why so many composers > love to use 128th and 256th, most time for no good reason. Let's ask ourselves about that well-known piano hack, Ludwig van Beethoven. Later we'll turn to Mozart, who d

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Please, please just don't get rid of the *beamed* 128ths and 256ths; > I use them both all the time. This is something you should get punished for :-) A longer time ago we performed the excellent opera `Luci mie traditrici' from Salvatore Sciarrino which uses 32nd-tuplets all the time. The sc

input/lsr/ in out-ww/offline-root

2007-11-07 Thread Graham Percival
Ok, I feel quite silly about this. How do we copy stuff into out-www/offline-root ? In GDP, we have a new directory input/lsr/pitches/ (replacing the old input/lsr/pitch ) when I build the docs, I get out-www/collated-files.html in that directory with no problems. But the entire dir fails t

Re: problem translating documentation in lilypond/translation

2007-11-07 Thread Graham Percival
Till Rettig wrote: ./introduction.texi:1099: ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produce d! Transcript written on lilypond-learning.log. /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: pdfetex exited with bad status, quitting. make[3]: *** [out-www/lilypond-learning.pdf] Error 1 I didn't spend too mu

problem translating documentation in lilypond/translation

2007-11-07 Thread Till Rettig
Hello, I get this error when making web on lilypond/translation branch: ./introduction.texi:1099: pdfTeX error (ext4): \pdfendlink ended up in differen t nesting level than \pdfstartlink. \onepageout ...\ewbot \hfil \ewbot }}\egroup \fi } }\advan

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Trevor Bača
On Nov 7, 2007 8:48 AM, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Knoop wrote: > > This talk of 'reconsidering your notation' and 'reasonable shortest > > notes' is rather disturbing. Clearly, composers *do* use 128th (and > > shorter) notes, both beamed and unbeamed: therefore lilypond

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, 128th notes are specifically supported also in Braille Music although the support is a bit clumsy and seems like an afterthought as it is represented differently from other durations. Regards, Ralph - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is a

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Graham Percival
Mark Knoop wrote: This talk of 'reconsidering your notation' and 'reasonable shortest notes' is rather disturbing. Clearly, composers *do* use 128th (and shorter) notes, both beamed and unbeamed: therefore lilypond *should* support them. The musical notation should be chosen by the composer, no

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Rune Zedeler
Reinhold Kainhofer skrev: Notes with n flags can always be composed by stacking more single flags on top of each other, there does not necessarily have to be a glyph in the font for this, right? Hmm. This definitely does not hold for rests. And we should imo allow for the same durations for r

Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Mark Knoop
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> For unbeamed notes, we have to draw the line somewhere, and >> it's at 64th right now. If someone can show a reasonable use >> for 128th we >> *might* consider it, but my initial reac

RE: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond

2007-11-07 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
> -Original Message- > From: Han-Wen Nienhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:05 AM > To: Graham Percival > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lilypond-devel@gnu.org > Subject: Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond > > >

Ferneyhough (Re: GPD: official shortest note in lilypond)

2007-11-07 Thread Mark Knoop
Paco Vila wrote: > If anybody has an edition of Beethoven's Sonata nº8 Op.13 Pathétique > for piano, on measure 10 of the first movement (grave) there are some > very, very short notes, guess what are they? 128th notes. > > see http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=299 Ah, but th