Graham Percival writes:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 02:05:44PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
>> - plain email-based patch submission using a benevolent dictator,
>> ie, use git the way it was designed and is still used by the
>> creators (linux, git).
>
> Are you volunteering to be that benevo
Hans Aberg writes:
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
>
>>> The section originates with me but I got diverted into trying to
>>> create a more elegant solution for how to rewrite accidentals in
>>> transposed music. It was all related to the need for an effective
>>> chromatic transp
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 02:05:44PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> - plain email-based patch submission using a benevolent dictator,
> ie, use git the way it was designed and is still used by the
> creators (linux, git).
Are you volunteering to be that benevolent dictator? Spend, say,
15 ho
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 03:12:27PM +0200, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
> On 26/09/13 14:52, Phil Holmes wrote:
> >"We've had bad experiences where a helpful and enthusiastic new
> >contributor misunderstood the instructions, ran off and did 5 hours of
> >work instead of 10 minutes, and none of th
2013/9/27 Janek Warchoł :
> 2013/9/26 Colin Campbell :
>> Well, I'm unskilled and uneducated in most areas useful to development and
>> change management, but I'm offering to help in whatever way you think I can.
>
> Excellent! We'll probably start by creating some test repositories on
> gitorious
2013/9/26 Colin Campbell :
> On 13-09-26 03:48 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> after a long discussion i think it's time to gradually move towards
>> doing things :-)
>>
>> David is going to talk with Savannah people - that's great!
>> Other things that are worth looking at are:
>> - g
Hi,
2013/9/26 Hans Aberg :
> On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> Joseph Wakeling wrote:
>> I was also rather discouraged by the fact that the quarter-tone arrow
>> notation issue didn't find a solution -- see:
>>> https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1278
>>>
>>
>> I t
On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> The section originates with me but I got diverted into trying to create a
>> more elegant solution for how to rewrite accidentals in transposed music. It
>> was all related to the need for an effective chromatic transposition
>> solution that als
On 13-09-26 03:48 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote:
Hi all,
after a long discussion i think it's time to gradually move towards
doing things :-)
David is going to talk with Savannah people - that's great!
Other things that are worth looking at are:
- gitorious
- gerrit
- something else i've forgotten?
On 26 Sep 2013, at 17:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
>> On 26/09/13 16:37, Trevor Daniels wrote:
>>> Almost exactly what I was about to reply, but Phil beat me to it! In fact I
>>> think I remember helping you add the Contemporary music headings some
>>> time ago, or was it someone else?
>>
>> The sect
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
> On 26/09/13 17:35, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
>> Unfortunately, it was someone putting forward a workaround which I'd already
>> proposed and found lacking, as it doesn't play nice with transposition :-(
>>
>> There was actually a patch submitted which tweake
On 26/09/13 17:35, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote:
Unfortunately, it was someone putting forward a workaround which I'd already
proposed and found lacking, as it doesn't play nice with transposition :-(
There was actually a patch submitted which tweaked the internal pitch
representation appropria
On 26/09/13 17:16, Phil Holmes wrote:
I think it's waiting for someone to propose how it could be represented in
LilyPond. If _someone_ were to do that, it might progress - it was only a few
months ago it was last looked at.
Unfortunately, it was someone putting forward a workaround which I'd
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Rushton Wakeling"
To: "Trevor Daniels" ; "Phil Holmes"
; "David Kastrup"
Cc: "LilyPond Development Team"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: improving our contributing tools and workflow
On 26/09/13 16:37, Trevor Daniels wrote:
On 26/09/13 16:37, Trevor Daniels wrote:
Almost exactly what I was about to reply, but Phil beat me to it! In fact I
think I remember helping you add the Contemporary music headings some
time ago, or was it someone else?
The section originates with me but I got diverted into trying to create a
Thomas Morley writes:
> 2013/9/26 :
>> LGTM
>>
>> https://codereview.appspot.com/13904043/
>
> Let me add:
> I started custom-scheme-coding with LilyPond 2.12.3 and found it
> _very_ difficult to modify music-arguments those days, whereas
> affecting grobs was quite easy.
Well, music objects ar
Phil Holmes wrote Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:11 PM
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joseph Rushton Wakeling"
>
>> On 26/09/13 15:04, David Kastrup wrote:
>>> How many substantial patches would you expect yourself to be
>>> contributing in the wake of such a move per month to LilyPo
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Rushton Wakeling"
To: "David Kastrup"
Cc: "Jan Nieuwenhuizen" ; "Janek Warchoł"
; "LilyPond Development Team"
; "Phil Holmes" ; "Graham
Percival"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: improving our contributing tools and workflow
On 26/09/13 15:23, David Kastrup wrote:
Well, you think that it's better to demoralize existing developers
rather than hypothetical would-be contributors nobody knows.
This is going to be a toxic direction of discussion if we pursue it, so I won't
respond, except to say that it is not my inten
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
> Now, I'm not assuming that no one has ever done this. I rather
> imagine it's been tried and that the resulting workload (probably
> mostly Graham's) has been overwhelming and that in fact there is no
> guarantee that it pays off in terms of another long-term co
On 26/09/13 15:04, David Kastrup wrote:
How many substantial patches would you expect yourself to be
contributing in the wake of such a move per month to LilyPond?
Don't know. Most of my potential contributions to Lilypond are likely to be
documentation -- among other things I'd like to revis
Hi David,
lilypond has a header field "piece", which is meant for movement names. To have
this field centered - default is left above the score - one has to modify
scoreTitleMarkup in paper. Perhaps other markups would be nice. (a markup is a
template by itself, because it gets its title/copose
On 26/09/13 14:52, Phil Holmes wrote:
I thought I made this clear - I was repeating something Graham said to me on a
number of occasions. He would argue it was realistic, not pessimistic. You have
to be aware of the fact that, simply by working hard on a problem does not
guarantee that the effor
Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes:
> There may be another side to this. Post-GitHub there has been a
> pretty substantial increase in the user-friendliness of DVCS. What's
> currently advocated in the Contributors' Guide stands in stark
> contrast to the ease of contribution (and contribution mana
2013/9/26 :
> On 2013/09/26 10:51:34, janek wrote:
>> Uh, David, thanks for this explanation, but i'm afraid it was not
>> needed. If the code doesn't need a comment, just say so.
>>
>> Now, speaking in general: i don't understand that when Mike submits a
>> patch, you often complain that it's no
- Original Message -
From: "Janek Warchoł"
To: "Phil Holmes"
Cc: "LilyPond Development Team" ; "David Kastrup"
; "Joseph Wakeling" ; "Graham
Percival"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: improving our contributing tools and workflow
Hi,
to make things clear:
On 26/09/13 11:48, Janek Warchoł wrote:
David is going to talk with Savannah people - that's great!
Other things that are worth looking at are:
- gitorious
- gerrit
- something else i've forgotten?
GitLab: http://gitlab.org/
Looks more feature-complete and user-friendly than Gitorious (it's go
On 26/09/13 13:56, Phil Holmes wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Google Code could be changed. I find its restriction
on attachments annoying. However, a replacement would have to be able to import
_all_ the issues lodged there with all their detail and attachments, and provide
similar facilities
On 26/09/13 14:26, David Kastrup wrote:
So Graham organized the infrastructure where this would not easily
happen again in the same manner, and the Contributor's Guide reflects
it.
But we haven't exactly seen a flurry of patches from newcomers appearing
on the lists. Of course, part of the reas
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:
> Janek Warchoł writes:
>
>> Other things that are worth looking at are:
>> - gitorious
>> - gerrit
>> - something else i've forgotten?
>
> You may want to study
>
> - plain email-based patch submission using a benevolent dictator,
> ie, use git the way it was designed
On 2013/09/26 10:51:34, janek wrote:
> It does not belong in the code. It might belong in the issue
tracker,
> perhaps in the commit message. Just as a record of what went wrong.
> But the code, as it is written, does not offer a temptation of
changing
> it back to the buggy previous versi
Hi,
to make things clear: i do not intend to attack anyone personally, or
imply that anyone has bad will or malicious intentions. I only want
to explain how the situation looks like from my point of view.
2013/9/26 Phil Holmes :
> Janek wrote:
>>2013/9/26 Phil Holmes :
>> > Good luck. Let me gi
Janek Warchoł writes:
> Other things that are worth looking at are:
> - gitorious
> - gerrit
> - something else i've forgotten?
You may want to study
- plain email-based patch submission using a benevolent dictator,
ie, use git the way it was designed and is still used by the
creators (linux
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Rushton Wakeling"
To: "David Kastrup" ; "Janek Warchoł"
Cc: "Phil Holmes" ; "LilyPond Development Team"
; "Graham Percival"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: improving our contributing tools and workflow
On 26/09/13 12:26,
On 26/09/13 12:26, David Kastrup wrote:
The dean is annoyed: "Why can't you be like the mathematicians? They
just need pencils, paper, and a wastebasket and will work for years.
And the philosophers don't even need a wastebasket..."
Not any more, either for mathematicians or philosophers ... :
2013/9/25 :
>
>> > On 2013/09/24 07:44:44, janek wrote:
>> >> Hmm. From my point of view, this deserves some comment
>> >> (but i don't insist).
>
> Well, multiple matching regexps are messy and might call for an
> appropriate comment. But the whole point of the change is not to have
> multiple m
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/9/26 Phil Holmes :
>> - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł"
>>
>>> In a truly Grahamic spirit, i'm going to focus on this issue and not
>>> participate in anything else on the mailing list until we're done
>>> (with the exception of Tie Crusade which i ho
- Original Message -
From: "Janek Warchoł"
To: "Phil Holmes"
Cc: "LilyPond Development Team" ; "David Kastrup"
; "Joseph Wakeling" ; "Graham
Percival"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: improving our contributing tools and workflow
>
> Good luck. Let me give
2013/9/26 Phil Holmes :
> - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł"
>
>> after a long discussion i think it's time to gradually move towards
>> doing things :-)
>>
>> David is going to talk with Savannah people - that's great!
>> Other things that are worth looking at are:
>> - gitorious
- Original Message -
From: "Janek Warchoł"
To: "LilyPond Development Team" ; "David Kastrup"
; "Joseph Wakeling" ; "Phil
Holmes" ; "Graham Percival"
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:48 AM
Subject: improving our contributing tools and workflow
Hi all,
after a long discussion i
Hi all,
after a long discussion i think it's time to gradually move towards
doing things :-)
David is going to talk with Savannah people - that's great!
Other things that are worth looking at are:
- gitorious
- gerrit
- something else i've forgotten?
I'm going to have a short break from LilyPond
Hi David,
Am 26.09.2013 10:08, schrieb David Kastrup:
Well, there is movement in there, where we'll explore the technical
tools that Savannah might provide us with and see where we might want to
take our infrastructure based on that. I suppose it's more efficient to
stall discussion until we a
Hi Janek,
Am 26.09.2013 09:53, schrieb Janek Warchoł:
You mean it would be nice to add a few predefined header styles to
choose from? I agree, and i have something that i could share,
me too ;)
but i'd like to first sort out our contribution policies (the "github
discussion").
yes ... I do u
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/9/25 Jan-Peter Voigt :
>> Hi David,
>> lilypond has a header field "piece", which is meant for movement names. To
>> have this field centered - default is left above the score - one has to
>> modify scoreTitleMarkup in paper.
>> Perhaps other markups would be nice. (a
2013/9/25 Jan-Peter Voigt :
> Hi David,
> lilypond has a header field "piece", which is meant for movement names. To
> have this field centered - default is left above the score - one has to
> modify scoreTitleMarkup in paper.
> Perhaps other markups would be nice. (a markup is a template by itself
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