Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 04/23/2014 07:00 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: [...] They all show this artifact of rounded interior corners. I promise I'm not just making this up. They come from the punch manufacturing process AND the engraving process AND printing process. I think it would be quite nice to incorporate th

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread Urs Liska
Am 24.04.2014 01:00, schrieb tisimst: All, Thanks for your help, thoughts, and encouragement. Here's an example score using Cadence. It's a little crowded since I only have the 20pt version so far (which is actually shown at 19pt in this score to help all the elements fit on a single page). More

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
All, Thanks for your help, thoughts, and encouragement. Here's an example score using Cadence. It's a little crowded since I only have the 20pt version so far (which is actually shown at 19pt in this score to help all the elements fit on a single page). More to come, though! Regards, Abraham NÁL

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Han-Wen Nienhuys-5 wrote > As for the missing characters: my recollection is faded, but I think > we do some special fiddling to select emmentaler for the alphabetic > chars. Is your tweaked font also called emmentaler? Han-Wen, I thought more about what you said, which caused me to investigate G

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Werner LEMBERG wrote > we would need to set up another font instance for posters and the > like, without any edge smoothing... I still think that a > postprocessor is the way to go. Don't get me wrong, the global post-processing would be very cool if someone's willing to figure out how to do it,

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Is it? I'm not sure whether changing the font outlines this way is >> beneficial, especially since the effect Abraham is envisioning is >> definitely bound to the printing resolution. > > Isn't that the point of using optically scaled fonts in LilyPond? Yes, but... > I fully intend to have t

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Han-Wen Nienhuys-5 wrote > Thanks for bringing this up! You are completely right; we never > considered the inside corners, and did the outside corners on the > assumption that they are fragile and would become rounded through the > violence of punching. Werner is right that you'd have to do a glob

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Werner LEMBERG wrote > Is it? I'm not sure whether changing the font outlines this way is > beneficial, especially since the effect Abraham is envisioning is > definitely bound to the printing resolution. Werner, Isn't that the point of using optically scaled fonts in LilyPond? I fully intend to

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Werner is right that you'd have to do a global postprocessing pass > to really do all all the line intersections, but rounding inside > corners in the font is a reasonable first approximation. Is it? I'm not sure whether changing the font outlines this way is beneficial, especially since the e

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:02 PM, tisimst wrote: > Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote >> ... It seems that you're spot-on with respect to the eight rest >> inner corner! However, it seems to me that the added roundings in the >> G-clef are overdone? > > Indeed, the amount of roundness is debatable. What's fu

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote > ... It seems that you're spot-on with respect to the eight rest > inner corner! However, it seems to me that the added roundings in the > G-clef are overdone? Indeed, the amount of roundness is debatable. What's funny about this is that I didn't actually create the round

Re: Question about customizing emmentaler font

2014-04-23 Thread tisimst
Werner LEMBERG wrote > Especially this example > > > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/161770/2/barenreiter-examples.png > > shows very well that what you want to achieve is not related to the > font itself: It's definitely one level `later', so to say: The round > edges, which c

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2014-04-23 Thread James
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