Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/8/11 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org: An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16:   f2     f8  e8       g8        c8  fin -- chè l'a -- ria è an -- cor Almost all singers I've met during my work as a coach have problems if they sing it the first

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-11 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 11/08/2011 13:16, Francisco Vila disait : 2011/8/11 Werner LEMBERGw...@gnu.org: An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16: f2 f8 e8 g8c8 fin -- chè l'a -- ria è an -- cor Almost all singers I've met during my work as a coach

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-11 Thread bordage . bertrand
I forgot these cases (o~è~in; a~è~in; o~è~an...). They are often elided (quest'in instead of questa~è~in) by editors and composers. So your view is that lyric ties are not used in the real world? I still feel them as a pedagogy resource for young musicians or something. Or maybe old scores

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
No lyric ties either... So your view is that lyric ties are not used in the real world? No. I simply can't discuss how lyric ties should look like since I haven't seen real-world examples in the scores I've used up to now. It seems that German engraving for classical music can live without

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/8/9 lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com: I'd make the tie slightly shorter.  I find it awkward that two adjacent ties collide so easily, for example here {  \time 3/4  \relative c' { c2 e4 g2 e4 }  \addlyrics { gran- de_a- mi- go }  \addlyrics { pu- ro y ho- nes- to }  \addlyrics { pu-

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread bordage . bertrand
Secondly, it does not follow the policy for syllable separator, which is '[space]--[space]', not '-[space]'. I already fixed it in this patch (for every language). Finally, 2nd and 3rd stanzas look _very_ improbable to me in that it has three syllables on a single note, which requires two

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2011, 19:54:52 schrieb bordage.bertr...@gmail.com: Finally, 2nd and 3rd stanzas look _very_ improbable to me in that it has three syllables on a single note, which requires two lyric ties. o~y is a synalepha and it could be a in-word diphthong, y~ho is another

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I can't find it now, but I definitely remember having seen three syllables in a soprano aria (I think it was Italian). It was something like -- to e in. An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16: f2 f8 e8 g8c8 fin -- chè l'a --

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16: f2 f8 e8 g8c8 fin -- chè l'a -- ria è an -- cor BTW, the next bar is a8[ d8] f8 g,8[ b8] d8 bru -- na, e il mon -- do :-) Werner

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/8/10 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org: An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16:    f2     f8  e8       g8        c8   fin -- chè l'a -- ria è an -- cor BTW, the next bar is  a8[ d8]     f8     g,8[ b8] d8  bru --  na, e il mon --   do :-)

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-10 Thread Werner LEMBERG
An example is the second aria of Susanna in Mozart's `Le Nozze di Figaro', bar 16:   f2     f8  e8       g8        c8  fin -- chè l'a -- ria è an -- cor Almost all singers I've met during my work as a coach have problems if they sing it the first time :-) That makes four vowels!

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-08 Thread bordage . bertrand
Changes done. Passes make, regtest comparison and make doc. Bertrand http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-08 Thread pkx166h
Passes make and reg tests http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-08 Thread lemniskata . bernoullego
I'd make the tie slightly shorter. I find it awkward that two adjacent ties collide so easily, for example here { \time 3/4 \relative c' { c2 e4 g2 e4 } \addlyrics { gran- de_a- mi- go } \addlyrics { pu- ro y ho- nes- to } \addlyrics { pu- ro~y~ho- nes- to } } (example from

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-07 Thread pkx166h
a 'while you're there' nitpick. http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/diff/18/Documentation/notation/vocal.itely File Documentation/notation/vocal.itely (right): http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/diff/18/Documentation/notation/vocal.itely#newcode612 Documentation/notation/vocal.itely:612:

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-07 Thread lemniskata . bernoullego
I've created tracker issue: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1807 Could you upload some pngs showing before/after output? It would be helpful for those who cannot build the patch themselves. http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/

Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-06 Thread bordage . bertrand
Reviewers: , Message: Better handling of lyric ties: * The space between two tied words is no more fixed. Its value is word-space. The default space is therefore decreased. * New glyph, so that we won't need an external font. * Increased vertical space between words and tie. It is therefore now

Re: Adds a glyph for tied lyrics. (issue4808074)

2011-08-06 Thread lemzwerg
Please use tabs in MF files. Besides that, everythings looks fine. http://codereview.appspot.com/4808074/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel