Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2018/02/08 08:59:02, dak wrote: Wouldn't it rather be \jump ? The whole point of repeat constructs being that they do something different every time (or we'll never end anyway). Mmm... I'll have to think about that. That relates to something else that I've wished for (and worked on),

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2018/02/08 03:12:35, dan_faithful.be wrote: For convenience, I would like to predefine the label 'capo at the start of iteration. I changed my mind on this overnight. That would make it difficult for the user to use markup at the beginning. https://codereview.appspot.com/337520043/

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Dan Eble writes: > On Feb 6, 2018, at 20:44, nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Reviewers: , >> >> Message: >> I would be happy to hear suggestions for the name of this command. > > Esteemed LilyPond developers, > > Thank you for the voluminous feedback. It is

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On Feb 6, 2018, at 20:44, nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com wrote: > > Reviewers: , > > Message: > I would be happy to hear suggestions for the name of this command. Esteemed LilyPond developers, Thank you for the voluminous feedback. It is encouraging to hear that a solution using unique IDs

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 07.02.2018 10:37, Torsten Hämmerle wrote: So why not using something like *\repeatMark*, *\markRepeat* or *\markRepetition*, ...? Seen that way, even \repeatMark "Fine" feels natural to me, because - like an ordinary RehearsalMark, or a MetronomeMark, it's just a new kind of Mark, which is,

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> If we want to capture semantics properly, I believe we need to >>> recognize that there are three different kinds of marks: >>> >>> 1) "jump-from" marks (D.S. al ..., D.C. al ..., To Coda) >>> 2) "jump-to" marks (Segno, beginning of piece, coda) >>> 3)

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

>> If we want to capture semantics properly, I believe we need to >> recognize that there are three different kinds of marks: >> >> 1) "jump-from" marks (D.S. al ..., D.C. al ..., To Coda) >> 2) "jump-to" marks (Segno, beginning of piece, coda) >> 3) "stop playing" marks (Fine, end of piece) [...]

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Carl Sorensen writes: > For me, it's not the Italian part, it's the "musical" part, that is, > what do I see when I read the music. The fact that it is Italian is > secondary. That being said, the \fine command is a bit weird, because > it could be confused with the English

Re[2]: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Hi Carl I can't resist adding my tuppence-worth :) You wrote 07/02/2018 15:18:55 If we want to capture semantics properly, I believe we need to recognize that there are three different kinds of marks: 1) "jump-from" marks (D.S. al ..., D.C. al ..., To Coda) 2) "jump-to" marks (Segno,

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2/7/18, 9:05 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote: Carl Sorensen writes: > On 2/7/18, 2:37 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of Torsten Hämmerle" wrote: > >

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Carl Sorensen writes: > On 2/7/18, 2:37 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of Torsten Hämmerle" > torsten.haemme...@web.de> wrote: > > > If there will probably even be a MIDI playback in the future, we

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2/7/18, 8:55 AM, "Kieren MacMillan" wrote: Hi Carl, Of all suggestions so far, I most like your flow/Flow the most. > If we want to capture semantics properly, I believe we need to recognize that there are three different kinds of

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Hi Carl, Of all suggestions so far, I most like your flow/Flow the most. > If we want to capture semantics properly, I believe we need to recognize that > there are three different kinds of marks: > 1) "jump-from" marks (D.S. al ..., D.C. al ..., To Coda) > 2) "jump-to" marks (Segno, beginning

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2/7/18, 2:37 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of Torsten Hämmerle" wrote: If there will probably even be a MIDI playback in the future, we actually need "real" marks to jump to, not only text

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

(new here because gmane is dud) This is a signpost at a fork in the road. I propose ForkMark This concerns junctions where you can diverge off the one-way main road. I don't experience merging junctions, e.g. Segno, as forks. So saying DivergeMark would be unneccessarily explict - unless

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

How about \flow and FlowScript? Carl Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

\location or \place, with LocationMark or PlaceMark to match? \location sounds excellent. https://codereview.appspot.com/337520043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On 2018/02/07 06:34:32, lemzwerg wrote: Very nice idea! > On the other hand, \goTo seems unlikely to resemble whatever > we settle on for the grob name… unless everyone likes GoToScript. What about \jumpTo? Note that I like \goTo also, and I don't mind if the low-level stuff uses

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Hello all, Admittedly, something like "goto" or "jump" seemed obvious to me, too. In more musical terms, however, we're talking about "repeated sections". As opposed to repeat bars, there are textual instructions involved, and there are, sort of, "marks" involved, too: capo, fine, segno, etc.

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

https://codereview.appspot.com/337520043/diff/1/input/regression/departure-mark-instrumental.ly File input/regression/departure-mark-instrumental.ly (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/337520043/diff/1/input/regression/departure-mark-instrumental.ly#newcode4

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Very nice idea! On the other hand, \goTo seems unlikely to resemble whatever we settle on for the grob name… unless everyone likes GoToScript. What about \jumpTo? Note that I like \goTo also, and I don't mind if the low-level stuff uses `depart' in its name.

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

On Feb 6, 2018, at 21:12, Simon Albrecht wrote: > > Brainstorming (NB, only brainstorming) on the name: > > Normal rehearsal marks refer to the beginning of a section, while these refer > to the end of a section, so an input command might be \endMark "D.S.". You >

Re: Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Brainstorming (NB, only brainstorming) on the name: Normal rehearsal marks refer to the beginning of a section, while these refer to the end of a section, so an input command might be \endMark "D.S.". You still have to complete it to ‘end-of-section mark’ in your head, but \depart seems far

Issue 5272: Add \depart (issue 337520043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

Reviewers: , Message: I would be happy to hear suggestions for the name of this command. My opinion is that \depart is a reasonable name when used for the likes of D.C., D.S., and "2nd time to Coda" but \depart "Fine" is slightly weird (departing to nowhere?). Description: