2008/8/11 Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thanks, I applied all your suggestions.
Thank you, Graham, I've been very disconnected and missed this.
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Jonathan Kulp wrote Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:50 AM
I had a similar problem with an example I was working on for GDP
Rhythms, in Notation Reference 1.2.6.2. If you look at that example,
you can see that there's a whole series of 8ths that ought to be
autobeamed but are not. I couldn't
Trevor Daniels wrote:
I would use your first solution, Jonathan, and simply
insert a \stemDown:
Why not a \oneVoice, which gives the same result but lets LilyPond
automatically determine
the stem direction. Perhaps even better: don't use the \\ but explicitly
instantiate one of the voices
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:42 AM
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:31:16 +0100
Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John, you wrote Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:53 PM
IMNSHO we *must* discuss absolute vs. relative pitches with usage
cases in the Learning Manual.
I agree
Graham Percival wrote Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:28 AM
We now have a good documentation team for lilypond, and a good
number of them are gradually moving into bugfixing and
programming. The thing we lack -- one of the last unhealthy
portions of the lilypond project -- is an email support
There you go - it still happens - another red face!
Thanks, Mats ;)
- Original Message -
From: Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James E. Bailey
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Robin Bannister wrote:
Robin Bannister wrote
A: 21 hits for \context Staff
B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff
I think I get it now. It must be that \context is overloaded, does
two quite different things. Upon meeting a \context you must
categorise it as A or B.
The uninitiated attach
Maarten Deen wrote:
But lilypond puts the title at the top and the 12 lines of music at the
bottom
of the page, leaving a large open space inbetween, see attached picture.
Why is this? Is there a way of alining the music to the top?
Maarten,
Try adding ragged-bottom = ##t to your
Graham Percival wrote:
convert-ly would translate \old-command to \new-command. Or at
least print a warning about \old-command now means foo. And
we'll dump a warning about this in NEWS.
Also, for the people that have (mis-)used \center-align for a single
markup, they
won't even notice
2008/8/11 Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unfortunately I can't reach the link anymore! I would like to add the
example to the documentation of percussion instruments!
Yes, we're experiencing major problems with the LSR. However, this
snippet should be available using
2008/8/14 Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Also, for the people that have (mis-)used \center-align for a single markup,
they
won't even notice the change, since it produces the same output in that
case, even
though they will have an unnecessary pair of curly braces in their code
after the
I'm trying to make a clear example for the GDP docs.
According to my understanding, Forbid_line_break engraver should eliminate
line breaks at measures where there is a tie generated by the
Completion_heads_engraver.
In the code below, I can't change where the line break is by including or
Carl
I don't believe tied notes over a bar line inhibit
line breaks, whether they are inserted manually or
by the Completion_heads_engraver, even when the
Forbid-line-break-engraver is present (as it is by
default.)
Trevor
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From: Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Valentin,
but how can I open this file? Where do I find it?
I don't have the source-code of the documentation and I don't know how to
compile it.
2008/8/14 Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2008/8/11 Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
unfortunately I can't reach the link anymore! I
It seems that things have changed in the 2.11.x releases. It used to be
that the
line breaking was determined before the note splitting, or at least
that the line breaking
algorithm didn't consider the split note as two separate notes. So, if
you try your example
with version 2.10.33, you will
www.lilypond.org - Documentation for 2.11 - Snippet List - Percussion
- Percussion Beaters
(or SL Percussion according to Graham naming).
/Mats
Stefan Thomas wrote:
Dear Valentin,
but how can I open this file? Where do I find it?
I don't have the source-code of the documentation and I don't
2008/8/14 Stefan Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
but how can I open this file? Where do I find it?
I don't have the source-code of the documentation and I don't know how to
compile it.
Oh, I forgot you weren't using the source code... As Mats said, the
snippet is already in the percu-related
Stefan,
This is a complete non-issue. The example will be added to the
docs after you send me your next update, and this example has
*been* ready for a week. You're not supposed to discuss examples
like this in the .itely file anyway.
Work on the issues I told you to work on, and send me the
Dear Lilypondusers,
how can I switch on textLentgthOn for more than one word?
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Mats Bengtsson wrote:
Why not a \oneVoice, which gives the same result but lets LilyPond
automatically determine
the stem direction.
This works perfectly. Thanks!
Perhaps even better: don't use the \\ but explicitly
instantiate one of the voices
(related to a recent email discussion).
Since the predefined macro \textLengthOn uses \override and not \once
\override,
the setting will apply for all following notes in the same Voice context.
/Mats
Stefan Thomas wrote:
Dear Lilypondusers,
how can I switch on textLentgthOn for more than one word?
If you really need to insert dozens of musical examples, then I would
suggest the following:
1. as LilyPond is already downloaded and installed, the first step is right
2. if you don't have Java installed, install it from http://www.java.com
3. install jEdit:
Graham Percival wrote:
[1] Personally, I'd go for the Fuzziness Force, devoted to
making confused people feel warm and fuzzy. But I suspect that
other people aren't as fond of fuzzy things as I am... and
besides, people would start calling you the FF or FFers, and
this whole thing started with
Carl Sorensen wrote:
If you'd like to propose additions to the docs, we'd appreciate it if
you'd tell us where the addition should go.
Also, in a case like this, a simple example that shows the behavior
being described can help understand possibly-confusing wording.
If you could work up a
Hi Maarten,
I think it is standard behaviour.
I remember there was a command to let LilyPond display all the spaces
it uses and its names. But I don´t remember the command and couldn´t
find it by searching ...
Dominic
2008/8/13 SPAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm transcribing a piece for six brass
If you don´t want the wide gap, add
ragged-bottom = ##t
to your paper section.
Dominic
2008/8/14 Dominic Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Maarten,
I think it is standard behaviour.
I remember there was a command to let LilyPond display all the spaces
it uses and its names. But I don´t
Dominic Neumann wrote:
I think it is standard behaviour.
I remember there was a command to let LilyPond display all the spaces
it uses and its names. But I don´t remember the command and couldn´t
find it by searching ...
Take a look at Notation Reference 4.6.1: Displaying spacing.
-Chris
Am 14.08.2008 um 13:58 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
Perhaps even better: don't use the \\ but explicitly
instantiate one of the voices
(related to a recent email discussion).
When I removed the \\, I got errors about clashing columns. I'll
check into the explicit voice instantiation thing. For
Hello.
For automatic adjustment of vertical spacing, you could also try what
is explained here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Two_002dpass-vertical-spacing#Two_002dpass-vertical-spacing
Best,
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Hey Graham (et al.):
I'm back out of my rabbit hole for a while... =)
What can I do to help the docs project? At one point, we were talking
about me doing some large scale, real world examples — putting
together a real tutorial on chord name changes, revamping the
examples on
On 8/14/08 7:25 AM, Chris Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here ya go. This is for section 1.8.1.1. I'd recommend that it be placed
between the current \textLengthOn example and the Predefined commands
header.
Chris, thanks for the specific location recommendation. This makes it
easy for
Thanks, Mats. That's the confirmation I was hoping to get, coming from
one who can speak definitively!
Carl
On 8/14/08 5:11 AM, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that things have changed in the 2.11.x releases. It used to be
that the
line breaking was determined before the
Is there any way of including a conditional page break?
What I want it for is in collections of Folk Music. These are short
pieces, typically 32 bars, and generally 2-4 lines of music. What I
don't want is to split a piece of music over two pages; and it's
getting tedious compiling Lilypond;
Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Thanks, Mats. That's the confirmation I was hoping to get, coming from
one who can speak definitively!
Not at all! Then you need to figure out what change in the code that
made the difference.
I just looked at the output from a single example.
/Mats
On 8/14/08 5:01 AM, Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carl
I don't believe tied notes over a bar line inhibit
line breaks, whether they are inserted manually or
by the Completion_heads_engraver, even when the
Forbid-line-break-engraver is present (as it is by
default.)
The docs
2007/7/8 Dewdman42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't seem to find anything in the Lilypond manual about creating harp
pedal symbols. I would think this issue has been covered a lot by users of
Lilypond. how do I do it, or something like it:
2008/8/14 Patrick Horgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think that's almost it, but it should be Fozzy Force after Fozzy Bear.
Fuzzy Force makes a nice sequel to Grumpy Graham... next time we'll
have to find something that begins with an E :-)
Cheers,
Valentin
A few days ago I posted this:
Following Mats' suggestion I went to:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=204
..to find a solution for an odd tempo marking. I succeeded in displaying the desired
result but ran into a snag. The tempo I want to display occurs at a rehearsal mark. The
tempo
Hi David,
I need to print both
4 = 53 and 4 ~ 4. = 53
...on separate staves. I'm thinking I'm back to my polyphonic
solution above.
One possibility would be to move the mark engraver to the Staff
context, and use \tag for the different elements — it's a lot more
work, but would
David Bobroff wrote:
This was all well and good until I found that I had two metronome
markings occurring at the same time. Lily doesn't like that any more
than two rehearsal mark appearing at the same time. The odd score I'm
working on has two time signatures going on at the same time.
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 14.08.2008 um 13:58 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
Perhaps even better: don't use the \\ but explicitly
instantiate one of the voices
(related to a recent email discussion).
When I removed the \\, I got errors about clashing columns. I'll
check into the explicit voice
Am 14.08.2008 um 17:31 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:
James E. Bailey wrote:
Am 14.08.2008 um 13:58 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:
Perhaps even better: don't use the \\ but explicitly
instantiate one of the voices
(related to a recent email discussion).
When I removed the \\, I got errors about
If each score is very short, you could try forbidding page breaks within each
score:
\new Score \with {
\override NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission = ##f
} {
etc.
May depend on the version you are using.
David.
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On 8/14/08 8:50 AM, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/7/8 Dewdman42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't seem to find anything in the Lilypond manual about creating harp
pedal symbols. I would think this issue has been covered a lot by users of
Lilypond. how do I do it, or
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2007/7/8 Dewdman42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't seem to find anything in the Lilypond manual about creating harp
pedal symbols. I would think this issue has been covered a lot by users
2008/8/14 Carl D. Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Valentin, you made my day. To have somebody asking _me_ questions
about LilyPond programming is a first. I've been the one asking
everybody else questions. Thanks!
Well, had I known it would make your day, I'd have spent less time
looking at
I think it is standard behaviour.
I remember there was a command to let LilyPond display all the spaces
it uses and its names. But I don´t remember the command and couldn´t
find it by searching ...
Take a look at Notation Reference 4.6.1: Displaying spacing.
-Chris
He actually did
On di, 2008-08-12 at 20:08 +0200, James E. Bailey wrote:
And am I the only one who thinks of cars seeing MG?
Nope, no cars here.
:-)
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Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
Your proposed text shows that you don't quite understand how
\textLengthOn works from a LilyPond point of view. Your terminology
is not quite right, so we'll need to change the text a bit before
we put it in the manual. I hope you'll not mind that.
Please feel free to
On 8/14/08 12:42 PM, Chris Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This seems pedantic to me - isn't the time that elapses before the next
musical moment going to be equal to the length of the shortest
note/skip/rest in the current moment?
The example I showed had a dotted half note and a markup
I've just found a wonderful example which demonstrates what I want to
fix. Look at the fourth and fifth quarter: It's *really* ugly.
On the other hand I'm not sure whether this is a different spacing
bug. Joe?
Werner
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2007/7/8 Dewdman42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't seem to find anything in the Lilypond manual about creating harp
pedal
Did you try setting \override Score.SpacingSpanner
#'average-spacing-wishes = ##f
/Mats
Quoting Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've just found a wonderful example which demonstrates what I want to
fix. Look at the fourth and fifth quarter: It's *really* ugly.
On the other hand I'm
On 8/14/08 11:16 AM, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, had I known it would make your day, I'd have spent less time
looking at your code and asked my question sooner :-)
But looking at the code and hacking something together is what made your
question very useful!
If you
Did you try setting \override Score.SpacingSpanner
#'average-spacing-wishes = ##f
It gives exactly the same result with both ##f and ##t. Such
formatting must never happen IMHO.
Werner
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Hallo again!
At the end of LM 3.3.2. there is the caution:
Note the distinction between the name of the context type, Staff, Voice, etc,
and the identifying name of a particular instance of that type ...
Well, I can manage that, I think.
Because when I'm looking at the snippets,
these names
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 05:31:27PM +0200, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
If you care about the number of key strokes, why not add a short-hand,
using a music
function:
\version 2.10.0
% Usage \split {upper music} { lower music }
split = #(define-music-function (parser location upper lower )
Hi Daniel,
Under what circumstances would you want the upper part
to be a different voice from the one-voice part?
One case is when you want lyrics or dynamics (etc.) to be attached to
the lower part.
Hope this helps,
Kieren.
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Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2008 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen:
On 8/14/08 11:16 AM, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This requires you to use lambda expressions, which are kind of
confusing.
Are lambda expressions related to
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Am Donnerstag, 14. August 2008 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen:
2 - The implementation I provide is very dirty, as I said. [...]
and inside the function I don't know how I can increment the values for
the horizontal placement of the boxes in an
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2007/7/8 Dewdman42 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can't seem to find anything in the Lilypond manual about creating harp
pedal symbols. I would think this issue has been covered a lot by users
Am 14.08.2008 um 23:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
Hi Daniel,
Under what circumstances would you want the upper part
to be a different voice from the one-voice part?
One case is when you want lyrics or dynamics (etc.) to be attached
to the lower part.
Hope this helps,
Kieren.
Or if you
Robin Bannister rcb at dataway.ch writes:
Hallo again!
At the end of LM 3.3.2. there is the caution:
Note the distinction between the name of the context type, Staff, Voice,
etc,
and the identifying name of a particular instance of that type ...
Well, I can manage that, I think.
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