Re: Questions relating to hymnals

2008-08-20 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 21.08.2008 um 04:58 schrieb Carl Peterson: I'm working on a hymnal, and I have some questions about some things I need to do for it, layout-wise. 2) If I have verses with different rhythms (e.g., one verse has only one syllable at a quarter note, but another verse has two syllables in

Re: MusicXML conversion

2008-08-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
At first I was pleasantly surprised because I think the opening pages look better in Lily, and the total uses 8 iso. 13 pages, but it appears musicxml2ly does not handle the cadenza section. Reinhold? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Simon Bielman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I converted a Finale

Re: ubuntu package

2008-08-20 Thread David Stocker
Thanks to everyone for this helpful information. I will definitely try the latest version. Dave Jonathan Kulp wrote: I've been using Ubuntu Linux now for about 9 months and have learned quite a lot about how to make things easier for me. In general, the easiest way to install new programs if

Re: Questions relating to hymnals

2008-08-20 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Carl" == Carl Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Carl> I'm working on a hymnal, and I have some questions Carl> about some things I need to do for it, layout-wise. Carl> 1) How can I number the hymns (i.e., number each score). I can't Carl> use strict page numbering, since multiple hymns

Questions relating to hymnals

2008-08-20 Thread Carl Peterson
I'm working on a hymnal, and I have some questions about some things I need to do for it, layout-wise. 1) How can I number the hymns (i.e., number each score). I can't use strict page numbering, since multiple hymns may be on a single page (and there are multi-page hymns). I also want the system t

Re: Lyrics independent of notes

2008-08-20 Thread Andrew Hawryluk
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:03 AM, Valentin Villenave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/8/12 Martin Klejch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> %% the "Lyrics independent of notes" example (chapter 7.3.7.5 of the manual) >> %% gives errors: warning: Lyric syllable does not have note. Use \lyricsto >> %% or asso

Re: Using one identifier or another

2008-08-20 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
Meanwhile, I'm still struggling with the easy task of using one identifier for another: aNotes = \relative c' { ... } %%From template: \score { #(if (not (defined? bNotes)) (define bNotes aNotes)) \bNotes } The intention is clear, but LilyPond/Scheme refuses to compile it

Re: setEasyHeads-problems

2008-08-20 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Are you sure that your problem has anything to do with \setEasyHeads and isn't caused by the fact that you use Swedish note naming conventions but forgot to add the line \include "svenska.ly" at the top of the file? The following example works excellently over here: \version "2.10.33" \relative c

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
Bryan Stanbridge wrote: I haven't written any install scripts, but is it possible to have a check, much like some OS X programs, where it asks "Do you want this program available to all users, or just your user?" and then if they select all-users to install as root instead of just install local

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Dominic Neumann
Good point! But if I have a score with three ore more verses and one refrain at the beginning, I define a command refrSkip which I add at the beginning of verses 2, 3, ... refrSkip = \repeat unfold 42 { _ } doesn´t work then. I use it that way: \addlyrics { \refrain \verseOne } \addlyrics { \r

Re: indexing

2008-08-20 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It would be great if somebody went through the list of reserved words in /lilypond/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/lilypond-words.el (for the Linux installer) and compare it to the indexes to see what's missing. Since that file is more or less automatically generated from the source code, it should be

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Scott
Dominic Neumann wrote: > It can be, but this only works in \lyricmode: > Which is the only way I do lyrics. :) Paul > OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 \skip 1 > NOT OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 _ > OKAY: \lyricmode { \repeat unfold 4 _ } > ALSO OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 \lyricmode { _ } > > Instead of what Kier

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Lara Diamand wrote: Hi Dominic, Thanks, this realy helps, one thing is not yet solves though: The text in the verses do not tek notice of the "volta", so the text in verse two runs through under volta 1. It should skip volta1 and go straight to volta 2.

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Dominic Neumann
It can be, but this only works in \lyricmode: OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 \skip 1 NOT OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 _ OKAY: \lyricmode { \repeat unfold 4 _ } ALSO OKAY: \repeat unfold 4 \lyricmode { _ } Instead of what Kieren said \repeat "unfold" 42 \skip doesn´t work, because \skip needs to be foll

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Scott
Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi all, > >> You have to put skips in your music to skip endings, etc. >> where you don't want lyrics. I usually do this with "_" (underscore). > > I tend to use > > \repeat "unfold" 42 \skip > > where 42 is replaced with the appropriate number of skips required. Sure

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Scott
Tom Cloyd wrote: > James E. Bailey wrote: >> This is very true, and I did have to consult much other information >> in order to get it working, and the instructions in the lilypond >> documentation can, with patience, be understood. The information is >> there, and it's all correct, I'm just saying

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, You have to put skips in your music to skip endings, etc. where you don't want lyrics. I usually do this with "_" (underscore). I tend to use \repeat "unfold" 42 \skip where 42 is replaced with the appropriate number of skips required. HTH! Kieren. ___

Re: lyrics

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Scott
Lara Diamand wrote: > Hi Dominic, > > Thanks, this realy helps, one thing is not yet solves though: The text > in the verses do not tek notice of the "volta", so the text in verse > two runs through under volta 1. It should skip volta1 and go straight > to volta 2. That's the way Lily works. It ma

Re: No menu UPDATE script run error

2008-08-20 Thread Paul Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, Paul, > I'm copying this back to the LilyPond User list where someone else might help also. The convention on this list is to Reply All since not everyone is subscribed to the list. I normally run LilyPond from XDarwin and the command line. I also am using Ti

Re: MusicXML conversion

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Thanks Simon! Valentin wrote a bit about this in his Lilypond Report a while back after I wrote a similarly enthusiastic post to the list about how well the conversion worked: http://valentin.villenave.info/The-LilyPond-Report-12 Best, Jonathan Simon Bielman wrote: Okay, here's the .ly fil

Re:

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 03:05:57PM -0400, Ralph Palmer wrote: > Beautiful! Thanks, Patrick. Whenever I try to dig deeper than the > Notation Reference, I still get confused and sort of lost - I find it > difficult to find things, and then difficult to get them to work when > I do find something. I'

lilypond-book with html: "Output would overwrite input file" error

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Hi All, I'm trying to understand exactly how lilypond-book works with html source files. I'm running Ubuntu 8.04 with 2.11.56. As suggested in the manual, I've specifed an output directory ( --output=DIR). So let's say my source file is ~/Documents/Composition/Piano/filename.html and my

Re:

2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Palmer
Beautiful! Thanks, Patrick. Whenever I try to dig deeper than the Notation Reference, I still get confused and sort of lost - I find it difficult to find things, and then difficult to get them to work when I do find something. I'm goint to have to re-read the documentation when the GDP gets finishe

Re: MusicXML conversion

2008-08-20 Thread Simon Bielman
Okay, here's the .ly file: http://www.simonbielman.com/other/sonata_no_2.ly Hope this helps! -- Simon Patrick McCarty wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:52:50AM -0700, Simon Bielman wrote: Hi all, I converted a Finale 2007 document to MusicXML, ran 'musicxml2ly', and ran it through LilyP

Re:

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 02:43:39PM -0400, Ralph Palmer wrote: > Greetings - > > I'm running LilyPond 2.11.53 under WinXP SP2. > > I'm trying to add ossia to a traditional Nova Scotian fiddle tune, and > I can't figure out how to get rid of the initial clef in the ossia > staff. I've tried using e

Re: MusicXML conversion

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:52:50AM -0700, Simon Bielman wrote: > Hi all, > > I converted a Finale 2007 document to MusicXML, ran 'musicxml2ly', and > ran it through LilyPond. Here are the results, along with the > Finale-imported .XML file and the .XML file itself: > > http://www.simonbielman.

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2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Palmer
Greetings - I'm running LilyPond 2.11.53 under WinXP SP2. I'm trying to add ossia to a traditional Nova Scotian fiddle tune, and I can't figure out how to get rid of the initial clef in the ossia staff. I've tried using explicitClefVisibility, but I can't get it to work. Anyone have any suggestio

Re: indexing

2008-08-20 Thread Ralph Palmer
On 8/20/08, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you willing to continue indexing? If so, where are you up to? > Yes, I am continuing indexing. I've been doing each section as I've been told it's complete. So, I've completed everything complete up through either expressive.itely or

repeat with irregular alternatives

2008-08-20 Thread fiëé visuëlle
Hello, I'm trying to typeset a song with triple verses; the first one always is a bit shorter, second and third share a longer tune. With \repeat volta 3 { shared tune } \alternative { { first ending } { second and third ending } } I get (1.-2.) and (3.) alternatives

News

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick Horgan
If you haven't seen it, the News link on the 2.11 documentation page tells you all the changes for 2.11. It's pretty cool, and has a link at the bottom to the 2.10 changes. Funny thing: my spell checker suggests that setEasyHead should be sleepyHead. I wonder if that market would make all th

MusicXML conversion

2008-08-20 Thread Simon Bielman
Hi all, I converted a Finale 2007 document to MusicXML, ran 'musicxml2ly', and ran it through LilyPond. Here are the results, along with the Finale-imported .XML file and the .XML file itself: http://www.simonbielman.com/pdf/sonata_2_finale.pdf http://www.simonbielman.com/pdf/sonata_2_lilypo

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick Horgan
Gilles Sadowski wrote: 3. Using the lilypond program (on Linux) amounts to learn the following 2 commands: $ lilypond myfyle.ly $ xpdf myfile.pdf That certainly should not scare away people motivated by the nice printed scores which this software produces. [Of course, assuming th

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Patrick Horgan
Tom Cloyd wrote: I will certainly say this about the Lilipad documentation: Other than possibly Gimp, I haven't seen anything else in the Linux application program world that compares to it. I've found it usable, helpful, and to the point. A fine achievement, without doubt. Definitely better tha

Re: problem

2008-08-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
No one can help on this without more information. Operating system (very important!), version of Lilypond, what commands you ran on your files, and so forth. Judging by "programme files" I'm guessing Windows, but please don't make us guess :) I'd say first that you should consult the Learnin

problem

2008-08-20 Thread Sotiris
Hi. I tried to install the file but the problem is that the pdf file does not appear. Maybe I do something wrong. Could you please help me? Does it matter if the installation will be in programme files or documents and settings? A help would be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance __

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/8/20 Tom Cloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And after nearly 6 months of fairly intense work in my new Kubuntu > environment, I have NEVER heard of this business of Linux's not paying > attention to what directory you're in. It's totally brand new > information. Has never been mentioned on the very-

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Bryan Stanbridge
Valentin Villenave wrote: > We provide a shell script, that is *perfectly* maintained for both our > stable and development versions, and for a wide range of operating > systems and architectures. It can either be run in root mode (files go > to /usr/local/) or in user mode (files goes to your hom

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/8/20 Tom Cloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Such a comment is NOT appropriate when dealing with someone who want to join > the community of Linux users, and, say use Lilypond, but isn't about to > "read the code". Can't, in fact. The quality of the Lilypond documentation, > and the clarity of the s

Re: "set-global-staff-size..." puzzle

2008-08-20 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/8/20 Tom Cloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > As for the staff spacing problem - if someone can just give me a clue > where to go in the documentation, that would likely suffice. Google's > doing nothing for me, and cruising the 2.11 docs contents list didn't > help either. Usually I try adjust betwee

Re: "set-global-staff-size..." puzzle

2008-08-20 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. > If I have > > "#(set-global-staff-size 20)" > > in my code, I get 6 staffs spread across 1.5 pages (#6 is all that's on > page 2). If I set the size to 18, I get the crowded onto one page with > 2" at the bottom. > > I cannot figure out what's happening, or how to get better control of

Re: "set-global-staff-size..." puzzle

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
Please ignore the "top-margin" problem. I wasn't reading my own code correctly. Problem solved. As for the staff spacing problem - if someone can just give me a clue where to go in the documentation, that would likely suffice. Google's doing nothing for me, and cruising the 2.11 docs contents lis

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
Because I'm now a Linux user, not a Windows user. My critique is a cultural one. Window cultural is autocratic and not community centric. Linux culture is much more community centric, but the community is generally far better informed about technical subjects. If it is wished that the communit

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. > [...] > > For what it's worth. > > And again...thanks for all the help people have offered me since I've > arrive here. I now have a very good looking score in front of me, as > fruits for this labor - and more to come. I'm loving the experience I'm > having here, mostly. I'd love to giv

Re: "set-global-staff-size..." puzzle

2008-08-20 Thread James E. Bailey
It isn't simple. Chapter 4, Spacing Issues is (for me) a difficult read, and somewhat complex. Also, I read the email thread from a couple of months ago about this every couple of weeks, I don't understand it all fully, but I understand a little more each time I read it. http://lists.gnu.or

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Tom Why not use the Windows version? That installs as you would expect and works exactly like the Unix one? Trevor - Original Message - From: "Tom Cloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lilipond" Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems James E. Baile

"set-global-staff-size..." puzzle

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
I suspect this is simple - but not for me. I've tried hard to solve this one myself, but I'm not coming up with ANYTHING helpful anywhere. If I have "#(set-global-staff-size 20)" in my code, I get 6 staffs spread across 1.5 pages (#6 is all that's on page 2). If I set the size to 18, I get

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
James E. Bailey wrote: Am 20.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Graham Percival: It's not the job of the lilypond manual to teach users how to use their operating systems. There's *tons* of other help available on the internet for such tasks -- and a lot of that help has much prettier pictures than w

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 20.08.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Graham Percival: It's not the job of the lilypond manual to teach users how to use their operating systems. There's *tons* of other help available on the internet for such tasks -- and a lot of that help has much prettier pictures than we'd have the patience to

setEasyHeads-problems

2008-08-20 Thread David
Hi. When I use the setEasyHeads, I cant get the program to write out fiss, ciss, bess etc. Am I doing something wrong or is it not possible to do? Thankful for any help David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/m

Re: LSR search is broken (was: \repeat with upbeat )

2008-08-20 Thread Eluze
vigna wrote: > > Guys, please post this kind of problems. > There seems to be a new problem with the snippets' repository - thanks for looking at it! -Eluze -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/LSR-search-is-broken-%28was%3A-%5Crepeat-with-upbeat-%29-tp18312203p19066058.

Re: indexing

2008-08-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ralph, you wrote Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:57 PM Nice explanation, Trevor. It looks adequate to me, and certainly much better than what's there now. Can you suggest someone to whom I could make a formal request for a change in the description of the indices? I have neither the authority to

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:43:50 +0200 "James E. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if your only previous experience running software is double- > clicking, it's pretty daunting. And most software that requires that > knowledge is written by people who already know it. I'll say it, > lilypo

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread James E. Bailey
Sure, if you're up on your Linux, no problem, but the Linux world is drawing a number of people who come from other backgrounds (i.e., Windows), AND don't have a lot of time to study up. Knowing that you run a program by doing cd progdir ./progname or adding it to your PATH environment varia

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:12:53 -0700 Tom Cloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I may humbly suggest: I really think that section of > http://lilypond.org/web/install/ dealing with Linux installers should > read "do sudo sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh in a command window", not > just "do sh lilypond-

Re: Metronome ticks

2008-08-20 Thread Johan Vromans
[Quoting Neil Puttock, on August 19 2008, 23:44, in "Re: Metronome ticks"] > makeUnfold = > [...] Exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! (It is possible to add unfoldRepeats to the function?) -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.o

Re: ver. 2.11.56 problems

2008-08-20 Thread Tom Cloyd
Ok - report from the trenches: an install as administrator really does solve this problem. My 2.11 version now runs just like my previous 2.10 did. I'm back in business. If I may humbly suggest: I really think that section of http://lilypond.org/web/install/ dealing with Linux installers should r