Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/12 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jo > > Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the 2.11 > Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar. http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg39763.html You have read this thread :-)

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/11 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Related question: Why do you only get one fermata when you do the following: > b4^\fermata_\fermata I dont know why. I (still?) use 2.11.42, and this code: \relative b' { b4^\fermata_\fermata b\rest \fermata b2\rest \fermata r1 \fermata } gives me

apologies

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
Please disregard my previous post - I've done it (noticed one thing I needed to change on what I had written)! That's made my day - hooray!!! :) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/apologies-tp19450006p19450006.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at N

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
Neil Puttock wrote: > > 2008/9/11 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Jo >> >> Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the >> 2.11 >> Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar. > > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=504 > > ...or i

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Kieren, On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:01:20PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > BINGO!! If I set > ragged-bottom = ##f > ragged-last-bottom = ##t > > and — here's the key — DON'T set between-system-padding, I get what I > want. This variable can sometimes be useful, but I haven't had m

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Patrick, What happens if you set ragged-bottom = ##f instead? It gets ugly… =) This looks odd. It could be caused by this particular combination of paper variables (and values). Try commenting out the paper variables (between-*, ragged-*) and let us know how the results differ. BINGO

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:36:52PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Regardless of whether there have been any changes or not in the last few > versions, can you (or anyone) explain why Lilypond would leave a gap on > the *first* page of two, instead of the *second*? It just doesn't make > sens

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:28:36PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > No… I'm just reacting to having typeset a bunch of stuff over the years, > and noticing that recently (i.e., in the last year or so), I'm having > more difficulty getting the page layout — specifically, system spacing — > the

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Patrick, I didn't realize 2.11.58 was released, since Han-Wen hasn't pushed a tagged commit yet. :-) You're right… I'm still on .57! =\ you might want to try increasing [top-margin and bottom-margin] to achieve the same layout you had before. Thanks — I'll see if that's causing the pr

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For example, I've got a violin part that fits nicely on 17 systems across 2 > pages. I might be misunderstanding. I'm not sure if you are referring to the page breaking changes between 2.10 and 2.11 specifically. Is

Re: page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Kieren, On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 04:49:56PM -0400, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > [Lilypond 2.11.58] I didn't realize 2.11.58 was released, since Han-Wen hasn't pushed a tagged commit yet. :-) > Is it just me, or does the new page-breaking algorithm favour the last > page? See if the top-margin

Emacs lilypond-mode faces

2008-09-11 Thread Christopher Suckling
As my standard font-lock faces didn't go well with LilyPond scores, here are a couple of patches and a new elisp file to provide customization for the lilypond-mode's faces. Feel free to pore scorn on my choices of defaults; they're work in progress and (currently) go well with my color-theme. Chr

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/9/11 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jo > > Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the 2.11 > Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar. http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1&id=504 ...or if you want 1 and every nth: #(define ((fir

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Jo Have a look at the Known issues in section 1.2.5.2 Bar numbers in the 2.11 Notation Reference - it is not possible to print a 1 on the first bar. Trevor - Original Message - From: "jo.clarinet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:46 PM Subject: Re: ferm

Re: LSR up

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Watts
Excellent news -- thanx for your efforts. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
James E. Bailey-2 wrote: > > > On 11.09.2008, at 17:39, jo.clarinet wrote: > How do I get the bar numbers to come up as 5, 10, 15 etc >>> rather >>> than at the beginning of each line? > > http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bar-numbers.html#Bar-numbers > % Prin

page-breaking favours last page?

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
[Lilypond 2.11.58] Hello all, Is it just me, or does the new page-breaking algorithm favour the last page? For example, I've got a violin part that fits nicely on 17 systems across 2 pages. My settings include %% system settings ragged-bottom = ##t

LSR up

2008-09-11 Thread Sebastiano Vigna
Hi guys! I've finally been able to remotely replace the hard disk of my server (it's 1600 km away, and it broke down on Aug 13, when EVERYTHING is severely shut down in Italy). It moved to a read-only state because of a bad block on the file system journal. I'm very sorry for the nuisance

Re: \showLastLength error message

2008-09-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Sweet! Thanks Neil. I can't even remember now why I did it with a backslash. It's surprising that it works anyway, given how things like this often cause files to fail. Glad to be rid of the error message :) Thanks, Jon Neil Puttock wrote: Hi Jon, 2008/9/11 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: position of text in timeSig

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Stefan, "rit.", "piu mosso", etc. shall be shown always on top, in all parts and in the score. Or do You know another way to do this without the timeSig? Put all of those things in a variable, and then include that variable in the score and parts. See the docs for more details. HTH! K

Re: barnumbers (was: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti)

2008-09-11 Thread Mark Knoop
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 08:39 -0700, jo.clarinet wrote: > > I have one more question (for the moment - I think I'll be OK for a while > > now!). How do I get the bar numbers to come up as 5, 10, 15 etc rather > > than at the beginning of each line? (I've several times come across links > > to just th

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 17:39, jo.clarinet wrote: I have one more question (for the moment - I think I'll be OK for a while now!). How do I get the bar numbers to come up as 5, 10, 15 etc rather than at the beginning of each line? (I've several times come across links to just this subject but, f

Re: \showLastLength error message

2008-09-11 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Jon, 2008/9/11 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When I use the \showLastLength command I get an error message: > > unknown escaped string: `\showLastLength' > > However, it seems that the command really is "known" because it performs the > command perfectly, only showing me the last several

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson
James E. Bailey wrote: I've wondered that as well. Especially with piano fingerings for chords, where I may want to specifically have 1 finger above the note and another finger below. See the section on Finger instructions in the Notation Reference. /Mats __

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
James E. Bailey-2 wrote: > > > On 11.09.2008, at 13:09, jo.clarinet wrote: > >>> From looking at my score, I can see that it seems to be CENTRING >>> each new >>> tempo indication on the bar-line, rather than beginning it there! >>> So that, >>> for example, if I write Allegretto brillant

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 17:26, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Related question: Why do you only get one fermata when you do the following: b4^\fermata_\fermata More generally: why can't you add the same articulation above and below a note, using a construct like c^._. As long as you specify different ar

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Related question: Why do you only get one fermata when you do the following: b4^\fermata_\fermata More generally: why can't you add the same articulation above and below a note, using a construct like c^._. As long as you specify different articulations, you can add several of them, both above

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Dmytro, (Why \fermata below space is shifted?..) I don't know — might be related to the fact that Voice contexts are shifted (to avoid collisions when there are real notes). Maybe there's a developer that can answer… Kieren. ___ lilypond-user

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/9/11 Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Dmytro: > >> So, fermata below space is a bit shifted to the right. >> How can i solve this? > > Here are two options: > > > \score > { ><< >\relative b' { b4 \fermata b\rest \fermata b2\rest \fermata

Re: "Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Dmytro: So, fermata below space is a bit shifted to the right. How can i solve this? Here are two options: \score { << \relative b' { b4 \fermata b\rest \fermata b2\rest \fermata } \\ \relative g' { g4 \fermata s4 \fermata \onc

Re: error: no rhythmic group to end

2008-09-11 Thread Eluze
Peter Johnson wrote: > > > On 11 Sep 2008, at 11:08, James E. Bailey wrote: > >> I'm a little puzzled by this. I get the error: no rhythmic group to >> end, but the output looks fine. Should I worry? > > Possibly. There seems to be a conflict between the simultaneous > triplets in the no

Re: error: no rhythmic group to end

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 15:50, Peter Johnson wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 11:08, James E. Bailey wrote: I'm a little puzzled by this. I get the error: no rhythmic group to end, but the output looks fine. Should I worry? Possibly. There seems to be a conflict between the simultaneous triplets in

"Shifted" fermata over/below rests

2008-09-11 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Hello, i've found one "problem": << \relative b' { b4 \fermata b\rest \fermata b2\rest \fermata } \\ \relative g' { g4 \fermata s4 \fermata s2 \fermata } >> \paper { line-width = 7\cm } (with 2.11.42 the result is: attached.) So, fermata below space is a bit shifted to the right. How

\showLastLength error message

2008-09-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
When I use the \showLastLength command I get an error message: unknown escaped string: `\showLastLength' However, it seems that the command really is "known" because it performs the command perfectly, only showing me the last several bars of the piece. Any idea why this error message appears?

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
So you know, you can use \tag to reduce a lot of your output. For example: uI = { \voiceOne \partial 8 r8 4. \tag #'slurs { 8 ~ } \tag #'noslurs {4} <\parenthesize b e'>4 \tag #'slurs { 8 ~} \tag #'noslurs {4 } | } ___

Re: error: no rhythmic group to end

2008-09-11 Thread Peter Johnson
On 11 Sep 2008, at 11:08, James E. Bailey wrote: I'm a little puzzled by this. I get the error: no rhythmic group to end, but the output looks fine. Should I worry? Possibly. There seems to be a conflict between the simultaneous triplets in the notes and in the dynamics. I haven't been a

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread Grammostola Rosea
David Raleigh Arnold wrote: On Thursday 11 September 2008 08:01, Grammostola Rosea wrote: James E. Bailey wrote: If I understand this correctly, you want the music to show a4.~ a4 but the tablature to only show a4. Since you using the actual music in a tab staff, it will dis

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 11 September 2008 08:01, Grammostola Rosea wrote: > James E. Bailey wrote: > > > > If I understand this correctly, you want the music to show a4.~ a4 but > > the tablature to only show a4. Since you using the actual music in a > > tab staff, it will display all of the music that is s

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 14:01, Grammostola Rosea wrote: Ok, this helps. But a little problem arises... how should I display this without an slur a,4 ~ a,4. It isn't a,2. is it? no Should I add an rest and makes those invisible? a4 s4. is probably the easiest way. __

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread Grammostola Rosea
James E. Bailey wrote: If I understand this correctly, you want the music to show a4.~ a4 but the tablature to only show a4. Since you using the actual music in a tab staff, it will display all of the music that is shown in the regular staff. So, if you want to have something different shown

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 13:09, jo.clarinet wrote: 2. I can get tempo indications like Allegro, Andante etc printed up, but when tempo changes occur in the course of a piece, they seem to come up about half-a-bar before they should. I set the \mark\markup for just before the first note of the new sect

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
Paul Scott-3 wrote: > > >> (Jo's post) >> 2. I can get tempo indications like Allegro, Andante etc printed >> up, but >> when tempo changes occur in the course of a piece, they seem to >> come up >> about half-a-bar before they should. I set the \mark\markup for >> just before >> the fir

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread jo.clarinet
This is what I was looking for - a fermata over a whole bar's rest - thank you! Zoltan Selyem-2 wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, James E. Bailey wrote: > >> I would like to know if it's possible to get a fermata over a >> full-measure >> rest (i.e., R1\fermata). So far, my attempts haven't

error: no rhythmic group to end

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm a little puzzled by this. I get the error: no rhythmic group to end, but the output looks fine. Should I worry? \version "2.11.58" global = { \time 6/4 s1. } sopranosoloMusic = \relative f'' { r4 es b(~ \times 2/3 {b8[ c d]} \times 2/3 {es4) c b} } sopranosoloWords =\lyricmode { my sou

Re: Rhythmic staff with no line?

2008-09-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 11. September 2008 schrieb Tomas Valusek: > thank you, but I need to create such excercise quite quickly, and it's > quite difficult for me to figure out what to do. Could you please > provide me with a little template of line-less rhyth

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread Grammostola Rosea
James E. Bailey wrote: On 11.09.2008, at 10:32, Grammostola Rosea wrote: James E. Bailey wrote: On 10.09.2008, at 22:58, Grammostola Rosea wrote: How do I make the dots in the tablature (only, not notation) invisible? You have to remove them. http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/us

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 10:32, Grammostola Rosea wrote: James E. Bailey wrote: On 10.09.2008, at 22:58, Grammostola Rosea wrote: How do I make the dots in the tablature (only, not notation) invisible? You have to remove them. http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Controlling-

maximum inclination of beams

2008-09-11 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypond-users, in the below quoted example the inclination of the beam is, in my opinion, a bit extreme. Is there a possibilitie to change the maximum inclination of beams in general, for a whole score? Here the short example: \relative { \times 4/5 { c16 c' g' c e } g2. } ___

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.09.2008, at 10:26, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I know, right? Oops, I mixed up the names, sorry. No, I really should have found that on my own. I can be daft, too. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailm

Re: notation TAB matching

2008-09-11 Thread Grammostola Rosea
James E. Bailey wrote: On 10.09.2008, at 22:58, Grammostola Rosea wrote: How do I make the dots in the tablature (only, not notation) invisible? You have to remove them. http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Controlling-visibility-of-objects.html#Controlling-visibility-of-

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I know, right? Oops, I mixed up the names, sorry. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
I know, right? On 11.09.2008, at 09:53, Werner LEMBERG wrote: I would like to know if it's possible to get a fermata over a full-measure rest (i.e., R1\fermata). So far, my attempts haven't worked, and I end up having to use a whole rest shifted over. The solution is:R1^\fermataMarkup

Re: Rhythmic staff with no line?

2008-09-11 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, thank you, but I need to create such excercise quite quickly, and it's quite difficult for me to figure out what to do. Could you please provide me with a little template of line-less rhythmic example? Thank you. Tomas Valusek James E. Bailey napsal(a): While this specific example isn

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> > I would like to know if it's possible to get a fermata over a > > full-measure rest (i.e., R1\fermata). So far, my attempts haven't > > worked, and I end up having to use a whole rest shifted over. > > The solution is:R1^\fermataMarkup The question is: Why hasn't James found this immedia

Re: position of text in timeSig

2008-09-11 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear Gilles, I need the TimeSig, becauses I have written a larger, so called "french" score. In the score as well in the parts the exrpessions like "rit.", "piu mosso", etc. shall be shown always on top, in all parts and in the score. Or do You know another way to do this without the timeSig? 2008

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
James Ralph has been beavering away adding index entries to the manuals, and this is now a really helpful resource, getting better day by day. In your case the index to the Notation Reference has an entry under "f" for "fermata on multi-measure rest". The referenced page says "R2.^\fermataMa

Re: Rhythmic staff with no line?

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
While this specific example isn't there, http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Modifying-single-staves.html#Staff-symbol shows how to remove various elements from a staff. On 11.09.2008, at 09:40, Tomas Valusek wrote: Hello, how can I create a rhythmic excercise consistin

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread Zoltan Selyem
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, James E. Bailey wrote: I would like to know if it's possible to get a fermata over a full-measure rest (i.e., R1\fermata). So far, my attempts haven't worked, and I end up having to use a whole rest shifted over. The solution is:R1^\fermataMarkup It can be found i

Rhythmic staff with no line?

2008-09-11 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, how can I create a rhythmic excercise consisting soleley of time signature, bar lines and notes, with no staff line? I have found no example of this in Lilypond examples. Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org ht

Re: fermata over rest, tempo positioning, solo/tutti

2008-09-11 Thread James E. Bailey
I would like to know if it's possible to get a fermata over a full- measure rest (i.e., R1\fermata). So far, my attempts haven't worked, and I end up having to use a whole rest shifted over. On 11.09.2008, at 07:46, Paul Scott wrote: On Sep 10, 2008, at 10:30 PM, jo.clarinet wrote: I've