Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Sebastian Menge
Am Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:47:56 +0200 schrieb Alexander Kobel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the > navigation sidebar? On my 13" MacBook (1280x800), there is /plenty/ of > space wasted (default font settings in Firefox 3, haven't changed > anything).

Re: Measurement units for Stem Length (and in general)

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm confused why the stem length shouldn't normally be 3 for a > stem that spans three spaces. In the Internals Reference for stem, > the unit for the setting "length" is given as "dimension, in staff > spac

Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:00:59 +0200 fi visu__lle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 2008-10-05 um 17:46 schrieb Valentin Villenave: > > > >> You don't need to quote stuff that you've done. I know that I'm > >> right. I really don't need the ego boost of having you tell > >> me. :) > > We all nee

Re: Measurement units for Stem Length (and in general)

2008-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Monday, October 06, 2008 10:50 AM On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm confused why the stem length shouldn't normally be 3 for a stem that spans three spaces. In the Internals Reference for stem, the unit for the

Re: embedded-ps stencil confusion

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:16:49 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/5 Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> Wow, Mark, that is really cool! This should be added to the LSR. > >> Would you l

Re: embedded-ps stencil confusion

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/5 Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wow, Mark, that is really cool! This should be added to the LSR. >> Would you like me to add it? > > Sure! But here's a slightly different version that demonstrates the > con

Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:46:45 +0200 "Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/5 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Do you honestly consider LaTeX to be a "word processor"? > > Well, at least my personal source of knowledge and wisdom says so: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaT

Line spacing inside standalone markup

2008-10-06 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
i have a complex standalone markup (XP + 2.11.61). A reduced version is below. In the pdf file, lines #3 and #4 collide; i would like between them the same space as between #1 and #2, or #4 and #5. PS: merging the 2 columns into one with the six lines is not an option, because in the real situati

Re: Line spacing inside standalone markup

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/6 sdfgsdhdshd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In the pdf file, lines #3 and #4 collide; i would like between them the same > space as between #1 and #2, or #4 and #5. Just add a \null before the second \line. Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: embedded-ps stencil confusion

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/6 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can't normal users tag stuff with "docs"? Your or Neil would > still need to Approve it, but surely you still want normal users > to indicate whether they think it should be included in the docs > or not. Yes, I meant "Approve". That being said, w

Re: Line spacing inside standalone markup

2008-10-06 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
Valentin Villenave wrote: > > 2008/10/6 sdfgsdhdshd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> In the pdf file, lines #3 and #4 collide; i would like between them the >> same >> space as between #1 and #2, or #4 and #5. > > Just add a \null before the second \line. > This solve the example; it solves 80% of

Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/6 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, your personal source of knowledge and wisdom sucks. Matter of generation: not everybody was lucky enough to live at the glorious era of usenet, you know :-) > I recommend removing \markuplines from the @predef, and change the > final paragrap

Re: Line spacing inside standalone markup

2008-10-06 Thread sdfgsdhdshd
sdfgsdhdshd wrote: > > > > Valentin Villenave wrote: >> >> 2008/10/6 sdfgsdhdshd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> In the pdf file, lines #3 and #4 collide; i would like between them the >>> same >>> space as between #1 and #2, or #4 and #5. >> >> Just add a \null before the second \line. >> >

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Mark Polesky
> > However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the > > navigation sidebar? > > ...One option (and my preferred) is to fix the width of the html and > center the whole thing... Or allowing the user to move the separator left and right with the mouse. - Mark __

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2008 schrieb Mark Polesky: > > > However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the > > > navigation sidebar? > > > > ...One option (and my preferred) is to fix the width of the html and > > center the whole thing... >

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 schrieb John Mandereau: > Le samedi 04 octobre 2008 à 22:18 +0200, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : > > Am Samstag, 4. Oktober 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister: > > > Without the prefix the title is then just e.g. "Learning Manual",

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty: > On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Robin Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Patrick McCarty wrote: > >> Can you clarify what you mean by the latest styling hiding this feature? > > > > Well, at

Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:40:48 -0700 Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that I've learned the most from the online conversations > between Graham and Valentin, and as a tribute to them, would like to > give what to some may seem an overly obvious interpretation of the > undercurrent

keep-inside-line ignores rehearsal marks, v2.11.60

2008-10-06 Thread Thies Albrecht
Hi everybody! When self-alignment-X is set to #-1 for a rehearsal mark its extent seems to be ignored by the keep-inside-line setting. Is this behaviour intendend? And if so, how do I keep marks inside the page column limits? Example: \relative c'' { \override Score.PaperColumn #'keep-insid

Re: embedded-ps stencil confusion

2008-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Valentin Villenave wrote Monday, October 06, 2008 12:16 PM 2008/10/5 Mark Polesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Patrick McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Wow, Mark, that is really cool! This should be added to the LSR. Would you like me to add it? Sure! But here's

Re: embedded-ps stencil confusion

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/6 Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK, I added it (my first, so please check it out > and fix it up if necessary). I'd like to ref it > in the docs. Hi Trevor, which one is it? http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=516 or http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=517 ? (PS you may obtain

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
Hi Reinhold, On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:13 AM, Reinhold Kainhofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've added class="toc_uplink" to the element (and adjustes the .css > accordingly), so I'm not restricted from using other elements in the toc > frame. > >> These pages also include my latest styleshee

Re: keep-inside-line ignores rehearsal marks, v2.11.60

2008-10-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I think your conclusion is wrong. As far as I can understand, rehearsal marks always ignore the keep-inside-line setting, no matter what the alignment is. Example: \relative c'' { \override Score.PaperColumn #'keep-inside-line = ##t % \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #-1

Re: Measurement units for Stem Length (and in general)

2008-10-06 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Unrelated to your question, why don't you use \override NoteHead #'style = #'cross instead of the complicated setting of stencil + text to get the cross? See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond/Note-heads#Special-note-heads /Mats Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I've started doin

Re: keep-inside-line ignores rehearsal marks, v2.11.60

2008-10-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/10/6 Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think your conclusion is wrong. As far as I can understand, > rehearsal marks always ignore the keep-inside-line setting, Thies: but IIRC they *do* obey to \override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'keep-inside-line = ##t (in case you need a workarou

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty: > Thanks! That's not a problem. It looks like the init file might need > a slight adjustment though, because the structural changes didn't > affect these pages: > > http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/in

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 1. Oktober 2008 schrieb Patrick McCarty: > > - -) On the NEWS page the title is not shown in the green (there's also > > no navbar, but that's a texi2html issue, but then, a navbar is not needed > > anyway...) > > That's really strange.  A

Re: Notation Reference 1.8 "Text" : ready for review

2008-10-06 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 10/6/08 10:12 AM, "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:40:48 -0700 > Patrick Horgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Graham Percival wrote:On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:44:27 +0200 >> Also, what do you mean by "using a specific syntax"? (same paragraph) >>Obvi

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Robin Bannister
Kurt Kroon wrote: the CSS "quasi-frames" already provide the affordance of a fixed navigation frame, so it isn't necessary to make their backgrounds "matchy-matchy". I don't understand which background areas you are referring to. By "navigation bars" I was referring to the horizontal stripes

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister: > In fact, I think the TOC has too many sorts of indications at the moment. > > Unlike the main pane, it is not for normal reading, but for scanning: > eyewise, you zoom out a bit and apply a sort o

Re: mao

2008-10-06 Thread Tim Reeves
> > > > So when I write "Mao", it has *nothing* to do with chairman mao. > > > > Ah -- finally I get an explanation of "mao" in the writings of Graham. > Obviously the M in WTM has just as much meaning as the F in WTF, but I have > never before been able to find out when or why "mao" began to be

passing a Context to a scheme function (format-metronome-markup)

2008-10-06 Thread Graham Percival
I'm experimenting with calling (format-metronome-markup) directly, but I'm having difficulty with the context argument. // main code: (define-public (format-metronome-markup text dur count context) ... My code: \header{ piece = #(format-metronome-markup "Allegro" 4 120 'Global) } \relative c

Problems with Hairpins

2008-10-06 Thread Antheo
I am trying to write notes to practice bow pressure on Violin. To practice, we play the same note with different crescendo/decrescendo patterns. What i am trying to do is in the image below called "hairpin" http://www.nabble.com/file/p19847565/hairpin.png In Lilypond, I did the following: \ver

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Robin Bannister
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: This is always a good argument (similar things should look similar), however, I think in our case we can afford to use a "nicer" color in the sidebar, since it is already spacially separated from the contents (by having its own column on the left). I would turn this

Re: Problems with Hairpins

2008-10-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Antheo, Problems are that the first hairpins are too short The 3rd and 4th are uneven and the tie between the first notes does not work. Any ideas how to accomplish that? Perhaps something like % \version "2.11.59" \layout { indent = 0.0\cm % remove indent on first

Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
I'm ready for an inspiring example of string music as the headword for NR 2.3 Unfretted string instruments. A fragment of a string quartet maybe? Any suggestions or volunteers to produce one? Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@g

Re: Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-06 Thread Jonathan Kulp
I wouldn't mind doing that. I have some Beethoven quartet scores from which I could choose something, perhaps? It would be cool to do something more modern if it's in public domain. Jon Trevor Daniels wrote: I'm ready for an inspiring example of string music as the headword for NR 2.3 Unfre

Re: Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-06 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, It would be cool to do something more modern if it's in public domain. Ravel and Debussy are both PD, as are the early Webern that were published in the U.S. before the 1920s. Best, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@g

Amendment to the documentation 2.10.33

2008-10-06 Thread David Hatherly
Section 3.4 of the lilypond manual describes how to produce a multi-part score, and it also talks about condensing multibar rests. It would be useful if it was made clear here that the << and >> commands are needed in this context - see the message in the user archives at http://lists.gnu.org/arch

Re: scheme music function going backwards in time (or"better mp dolce") [solved]

2008-10-06 Thread lily . user
> "Graham" == Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The only problem is that the dynamics of the new commands are not >> reflected in the MIDI output. Graham> Hmm... I can't get concerned about that. I guess that Graham> somebody writing piano music might care, but since I write fo

Re: Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-06 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Ah, good ideas. I was just looking at Bartok's First Quartet as well, which was first published in 1911. The Ravel has always been a favorite, though, so I'll go find that one and take a look. Jon Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi all, It would be cool to do something more modern if it's in publ

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-06 Thread Alexander Kobel
Sebastian Menge wrote: > Am Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:47:56 +0200 > schrieb Alexander Kobel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> However, one suggestion: Have you talked about the size of the >> navigation sidebar? On my 13" MacBook (1280x800), there is /plenty/ of >> space wasted [...] but I guess I'd prefer a li

Re: Measurement units for Stem Length (and in general)

2008-10-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message From: Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jonathan Wilkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 2:50:55 AM Subject: Re: Measurement units for Stem Length (and in general) On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:50:54 -0700 (PDT) Jonathan Wilk

Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-06 Thread Ari Torhamo
Hello, I'm trying to create a score which contains a piano staff, has single staff polyphony and has lyrics placed between the staves (only one voice). I have managed to create the staves and the different voices, but whatever I try I can't get the lyrics to work. I've been struggling with the lyr

Re: Problems with Hairpins

2008-10-06 Thread Antheo
thanks, i learned a new trick with the make-moment. Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi Antheo, > >> Problems are that the first hairpins are too short >> The 3rd and 4th are uneven and the tie between the first notes does >> not work. >> Any ideas how to accomplish that? > > Perhaps something

Re: Headword for unfretted-strings

2008-10-06 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Ok I've put together six bars of the Ravel quartet. File is attached so you can see it looks like it'll be appropriate. It would be nice to have a couple of fingerings and bowing indications, but this passage didn't have any. There are some pizz. and arco and up-bow on the next system but it

Re: Piano staff, single staff polyphony and lyrics

2008-10-06 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Ari, Perhaps you can use the file attached to the following thread as a template: http://www.nabble.com/Shrinking-to-fit-on-a-single-page-td19810965.html His posting was asking how to fit the piece on a single page, but his song has lyrics between the staves and each staff has multiple voices