Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/12 Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it runs because it needs to build a font cache, but successive times should not be slow. Just wondering: Does lilypond emit a message that the font

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Hello, dont beat the messenger, its the donkey: Sometimes ago I had the same problem and I messured the compilation times of one and the same lilypond music file. modelage OS Processor memory Compiletimet Thinkpad x21ca. 10XP 700 MHz

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/12 Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes ago I had the same problem and I messured the compilation times of one and the same lilypond music file. So throw away Vista and you will see light at the end of the tunnel This could have changed. It would be fine if you repeated the tests

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You need to use the procedure primitive-eval to evaluate a symbol YES! That's the trick. Thanks! -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:44 AM 2008/11/12 Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sometimes ago I had the same problem and I messured the compilation times of one and the same lilypond music file. So throw away Vista and you will see light at the end of the tunnel This

Re: how lilypond-book deals with multiple LP releases on disk

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Polesky
John Mandereau wrote: ... or make sure LilyPond 2.11.63 directory comes before 2.10.33 directory in your PATH. That's what it was. 2.10.33 was listed first. Changed it, now it works as expected. Thanks so much! - Mark ps. Windows users -- if you don't know where the PATH is, right-click on My

Sliding fingering indication

2008-11-12 Thread Nick Payne
It's quite common in guitar scores to have a fingering indication with a dash in front of it, to indicate that the finger should be slid along the string from the previous fretting position rather than being lifted. I can do this in Lilypond, but only if the fingering appears in the default

Re: Sliding fingering indication

2008-11-12 Thread David Stocker
I'm also interested in this, but I haven't gotten around to adding fingerings to my scores yet. I'd add that the dash to the left of the fingering should have a slight incline in the direction of the slide. Is that something that would be relatively simple to do in the current version? Nick

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Slattery
Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 545 Defect Verified Medium v.villenaveLilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Performance fixed_2_11_43 Rob, Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it runs because it

Special characters (umlauts, accents, etc) in lyrics

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Slattery
I'm setting a song with German lyrics. Several places there are umlauts over a and u, and the German double-s character that looks like a Greek beta. I found these things in Vista's CharacterMap, and pasted them into my input file. They showed just fine there. But when I ran I got hordes of

Re: Special characters (umlauts, accents, etc) in lyrics

2008-11-12 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
Hi Tim, 2008/11/12 Tim Slattery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So how can I get Lilypond to use these characters? Lilypond should be able to handle them if you set the file encoding to UTF-8 -Risto ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Mark Polesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wow! Someone should add this to the LSR! Stay tuned, it'll get even better... -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Charlie Ledocq
Hi Valentin, Valentin Villenave a écrit : bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. bzip2: Invalid argument Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) Last time I tried, it worked fine on both Puppy Linux and Slackware

Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/12 Charlie Ledocq [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But now I do not know how to start lilypond: there is a /usr/bin/lilypond file and I presume something had to be done on it but what? since /usr/bin is already part of the PATH variable of the operating system, just type lilypond my_file.ly in a

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/12 Tim Slattery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it sits for almost 50 seconds, apparently doing NOTHING. Then it wakes up and processes the file. It's still usable, but it sure slows things down. Hi Tim, just to be sure: which 2.11 version are you referring to? (and have you deleted the

Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Charlie Ledocq
Valentin Villenave a écrit : 2008/11/12 Charlie Ledocq [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But now I do not know how to start lilypond: there is a /usr/bin/lilypond file and I presume something had to be done on it but what? since /usr/bin is already part of the PATH variable of the operating

Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/12 Charlie Ledocq [EMAIL PROTECTED]: lilypond: Symbol `scm_i_freelist' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking GNU LilyPond 2.10.33 Segmentation fault Perhaps you should check your guile installation. Cheers, Valentin

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Hajo Dezelski
Sorry, no chance. I have errased Vista from my system and they live happily ever after ... But to be correct: The little Thinkpadseries seem to have problems with Vista. That was one off the reasons why Lenovo officially provided a Downgradeversion from Vista to XP. We had similiar effects on

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Stay tuned, it'll get even better... If it would only work... What I'm trying to achieve is to have input lines processed selectively based on whether certain symbols are defined. For example, I have a file highstaff.ly: \new Staff = High

installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Charlie Ledocq
Hi, installation of lilypond lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh on ToutouLinux 03.01.4 doing in a terminal sh lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh returns the following: # sh lilypond-2.10.33-1.linux-x86.sh LilyPond installer for version

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:28:37PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: What I'm trying to achieve is to have input lines processed selectively based on whether certain symbols are defined. Umm, use \tag? See different editions from one source in NR 3. Cheers, - Graham

RE: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Nick Payne
I have to say I agree with the OP complaint about slow on Vista. I recently (last weekend) upgraded my HP DX5150 (Athlon dual core CPU, 4Gb RAM) from XP to Vista Business, and although I haven't done any timings, Lilypond 2.11.63 is clearly slower on Vista than it was on XP. It actually wasn't an

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Polesky
Wow! Someone should add this to the LSR! - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: installation on ToutouLinux 03.01.4

2008-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/12 Charlie Ledocq [EMAIL PROTECTED]: bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. bzip2: Invalid argument Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout) Last time I tried, it worked fine on both Puppy Linux and Slackware

Re: a\breve + a1 = ?

2008-11-12 Thread stezano
Ok, than I translate for me and other violists(!): easy answer. a\breve~ a1 = a\breve. !!! tested. it works fine. Jean-marc LEGRAND wrote: Hi list ! Using lily 2.8 on WinXP Is there any simple way to do a breve. duration ? I mean : can I write a\breve. for a\breve~ a1 ?

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Tim Slattery wrote: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 545 Defect Verified Medium v.villenaveLilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista Performance fixed_2_11_43 Rob, Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it

Re: Special characters (umlauts, accents, etc) in lyrics

2008-11-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/12 Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Tim, 2008/11/12 Tim Slattery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So how can I get Lilypond to use these characters? Lilypond should be able to handle them if you set the file encoding to UTF-8 Added to my FAQ.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and it took about 90 seconds, then ran it a second time and it took more than 60

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 12 nov. 08 à 05:48, Carl Sorensen a écrit : Johan Vromans jvromans at squirrel.nl writes: Stupic question, I assume... In a scheme function I have a symbol that is the name of a lilypond expression. How can I get its music value? E.g. ifDefined = #(define-music-function (parser

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and it took about 90 seconds, then ran it a second time and it

Re: programming error: (de)crescendo on items with specified volume

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Polesky
Frédéric, It's the MIDI engine that's complaining. If you don't need a MIDI file, remove the \midi { } block, and the errors will not be generated. This can happen if you try to crescendo from one dynamic to the same dynamic or a softer one; or if you try to diminuendo from one dynamic to the

Re:LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Reeves
Hajo Dezelski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinkpad x61sNewUbuntu (Linux)Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB4-5 s Thinkpad x61sNewXP Dual 1,6 GHz2 GB2 s Only one data point but interesting: Faster on WinXP than on Ubuntu. Was it the latest of each? i.e. Ubuntu

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Bailey James E.
Am 12.11.2008 um 21:02 schrieb Jonathan Kulp: Francisco Vila wrote: 2008/11/12 Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the sake of testing, I booted into my Vista Home Premium partition and installed the latest Lilypond binary from the download page. I ran a lilypond file once and it took

em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Nick Payne
I attempted to use an em dash on some fingerings. Two problems: 1. It causes the font size of the fingering number to increase by about 50% 2. There is a space between the em and the 1 See attached png, which is the output from \version 2.11.63 \relative c'' { c-1 c^\markup

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Hajo Dezelski
It was Ubuntu 8.10 but XP SP2 and I took the time measure from Lilypond. Of course I ran the tests several times. On XP I only ran the necessary processes and the compile times were stable. Ubuntu was right out of the box and compile times differed. I switched back to XP for it was easier for me

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Bailey James E. wrote: Your answer has one tip (also mentioned previously in this thread) that I haven't tried--I haven't deleted the fontconfig cache. I'll try to find it, delete, reinstall, and run again to see if it improves performance. That would slow it down. Lilypond creates the

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Could any of you Vista users, try to run LilyPond from the command line with the --verbose flag, to see what step of the compilation process takes most time? /Mats Quoting Jonathan Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tim Slattery wrote: Carl Sorensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 545 Defect Verified

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Tim Reeves
I also run Win Xp SP2 on my laptop (work provided) which is where I usually run Lilypond (typical .ly file compile times are about 5+/-2 seconds from my memory), but I have a Vista machine (newer, wife uses mainly) and an older machine running Ubuntu for now at home. I want to get her used to

Vertical spacing between the lyrics of two different verses

2008-11-12 Thread Simon Art
Hi all, another beginner's question: if a TTBB vocal score is polyphonic, and two staves, each containing two voices, are in one system, it might be necessary to assign lyrics (i.e. two or three verses) to each voice. Then, two voices, let's say lyrics for Tenor 2 and Bass 1, are between the two

Re: em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Bailey James E.
Am 12.11.2008 um 21:43 schrieb Nick Payne: I attempted to use an em dash on some fingerings. Two problems: 1. It causes the font size of the fingering number to increase by about 50% 2. There is a space between the em and the 1 See attached png, which is the output from \version 2.11.63

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A more idiomatic way to do it: Nice. This gives me the following snippet: % \ifDefined #'symbol % Returns the music expression defined by symbol, % or a void expression if symbol has not been defined. ifDefined = #(define-music-function

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Johan Vromans
Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:28:37PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: What I'm trying to achieve is to have input lines processed selectively based on whether certain symbols are defined. Umm, use \tag? I use this for other purposes: allMusic = {

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 05:28:37PM +0100, Johan Vromans wrote: What I'm trying to achieve is to have input lines processed selectively based on whether certain symbols are defined.

Re: em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Alexander Kobel
Bailey James E. wrote: Curious, I wonder how those dashes are produced. On a macintosh, en and em dashes can be easily inserted with option,- or option, shift,-. See the attached output. Where I tried using the en and em dashes produced just by normal utf-8. Use \relative c''

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Francisco Vila
2008/11/12 Bailey James E. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That would slow it down. Lilypond creates the fontconfig cache the first time it runs. Deleting it would mean that lilypond would need to recreate it, thus increasing processing time. ... only once, the first time. Right? -- Francisco Vila.

Re: em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/11/13 Alexander Kobel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Use \relative c'' {c4^\markup{\finger{\char ##x2014 1}}} or \relative c'' {c4^\markup{\finger{\concat{\char ##x2014 1 respectively; \finger only applies to one argument. ... And anyway, I don't think the font includes the dash,

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Rob Pratt
Carl Sorensen c_sorensen at byu.edu writes: Have you checked that it's slow the _second_ time you run a file? It will be slow the first time it runs because it needs to build a font cache, but successive times should not be slow. Please let us know if it stays slow. Slow every time.

Re: LilyPond is excessively slow on Windows Vista

2008-11-12 Thread Rob Pratt
Mats Bengtsson mats.bengtsson at ee.kth.se writes: Could any of you Vista users, try to run LilyPond from the command line with the --verbose flag, to see what step of the compilation process takes most time? Building font database is the time-consuming part.

Re: em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Use \relative c'' {c4^\markup{\finger{\char ##x2014 1}}} or \relative c'' {c4^\markup{\finger{\concat{\char ##x2014 1 respectively; \finger only applies to one argument. ... And anyway, I don't think the font includes the dash, so my guess is that it reverts to

Re: Vertical spacing between the lyrics of two different verses

2008-11-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/11/13 Simon Art [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Does anybody know how I can increase the vertical spacing only between the lyrics of these two different voices ? Within the same voice, the vertical spacing between the different verses should stay the same as before. I use template like this

Re: Scheme question: symbol to music

2008-11-12 Thread Roman Stawski
Johan This is the sort of thing I was playing with earlier on this year. Take a look at http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?u=1id=493 This lets you have constructs such as \ifTargetIn #'(foo) { ... } In this case the symbols are switched on/off on the command-line but you could always change

Re: em dash problems

2008-11-12 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Nick, 1. is easy: You could use c^\markup {\finger {\char ##x2014 1}} or c^\markup {\finger \char ##x2014 \finger 1} Thomas I attempted to use an em dash on some fingerings. Two problems: 1. It causes the font size of the fingering number to increase by about 50% 2. There is a