Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Can you please say more precisely where this is in NR 2.7 - I can't find it. Trevor - Original Message - From: David Stocker dstoc...@thenotesetter.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:08 AM Subject: Discrepancy in documentation, ...from

Re: error in the manuals

2008-12-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Chip The changes to use lists for nested overrides were made between 2.11.64 and 2.11.65, so these examples will fail on versions earlier than 2.11.65. The docs are always compiled with the latest released version, currently 2.11.65. Trevor - Original Message - From: chip

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Simon Bailey wrote Monday, December 15, 2008 10:00 AM another (minor discrepancy): in the cheat sheet (NR appendix C), the third last command is \context ChordNames. clicking on the snippet, however, shows that the snippet is generated using \chords { }. don't know if that's confusing or

Re: Explicit durations in Lyrics behaving strangely

2008-12-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Quoting Peter Chubb lily.u...@chubb.wattle.id.au: Hi, I'm trying to use the Adeste Fideles tune from Mutopia http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=367 I ran convert-ly on it. It uses explicit durations on the lyrics. I see many warnings: adeste.ly:94:18: warning:

Re: Harmonics w/ Regular Notes

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Dave Bellows wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I recommend a\harmonic 4 It's probably mentioned in Articulations, and is certainly mentioned in the section on Unfretted strings. The way that strings notate artificial harmonics is a

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Simon J Mackenzie
\version 2.11.65 Segmentfaults with either command lilypond lorca.ly lilypond -V lorca.ly Simon On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:25:37 -0600, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com said: Nicolas Sceaux wrote: I'll try to investigate it soon. Currently my problem is that I can't reproduce these bus

Explicit durations in Lyrics behaving strangely

2008-12-15 Thread Peter Chubb
Hi, I'm trying to use the Adeste Fideles tune from Mutopia http://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/piece-info.cgi?id=367 I ran convert-ly on it. It uses explicit durations on the lyrics. I see many warnings: adeste.ly:94:18: warning: Lyric syllable does not have note. Use \lyricsto or

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Simon J Mackenzie wrote: \version 2.11.65 Segmentfaults with either command lilypond lorca.ly lilypond -V lorca.ly Simon Thanks for testing, Simon. I tried the -V flag as soon as I read your post but it still segfaulted for me, too. What you said about the \addlyrics command interests

Re: Explicit durations in Lyrics behaving strangely

2008-12-15 Thread James E. Bailey
You could end up with misplaced lyrics that you don't notice until later. You can probably just add \lyricsto verbaone (verbatwo, verbathree) between the \new Lyrics and \verbaone Am 15.12.2008 um 11:05 schrieb Peter Chubb: Hi, I'm trying to use the Adeste Fideles tune from

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Nicolas Sceaux wrote: I'll try to investigate it soon. Currently my problem is that I can't reproduce these bus errors or seg faults on my machine. Jon, I have problems untaring your archive, only cancioncilla.ly gets untared, can you check if something is wrong with lorca.tar? nicolas

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/15/08 2:52 AM, Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: Can you please say more precisely where this is in NR 2.7 - I can't find it. david is referring to appendix B.2: Common chord modifiers. (found after following all the

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
\chords is shorthand for \new ChordNames \chordmode, as is described in the NR. Carl On 12/15/08 3:00 AM, Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com wrote: hi, another (minor discrepancy): in the cheat sheet (NR appendix C), the third last command is \context ChordNames. clicking on the snippet,

Re: Harmonics w/ Regular Notes

2008-12-15 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Sunday 14 December 2008, Graham Percival wrote: I recommend a\harmonic 4 It's probably mentioned in Articulations, and is certainly mentioned in the section on Unfretted strings. The way that strings notate artificial harmonics is a e'\harmonic4 but I don't know if that's

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I had trouble, too, when I tried downloading it from my site. I think my admin doesn't allow serving of .tar files. Try this one: http://dl4.louisiana.edu/lorca.tar Run lilypond on the lorca.ly file and see

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I had trouble, too, when I tried downloading it from my site. I think my admin doesn't allow serving of .tar files. Try this one: http://dl4.louisiana.edu/lorca.tar Run lilypond on the

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I had trouble, too, when I tried downloading it from my site. I think my admin doesn't allow serving of

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Simon J Mackenzie
I'm using Kubuntu Linux 8.04 Hardy Heron KDE 3.5.10 Linux Kernel 2.6.24-22 generic (i386) Simon On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:06:35 -0600, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com said: Patrick McCarty wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I had

utility: makedepend_ly

2008-12-15 Thread CJ Bell
Attached it a python script I wrote to construct dependencies for LilyPond. It works like makedepend and has similar command line options. One thing to note is that this script searches for included files in the same directory as the _current_ file being processed instead of only in the directory

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Simon Bailey
hi, another (minor discrepancy): in the cheat sheet (NR appendix C), the third last command is \context ChordNames. clicking on the snippet, however, shows that the snippet is generated using \chords { }. don't know if that's confusing or not (i've never had to use the cheat sheet and

Re: utility: makedepend_ly

2008-12-15 Thread CJ Bell
Fixed a bug. I forgot how prerequisites work in make. Example Makefile: DEPENDS = .depends DEPLINKS = .depends_ln MAKEDEPEND = ./makedepend_ly SRCS = fullscore.ly parts.ly all: full parts depend: $(SRCS) $(MAKEDEPEND) -f$(DEPENDS) -o.ps --linkspaces=$(DEPLINKS) $(SRCS) clean:

change barnumber in the layout block

2008-12-15 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear lilypondusers, is it possible to change the first barnumber in the layoutblock? I tried it with: \layout { \context { \Score \set currentBarNumber #115 } } but without succes. Is there another possibilitie? ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Harmonics w/ Regular Notes

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Dave Bellows wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: I recommend a\harmonic 4 It's probably mentioned in Articulations, and is certainly mentioned in the section on Unfretted strings. The way that strings notate artificial harmonics is a

Re: utility: makedepend_ly

2008-12-15 Thread CJ Bell
Final version. ? Added options: -i (include), -p (object prefix), and fixed -a (append) Sorry for the many update messages -cj #!/usr/local/bin/python # written by CJ Bell Create dependencies in makefiles for LilyPond scripts Usage: makedepend_ly [options] files... Options: -h /

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Simon J Mackenzie wrote: I'm using Kubuntu Linux 8.04 Hardy Heron KDE 3.5.10 Linux Kernel 2.6.24-22 generic (i386) Simon Run lilypond on the lorca.ly file and see what happens. I am able to compile this file successfully. Processing seemed normal, and there were only three types of

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Simon Bailey
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: Can you please say more precisely where this is in NR 2.7 - I can't find it. david is referring to appendix B.2: Common chord modifiers. (found after following all the links i could find in NR 2.7... ;)). the modifier should probably

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread James E . Bailey
I just realise that I never sent my file publicly, to see if anyone else gets the bus error. Here is mine, along with terminal output. I'm using OSX 10.4 intel http://pastebin.com/f1a3a6fc0 -- score http://pastebin.com/fe002d69 -- verbose output Am 14.12.2008 um 20:29 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:

my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread chip
I am working on a piece but am coming up with a problem - my lily file creates a score and 6 separate horn parts. When I run the file through the interpreter I get 3 errors: Interpreting music... [8] Por Esa Calle Vive - score.ly:51:0: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/2 R1*2 Por Esa Calle Vive

Re: my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread Neil Thornock
I think we'd need to browse your code to answer this question... timing problems can sometimes be a trick to isolate. -- Neil Thornock, D.M. Assistant Professor of Music Composition/Theory Brigham Young University http://neilthornock.net ___

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com wrote: Well, score one for Windows, I guess. I ran the file successfully on Windows Vista just now. Maybe I should try it with a newer Linux kernel since Patrick compiled it successfully with kernel 2.6.27.8. I'll look

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Tim Reeves
Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 07:01:36 -0800 From: Patrick McCarty pnor...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts To: Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Message-ID:

Re: my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 15.12.2008 um 18:16 schrieb chip: I am working on a piece but am coming up with a problem - my lily file creates a score and 6 separate horn parts. When I run the file through the interpreter I get 3 errors: Interpreting music... [8] Por Esa Calle Vive - score.ly:51:0: warning: barcheck

Re: my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread chip
I've pasted the piece in below. -- Chip Neil Thornock wrote: I think we'd need to browse your code to answer this question... timing problems can sometimes be a trick to isolate. % LilyPond \include english.ly \version 2.11.65 \header{ title = Por Esa Calle Vive composer = Recorded by:

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM On 12/15/08 2:52 AM, Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: Can you please say more precisely where this is in NR 2.7 - I can't find it. david is referring to appendix B.2: Common chord

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread David Stocker
Trevor, I'll have a look tonight and share any feedback I have. Thanks, Dave Trevor Daniels wrote: Carl, you wrote Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM On 12/15/08 2:52 AM, Simon Bailey bina...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:46 AM, Trevor Daniels wrote: Can you please say more

Re: my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread Alard de Boer
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:41 PM, chip c...@wiegand.org wrote: I've pasted the piece in below. -- Chip Hi Chip, % -- Trumpet 1-- trpta = \relative c''' { [overrides deleted] a4 g8 f a4 f8 fs g1 R1 gs8. gs16 r16 gs8 gs16 gs8. gs16 r16 gs8 gs16 a1 f8 e f fs g-. a bf b? c1 R1

Re: my score is messed up but the parts it creates are ok

2008-12-15 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Montag, 15. Dezember 2008 22:10:26 schrieb Alard de Boer: ...here (also in bari and trombone) the 2/4 measure is the 12th measure. Exactly, that's the issue. That's also the reason why I put a | % 7 at the end of each measure (so I get warnings if I put in wrong durations for some of the

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 12/15/08 12:48 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl, you wrote Monday, December 15, 2008 2:39 PM I've fixed the original error identified by David, added the default Dominant thirteenth, and replaced some TODOs with what I hope are correct chord descriptions. On this

Re: Stemless and metrum-free notes

2008-12-15 Thread Neil Puttock
[copying to -user] 2008/12/11 zu...@ics.cas.cz: Dear Sir, it is marvelous. For whole day, I am now reading through the manual and indeed I started to love this system! However, my intended use is specialized one. I am making the critical edition of gregorian chant, which then should be

Re: Segmentation fault on file with bookparts

2008-12-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: See http://www.mail-archive.com/bug-lilyp...@gnu.org/msg13523.html If you could build with debug symbols and provide a backtrace, and/or run lilypond with valgrind, it might help debug it. Cheers, - Graham Graham, I've never used tools like this before and can't

Re: change barnumber in the layout block

2008-12-15 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
Dear lilypondusers, is it possible to change the first barnumber in the layoutblock? I tried it with: \layout { \context { \Score \set currentBarNumber #115 } } but without succes. Is there another possibilitie? It does mork if you write the command inside the music.

Re: timeSig and clef changes

2008-12-15 Thread Gilles THIBAULT
Dear lilypond-users, I found out that in a timeig-context the time-signature too far on the left side, if there are clef-changes. In the below quoted snippet the second score-block looks good, but the first doesn't. How can I avoid it? Thanks for Your help! Stefan \version 2.11.60

Vertical spacing of text and glyphs in a \mark

2008-12-15 Thread David Stocker
I'm trying to get Coda markings to come out right. What I want is for the words To Coda to be printed just to the left of a coda symbol. I'm almost there, but the text is too high. Is there a way to move the text down, independent of the coda symbol, so that it's about centered horizontally?

Re: Vertical spacing of text and glyphs in a \mark

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Polesky
Dave, Try this: \markup \line \general-align #Y #CENTER { \small \bold \italic To Coda \musicglyph #scripts.coda } - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Discrepancy in documentation,

2008-12-15 Thread Simon Bailey
On 15 Dec 2008, at 22:22, Carl D. Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: Actually, I'm not the right guy to check. I'm a chord novice, which is why the table I originally put together only had some of the sevenths. Somebody like Simon would be a much better content checker than me. heh. carl,

Re: Vertical spacing of text and glyphs in a \mark

2008-12-15 Thread David Stocker
A useful tool indeed. Thanks Mark! Mark Polesky wrote: Dave, Try this: \markup \line \general-align #Y #CENTER { \small \bold \italic To Coda \musicglyph #scripts.coda } - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list

diff music

2008-12-15 Thread CJ Bell
Is there an existing function to diff two pieces of music? (or has anyone attempted to write such a function?) ex: \diff \partA \partB Perhaps notes that partB adds are tagged one way and notes that are removed from partA are tagged another. I want to color unchanged music from partA to partB

Re: diff music

2008-12-15 Thread Mark Polesky
CJ Bell wrote: \diff \partA \partB What an awesome idea! Can anyone figure this one out? That would be such a useful tool. - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: diff music

2008-12-15 Thread David Stocker
I feel compelled to write that this is what is so special about the open-source ethos in general. When hundreds of people are involved (maybe not with LilyPond, which is a small project by comparison) in making something, invariably there is a more robust, more divergent crop of ideas which

Notation Reference typo

2008-12-15 Thread Andrew Tucker
In the 2.11 NR, section 3.5.1 Creating Midi Files, under Instrument Names there's an example: \set Staff.midiInstrument = glockenspiel which I believe needs to be changed to: (add a '#') \set Staff.midiInstrument = #glockenspiel ___