Re: vim vagaries

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Breed
J. wrote: I looked at the directions on the lilypond site for setting it up but, because of my noviciate I got confused with all the places and symbols. I found a page here: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-program/Vim-mode It isn't clear which of those things you

Re: chord names in piano staff

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Chubb
henrik == henrik pantle pan...@gmx.de writes: henrik hi, i wonder where to find the solution for my problem. i henrik guess a lot of others do too. henrik i want the chord names above the piano staff: You need to add a score block thus: guitarChords = \chordmode { ...} upper = \relative {

Re: Orphaned and widowed lines in \markuplines

2009-11-11 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 10 nov. 2009 à 07:19, David Kastrup a écrit : Nicolas Sceaux nicolas.sce...@free.fr writes: Le 9 nov. 2009 à 11:10, Jiri Zurek (Prague) a écrit : It happens to my scores that when using \markuplines for long texts (more than a page), Lilypond leaves a first or a last line orphaned

Double/Combination Trills

2009-11-11 Thread grammerfest
Hi all, I can't find any mention of an implementation of double or combination trill in the docs anywhere. Has anyone found a way to implement these (trills with two or more notes other than the principal note)? many thanks, piaras -- View this message in context:

upgrading

2009-11-11 Thread Gerard McConnell
Hi, Perhaps a stupid question - is there any reason NOT to upgrade from 2.12.x to 2.13.7? Thanks, Gerard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: upgrading

2009-11-11 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/11/11 Gerard McConnell gerry...@indigo.ie: Hi, Perhaps a stupid question -  is there any reason NOT to upgrade from 2.12.x  to 2.13.7? Possibly. 2.13.7 could have changes in syntax, or experimental features. It worths it if you want to help testing it. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)

Re: vim vagaries

2009-11-11 Thread Jethro Van Thuyne
Hi Jonathan, It's not to easy to find the right locations indeed, perhaps this might help. First you have to edit a file called filetype.vim, located in /home/yourusername/.vim/ If it isn't there, you can just create it: touch /home/yourusername/.vim/filetype.vim If the .vim directory

Re: upgrading

2009-11-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 12:13:49 schrieb Gerard McConnell: Hi, Perhaps a stupid question - is there any reason NOT to upgrade from 2.12.x to 2.13.7? If you are adjusting the vertical layout (staff spacing, padding etc.), then things will

chordSymbols, arbitrary chord markup

2009-11-11 Thread VáclavŠmilauer
Hi, I use \chordSymbols hack (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=608) in my jazz charts and although, it works quite well in normal cases, it has some limitations: you can't write C phryg or combination of 6,7,9,11,13 not in the font etc. I read threads on jazz chords on this list as well

octave

2009-11-11 Thread Francesco Petrogalli
Hi, a friend send me a score written with encore, I am porting it in lilypond. This score has 4 instruments, a sax, a cello and two pianos. Now, the part of the first piano has to be played an octave higher the what is written on the score, so the guy who has written it with encore has placed an

Re: octave

2009-11-11 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hi. Now, the part of the first piano has to be played an octave higher the what is written on the score, so the guy who has written it with encore has placed an 8 over the clefs of the piano staves. Is this a standard way to specify to play an octave higher? If yes, how can I do this with

Re: octave

2009-11-11 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Use \set Staff.clefOctavation = #7 in the octavated staff See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Displaying-pitches for details. Bert Francesco Petrogalli wrote: Hi, a friend send me a score written with encore, I am porting it in lilypond. This score has 4

Re: Quit

2009-11-11 Thread craigbakalian
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 00:44 -0500, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: Also, the complaint here isn't that there's some inherent defect in the program or the documentation, rather that you didn't want to take the time to learn how to use lilypond when you could do it in sibelius

Re: series of up'n'down bows: /\\//\\/

2009-11-11 Thread -Eluze
user28 wrote: is it possible to make they more compact? with \textLengthOn you can make sure the next note or barline is starting when the text has been written. additionally you can move the starting position of your bows (which i replaced with \dmarcato) to the right if needed. {

Re: chordSymbols, arbitrary chord markup

2009-11-11 Thread Robin Bannister
Václav Šmilauer wrote: other than using \markup{...} in lyrics context for every single chord If your needs are met by (a possibly modifed) ChordNames most of the time, you can use replaceCN to deal with the impossible cases.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Craig (et al.), I must say that the faster thing is a typical United States behavior. Whether or not it started in the USA, it's a worldwide phenomenon now. =) [Disclosure: I'm Canadian.] Our markets and media constantly barrage us with time issues. I think maybe convenience is a

Re: temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-11 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear community, I have a last question. Why is the shortInstrumentName for Violin one solo not shown? Here the snippet: \version 2.12.2 violineA = \context Staff =ViolineA { \set Staff.instrumentName = Violine 1 \set Staff.shortInstrumentName=Vlne.1 c'' 4 d'' e'' f'' g'' a'' b''

Re: quit

2009-11-11 Thread Leonardo Herrera
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Erik Appeldoorn ursus.k...@ziggo.nl wrote: [...] On the plus I found, good looking scores, very flexible On the minus I found, very tedious, time-consuming and heavily relying on work-arounds. Hope this will give some inside. I won't say I'll never try again,

Re: temporary staff for divisi

2009-11-11 Thread Simon Bailey
figured this one out: On 11 Nov 2009, at 14:56, Stefan Thomas wrote: I have a last question. Why is the shortInstrumentName for Violin one solo not shown? because the staff only just started. lily puts the instrumentName at the beginning of the first line of a staff. (naïve explanation,

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Craig (et al.), I must say that the faster thing is a typical United States behavior. Whether or not it started in the USA, it's a worldwide phenomenon now. =) [Disclosure: I'm Canadian.] It is too cheap to put this down to

Re: modern accidentals rule

2009-11-11 Thread Hudson Flávio Meneses Lacerda
Frédéric Bron wrote: BTW, I have found a strange behaviour of modern accidentals rule: LilyPond considers volta alternatives as previous measure. Is this correct? (Note the natural sign at the 2nd and 3rd alternatives, not related to the previous _played_ measure.) Yes, this is known

\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-empty works only at the beginning of a score

2009-11-11 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
It seems that overriding #'remove-empty for Staff.VerticalAxisGroup has only an effect if it is called prior to the first note of the staff. Any \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-empty = ##t (or ##f) after the first note does not have any effect. Now, this is a problem, if the whole

Re: chordSymbols, arbitrary chord markup

2009-11-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/11/09 4:51 AM, VáclavŠmilauer eudo...@arcig.cz wrote: Hi, I use \chordSymbols hack (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=608) in my jazz charts and although, it works quite well in normal cases, it has some limitations: you can't write C phryg or combination of 6,7,9,11,13 not in

Re: \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-empty works only at the beginning of a score

2009-11-11 Thread Nicolas Sceaux
Le 11 nov. 2009 à 16:07, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit : Now, this is a problem, if the whole score consists of several different parts. For example, I have a choral score with fugues and a soprano solo. during the fugues, none of the staves should be removed (if e.g. the Alto sets in 9

A barline half length long

2009-11-11 Thread Jiri Zurek (Prague)
Given that scheme calculations may be passed to the barLine bar-size property, I was attempting to draw a barLine which would be only a half length long vertically. When the size of the score is constant, it is not difficult to hard-code a specific bar-size, but since I use several staff sizes,

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, It is too cheap to put this down to faster. The problem is not that you need longer to do some things with Lilypond initially. The problem is that there is a large number of things for which there is no proper way to do them at all, and you have to take out the crowbar. As is

Re: series of up'n'down bows: /\\//\\/

2009-11-11 Thread user28
ok. cool. thanks for the tip. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/series-of-up%27n%27down-bows%3A---%5C%5C--%5C%5C--tp26295691p26304439.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: A barline half length long

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jiri Zurek (Prague) zu...@ics.cas.cz writes: \once \override Staff.BarLine #'bar-size = #(* ly:bar-line::calc-bar-size 0.5) \bar | Try something like \once \override Staff.BarLine #'bar-size = #(lambda(x) (* 0.5 (ly:bar-line::calc-bar-size x))) \bar | It is probably possible to fabricate

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
I don't see the now definitely O/T you put in the subject line. The subject was that somebody quit, and we are talking about the reasons. Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: It is too cheap to put this down to faster. The problem is not that you need longer to do some

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: [...] I don't see the now definitely O/T you put in the subject line. The subject was that somebody quit, and we are talking about the reasons. [...] It is too cheap to put this down to faster. The problem is not that you need longer

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
I'm not topposting Third attempt because of topposting automoderation -- this _is_ a nuisance. Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: [...] I don't see the now definitely O/T you put in the subject line. The subject was that somebody quit, and we are talking about the

Re: A barline half length long

2009-11-11 Thread Robin Bannister
Jiri Zurek wrote: What is wrong with my syntax, please? ly:bar-line::calc-bar-size needs a parameter. If you get used to writing things like \override Staff.BarLine #'bar-size = #ly:bar-line::calc-bar-size you think that is all you ever need to say. But the functions for grob

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, I think that sums up very well why somebody would prefer not working with Lilypond. Not only do you have to rely on expert advice, but the main advice is please do what an expert would do, or shut up. Please show me where I said anything resembling shut up...? I'm sorry if you

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Sorry for the post in triplicate. Gmane's response time confused me. Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, I think that sums up very well why somebody would prefer not working with Lilypond. Not only do you have to rely on expert advice, but the main advice is

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:11:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: I couldn't agree more! [See Steps 12, above.] I think that sums up very well why somebody would prefer not working with Lilypond. Not only do you have to rely on expert

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:12:44PM +, Graham Percival wrote: Other than kidnap + torture, of course. I might vote for this, but it strikes me that it might cause long-term problems... Addendum: I don't know the details that you want, so torturing me won't help. I'd *like* to know those

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, [By the way, since it's apparently open season on posting style criticism: your consistent lack of salutation and valediction in your posts makes you seem rude, curt, and above all patronizing.] Reasonable entails a collective effort not to repeat avoidable work and

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:11:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: But if there is roadmap, design and vision, I have not yet been able to find it in the obvious places I have been looking for. The information for developers is the CG. The

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (and anyone else who makes it here, wondering how to find the CG), The manuals don't tell anything about CG, where it is, what it does. URL:http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ does not tell. There is no directory of that name in the distribution. Step 1: Go to home page.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 08:47:33PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: The information for developers is the CG. The manuals don't tell anything about CG, where it is, what it does. URL:http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ does not tell.

Re: Quit

2009-11-11 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op woensdag 11-11-2009 om 20:08 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef David Kastrup: As we both (all) know, there IS a reasonable way to become an expert at Lilypond No. A _reasonable_ way to become an expert is by reading into increasingly more expert-level documentation and working with it.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:01:33PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Step 3: Click on Documentation for LilyPond 2.13 (latest development) [since you're going to be helping with development, this is the logical choice]. Location: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/ Not the general

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi David (and anyone else who makes it here, wondering how to find the CG), The manuals don't tell anything about CG, where it is, what it does. URL:http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/ does not

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, the more available/obvious choice would be to make the new website the main one. Currently, that's waiting on: - 2-5 hours of texinfo file editing I just pulled a new origin/master from git. Today, I've got upwards of 3 hours to code: what do you want me to work on? Cheers,

Re: upgrading

2009-11-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.11.2009, at 12:13, Gerard McConnell wrote: Hi, Perhaps a stupid question - is there any reason NOT to upgrade from 2.12.x to 2.13.7? Thanks, Gerard I tend to work from the if it ain't broke, don't fix it principle. So, unless there's something fundamentally broken that you

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi David, [By the way, since it's apparently open season on posting style criticism: your consistent lack of salutation and valediction in your posts makes you seem rude, curt, and above all patronizing.] Perfectly accurate.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 11/11/09 12:12 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:11:26PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: But if there is roadmap, design and vision, I have not yet been able to find it in the obvious places I have been looking for. The information for

Re: Quit

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl writes: Also seen several times are people sending /lots/ of questions, be it users or developers, and after everything has been answered, the user quits or potential developers says she has no time or does not thing she is up for it after all. If the

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:19:37PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Graham, - 2-5 hours of texinfo file editing I just pulled a new origin/master from git. Today, I've got upwards of 3 hours to code: what do you want me to work on? The first thing that comes to mind is Alternate input.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, Where does the GDP document the meaning of the acronym GDP? Here's one place (of many): http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding It does not say what kind of code to put where for what reason.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Jonathan Kulp jonlancek...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi David (and anyone else who makes it here, wondering how to find the CG), The manuals don't tell anything about CG, where it is, what it

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 03:53:11PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: It does not tell you what language/classes/operations to use to implement what kind of task. OK, then submit a feature request — rant on -user does not count — and maybe someone in the know will help out. No, please don't.

Re: Quit

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 09:49:28PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Jan Nieuwenhuizen janneke-l...@xs4all.nl writes: Also seen several times are people sending /lots/ of questions, be it users or developers, and after everything has been answered, the user quits or potential developers says

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Graham, The first thing that comes to mind is Alternate input. Documentation/general/introduction.texi @node Alternate input I have to mao-ing learn TEXI now? So much for your 2-5 hours estimate... Still-doing-it-but-thinking-there's-almost-definitely-a-better-way, Kieren.

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
David, Thanks for your willingness to articulate some concerns. I think that your careful thinking can be of real help to the LilyPond community, expecially if you can help us make things better. On 11/11/09 7:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Kieren MacMillan

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 04:05:59PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: The first thing that comes to mind is Alternate input. Documentation/general/introduction.texi @node Alternate input I have to mao-ing learn TEXI now? So much for your 2-5 hours estimate... I stand by my 2-5 hours of editing

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: David, Thanks for your willingness to articulate some concerns. I think that your careful thinking can be of real help to the LilyPond community, expecially if you can help us make things better. Thanks for putting up with me. On 11/11/09 7:21 AM,

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Werner LEMBERG
@node Alternate input I have to mao-ing learn TEXI now? What's the problem here? If you don't want to do nifty things it's just a quite simple markup language. And since there has already been written a lot of TEXI documentation for lilypond I'm quite sure that you find examples for almost

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:33 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: \spannerText rit. b1\startTextSpan e,\stopTextSpan What is wrong with b1\startSpan rit. e,\stopSpan ?  Why force meddling with an internal variable in the first place?  You need the text anyway, why not make it part of

Manually place a clef object?

2009-11-11 Thread Peter Kaplan
When a repeated section begins in one clef and ends in another (as in the Basso Continuo part I'm working on), it would be nice to be able to add a reminder clef at the end of the repeated section, to alert the player to return to the original clef when the repeat sign is reached. This behavior

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Werner, What's the problem here? The problem is that I come to Lilypond with a skill set — specifically, many years of Java+Javascript+(X)HTML+XSL(T)+CSS+(La) TeX experience — which should be more than adequate for any modern documentation project involving a WWW component. I want to

documentation formats

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 05:47:28PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Werner, What's the problem here? The problem is that I come to Lilypond with a skill set — specifically, many years of Java+Javascript+(X)HTML+XSL(T)+CSS+(La)TeX experience — which should be more than adequate for any

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Joe Neeman
On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 22:33 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: The code to establish a ritardando could be easily written, and may (or may not) be done as part of the forthcoming GLISS (Grand LilyPond Input Syntax Stabilization) project. There's currently

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Tim McNamara
On Nov 11, 2009, at 11:29 AM, David Kastrup wrote: For me, this situation is awkward, impeding and dissatisfactory. For others, it is reason to go away. I don't see that anything is gained for chastising me for my impression. That is merely shooting the messenger. Actually, more than the

Re:Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Things like ritardando can't be found in the notation index and are programmed something like      Some performance indications, e.g., rallentando or accelerando, are      written as text and are extended over multiple notes with dotted lines.      Such objects, called spanners,

Re: chordSymbols, arbitrary chord markup

2009-11-11 Thread TaoCG
VáclavŠmilauer wrote: I use \chordSymbols hack (http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=608) in my jazz charts and although, it works quite well in normal cases, it has some limitations: you can't write C phryg or combination of 6,7,9,11,13 not in the font etc. C phryg doesn't exist, true,

Re: documentation formats

2009-11-11 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, If we did stuff in plain html, we'd lose the pdf docs. If we did stuff in plain latex, we'd lose the html docs (without a lot of tweaking). Both would lose the info docs, which IMO wouldn't be terrible, but some people seem to like. I don't even know what the info docs are, so

Re: documentation formats

2009-11-11 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 06:39:26PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Graham, If we did stuff in plain html, we'd lose the pdf docs. If we did stuff in plain latex, we'd lose the html docs (without a lot of tweaking). Both would lose the info docs, which IMO wouldn't be terrible, but some

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread Carl Sorensen
David, I appreciate your persistence in this. I think that you are having part of the difficulty in this conversation because it's on -user, not on -devel. The modifications to anything except input files (which use lilypond code and embedded scheme) really involve knowledge that's primarily

Re: documentation formats

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 05:47:28PM -0500, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Werner, What's the problem here? The problem is that I come to Lilypond with a skill set — specifically, many years of Java+Javascript+(X)HTML+XSL(T)+CSS+(La)TeX experience —

Re: documentation formats

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi Graham, If we did stuff in plain html, we'd lose the pdf docs. If we did stuff in plain latex, we'd lose the html docs (without a lot of tweaking). Both would lose the info docs, which IMO wouldn't be terrible, but some people seem

Re: Manually place a clef object?

2009-11-11 Thread James E. Bailey
On 11.11.2009, at 22:37, Peter Kaplan wrote: When a repeated section begins in one clef and ends in another (as in the Basso Continuo part I'm working on), it would be nice to be able to add a reminder clef at the end of the repeated section, to alert the player to return to the original

version 0.0.0-0

2009-11-11 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, http://lilypond.org/web/install/ is showing version numbers 0.0.0-0 instead of 2.13.7-1 for the development branch. This is not the first time this has happened, so I guess there is someone who will fix this. -- Martin ___ lilypond-user

Re: Quit [now definitely O/T]

2009-11-11 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: David, I appreciate your persistence in this. I think that you are having part of the difficulty in this conversation because it's on -user, not on -devel. The modifications to anything except input files (which use lilypond code and embedded