musicxml2ly output indentation style

2013-11-14 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
Hi, The lilypond output that is produced from musicxml2ly uses another indentation style than I see in my own scores when using for example Vim or Frescobaldi, or in all examples in the Lilypond documentation. for example: %commonly used style music = \relative c' { a b c d }

Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, this has just appeared: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 is (nearly) exactly what we have to do (OK, we don't have to manually drag rests to an appropriate place but let

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread flup2
It would be a great idea (although I haven't idea about the way to implement it into LilyPond). But I noticed how ugly the tremelo-notehead collision is, with Finale 2014 default settings ;-) Philippe -- View this message in context:

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my choral transcriptions. Best, Jan-Peter Am

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:16, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs, there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. To me it seems, that finale learned from lilypond ;) I adapted it and integrated it in my own always-to-load-extensions and use it in all my

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Urs Liska
Am 14.11.2013 11:08, schrieb Karl Hammar: Urs Liska: Does anybody have an idea how one could improve this situation for LilyPond? You have to be more specific, what is it you want ? I'm not wanting anything specific, just raise this issue. It seems that there already _is_ a solution, so

Re: Broken brackets for annotations

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 14.11.2013 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Here is what I coded: Not really. You are mixing note languages in here; this would never have worked. Please test your examples before posting. Now the last f,, should be marked with a broken bracket to be

Re: Broken brackets for annotations

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 14.11.2013 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Here is what I coded: Not really. You are mixing note languages in here; this would never have worked. Please test your examples before posting. Uh, sorry, I overlooked that.

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
To be honest, the first thing my eyes went to was the tremolo notehead mess. That looks painful. The duplicate rests section didn't register with my brain until a few seconds later. I certainly prefer the 2014 look more with the merging, for sure, but my eyes didn't process that as standout

Re: Broken brackets for annotations

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Am 14.11.2013 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup: Marc Hohl m...@hohlart.de writes: Here is what I coded: Not really. You are mixing note languages in here; this would never have worked. Please test your examples before posting. Now the last f,, should be

Re: fermata and phrasing slurs

2013-11-14 Thread Gagi Petrovic
Ah yes, of course. It works now :) Thanks a lot! On 14 November 2013 00:32, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Gagi Petrovic wrote I tried your method (see below), but it still doesn't work correctly. Now the text is nicely placed under all the fermata, but i don't understand why the slur

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
David Kastrup wrote Helge Kruse lt; Helge.Kruse@ gt; writes: This interface improvement also effectively enforces top-posting: it takes extra effort to post replies in the middle of quotes (like a conversation) and most people don't care. I am in the e-mail world for some decades. It

Re: Broken brackets for annotations

2013-11-14 Thread Marc Hohl
[...] Thanks, that works better, but there is no way to code broken ligatures out-of-the-box, as shown in the picture. Ah, I misunderstood your problem: you want a ligature broken al niente: one that basically comes from nowhere, and one that breaks into nowhere. Yes, exactly. That would

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com writes: [fullquote deleted] I had no idea this was the norm. I've always been writing on top - including the previous messages below my reply for years now, which I now assume was a byproduct of working as an IT consultant as a secondary job. It feels

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread Helge Kruse
2013/11/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: I am in the e-mail world for some decades. It was always a good style to write the answer on top of all other text and to not delete anything that has written before. In a mailing list? No. Sorry, you missed one point. I wrote about mails in general.

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, What we actually want here on lilypond mailing lists is not literally bottom-posting, but inline-replying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style (yes, some people indeed use bottom posting to refer to inline replying, but this is ambiguous and therefore not helpful. I'm

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: What we actually want here on lilypond mailing lists is not literally bottom-posting, but inline-replying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style (yes, some people indeed use bottom posting to refer to inline replying, but

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Helge Kruse helge.kr...@gmx.net writes: 2013/11/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: An improvement that _does_ _not_ _scale_ is no improvement. Don't see _scale_ here, since it's not designed for mailing list, sorry. It's not designed for _any_ significantly extended exchange. I think

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
Janek Warchoł wrote Hi, What we actually want here on lilypond mailing lists is not literally bottom-posting, but inline-replying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style (yes, some people indeed use bottom posting to refer to inline replying, but this is ambiguous and

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: What we actually want here on lilypond mailing lists is not literally bottom-posting, but inline-replying: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style (yes, some people indeed use bottom

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: But I often have to do things like { \voiceOne d'4 \oneVoice r \voiceOne d' } \new Voice { \voiceTwo d4 s d } For this purpose I once wrote a function: \dual { g'4 \rr4 g' } { d'4 s d' } -- Johan rr =

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 11:16, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is a snippet in LSR: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 which did this for a long time. Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined. In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale features if the

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: For this purpose I once wrote a function: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \oneVoice #(make-music 'RestEvent 'duration dur) \voiceOne #} ) rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur)

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Joseph, Am 14.11.2013 14:45, schrieb Joseph Rushton Wakeling: Please note that multi-measure rests are not automatically combined. there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. In addition, it hardly matches the ease of the Sibelius/Finale

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 14/11/13 15:05, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: there is an update of this snippet in the mail archives and I will post my version later. Fantastic, thank you! :-) You're right, but I would take this as a proposal to add this as a standard command to lily. Yes, I agree. In fact for optimal

Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hi LilyPonders, There are two broken links in the main page http://lilypond.org/ In the very beginning, under LilyPond 2.17.95 released! November 3, 2013, there are links to Updating files with convert-ly and Bug reports. When clicking on either of them, my browser tells me 404 Not Found. Take

Re: Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Gilberto, 2013/11/14 Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com: Hi LilyPonders, There are two broken links in the main page http://lilypond.org/ In the very beginning, under LilyPond 2.17.95 released! November 3, 2013, there are links to Updating files with convert-ly and Bug reports.

Re: Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Replies directed to bug-lilypond. Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Hi LilyPonders, There are two broken links in the main page http://lilypond.org/ In the very beginning, under LilyPond 2.17.95 released! November 3, 2013, there are links to Updating files with

Re: Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/11/14 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: In the very beginning, under LilyPond 2.17.95 released! November 3, 2013, there are links to Updating files with convert-ly and Bug reports. When clicking on either of them, my browser tells me 404 Not Found. Ugh. That one's tricky as it apparently

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Johan Vromans
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER r$dur #}) but it sure looks nice(r). Do you know

Re: Gmail and quotes

2013-11-14 Thread schef
Thank you Janek for explaining this.. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Johan Vromans jvrom...@squirrel.nl writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: rr = #(define-music-function (parser location dur) (ly:duration?) #{ \tweak direction #CENTER r$dur #}) would seem saner. Thanks for the suggestion. I needed #{ \tweak #'direction #'CENTER

Re: Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Oh, and i forgot: thanks for the report, Gilberto! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Michael Rivers
I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Learn-from-Finale-2014-seriously-tp153908p153952.html

Re: Broken links on main page

2013-11-14 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Janek Warchoł wrote Oh, and i forgot: thanks for the report, Gilberto! No problems at all. And next time I will report it directly to the bug squad (I didn't know broken links would classify as such). Take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context:

transferring Lilynet

2013-11-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Valentin, since lilynet.net is dead, it would be good to transfer the archives someplace else (i've heard that you do have them?). We could probably add the articles to the lilypond blog, either as archival posts or pages. I don't know how much time i could spend on this, but i wouldn't want

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Caio Barros
2013/11/14 Michael Rivers michaeljriv...@gmail.com I've always used Phil's solution (manually placing one rest and using s for the other), but, come to think of it, it would be nice for this to be done automatically. After typing a full orchestral movement and solving the merge problem with

Re: Ligature to nothing

2013-11-14 Thread Colin Campbell
On 10/20/2013 06:08 PM, Marcos Press wrote: Hi! I'm full of questions today :D In these case, I have three times the same last ligature and when I repeat it a fourth time, it doesn't print the same before like you can see at the attached file. Why? \version 2.17.28 one = \relative

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net: I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or whatever note position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the other voices. Not that elegant, but simple. But doesn’t that play the b4 in MIDI?

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net writes: Am 2013-11-14 um 23:26 schrieb Phil Burfitt phil.burf...@talktalk.net: I may be stating the obvious...but I've always used b4\rest (or whatever note position you want the rest) in one voice and s4 in the other voices. Not that elegant, but

Re: Learn from Finale 2014 (seriously)?

2013-11-14 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Thu, 14 Nov 2013 09:52:06 +0100 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org schreef: Hi all, this has just appeared: http://www.finalemusic.com/blog/quick-peeks-at-finale-2014-consolidate-rests/ and I think what they describe as inferior behaviour in Finale 2012 is (nearly) exactly what we have to