Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Nov 26, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > > Hi all, > >>> LilyPond's chord-naming names actually played chord notes, >>> not anticipated chords. > > I, for one, am grateful there are overrides, so I can easily label chords > with a chord name

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, > Sus chords do not resolve to a diatonic major or minor in quartal harmony for > example, so for Lilypond to assume there is a resolution to a major or minor > triad would be unwise. Absolutely. But to imply that Am(sus) or Am(sus4) has no meaning ignores the reality of composition,

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread timmcn
> On Nov 26, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > >> Sus chords do not resolve to a diatonic major or minor in quartal harmony >> for example, so for Lilypond to assume there is a resolution to a major or >> minor triad would be unwise. >

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread Simon Albrecht
David, On 26.11.2015 06:40, David Wright wrote: 1) If there's a lyric extender on a lyric which is being attached to a non-melisma note, ignore it. This would often save having four sets of SATB lyrics differing only in each ones placement of extenders. This is issue 4509

Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread jx...@juno.com
Good morning. How do you create a chord name that's a minor sus? Example: \version "2.16.2" chordNames = \chordmode { \global e4.:m e:m/d a:m a:m d d:7 g2. I want the first a:m chord to be an a-minor sus. How do I make that happen? "a:m:sus" and "a:msus" and "a:m/sus" don't work. Will

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
"jx...@juno.com" writes: > Good morning. How do you create a chord name that's a minor sus? > > Example: > \version "2.16.2" > chordNames = \chordmode { > \global > e4.:m e:m/d a:m a:m d d:7 g2. > > I want the first a:m chord to be an a-minor sus. What does that mean? A

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, >> I know there is a way to have accidentals “cross-canceled” between staves in >> the same system. >> (I’ve used it… and it’s wonderful!) > > I don't; what is it? %%% SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.31" \layout { \context { \Score \accidentalStyle modern } } staffA = {

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-11-26 13:02 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : > "jx...@juno.com" writes: > >> Good morning. How do you create a chord name that's a minor sus? >> >> Example: >> \version "2.16.2" >> chordNames = \chordmode { >> \global >> e4.:m e:m/d a:m a:m d d:7 g2. >> >> I want

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (et al.) >> I want the first a:m chord to be an a-minor sus. > What does that mean? A suspended chord is one where the third is > replaced by either the second or the fourth, so there is no difference > between major and minor in a suspended chord. Only if you choose to ignore the

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-11-26 13:32 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > 2015-11-26 13:02 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : >> "jx...@juno.com" writes: >>> Example: >>> \version "2.16.2" Really? Then the proposed override will not work. Instead try: \once \override

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > As I’ve said about a dozen times on this list, there are at least two > dozen lyric-related issues which, if fixed, would represent a quantum > leap in Lilypond’s output (and a huge reduction in my manual tweaking > effort/time). > >

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David (et al.) > >>> I want the first a:m chord to be an a-minor sus. >> What does that mean? A suspended chord is one where the third is >> replaced by either the second or the fourth, so there is no difference >> between major and

Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Johanna Liska
Hi edition-engraver users, is there a way to apply an \editionMod to a grace note or acciaccatura? What would be the proper "moment" of that? Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > You'd likely be better served if you took the pain of actually > well-defining specific isolated tasks rather than hand-waving sums around. I’ve done so — outlining very explicit, specific isolated tasks — on several occasions. Didn’t seem to serve me then… but maybe it will the

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > It's not clear which issues you even mean Perhaps my post of a week ago > If you look at > you’ll see a list of other related issues. was not clear enough? If so, please explain how I can make it more explicit which issues

Re: aligning melisma and non-melisma lyrics across staves in the same system

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David (and all developers), > So there may be something like $1000 I have personally offered $1,000. Others have offered to contribute to specific issues (look at the GSoC Lyrics issues in the tracker for more specific information), so there’s already more than $1,000 pledged to

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > is there a way to apply an \editionMod to a grace note or acciaccatura? > What would be the proper "moment" of that? I’m not sure, but I would like to know! I’d also like to know how to address a partial (“pickup”) measure. I’ve asked before, but did not receive an answer. Sorry I

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi Urs, > > > is there a way to apply an \editionMod to a grace note or acciaccatura? > > What would be the proper "moment" of that? > > I’m not sure, but I would like to know! > > I’d also like to

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread David Kastrup
David Nalesnik writes: > For example, the grace moment in the following snippet (see console > display): > > \version "2.19.30" > > { > c''4 > \once \override NoteHead.after-line-breaking = > #(lambda (grob) > (display (grob::when grob)) > (newline)) > >

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.11.2015 um 15:54 schrieb David Kastrup: > David Nalesnik writes: > >> #(display (ly:make-moment 1 4 -1 8)) >> >> See the description of ly:make-moment in the IR (Scheme functions). > I'd rather write (ly:make-moment 1/4 -1/8) here. It's more readable in > my

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb David Nalesnik: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Kieren MacMillan > > > wrote: > > Hi Urs, > > > is there a way to apply an \editionMod to a grace note or > acciaccatura? >

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Urs Liska
Am 26.11.2015 um 15:57 schrieb Urs Liska: >> Is the edition engraver able to accept moments specified by >> ly:make-moment? > > I don't think so. But I assume that it produces such a moment in its > input stage. And if so I should be able to add the option. Sorry for not checking before, but

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Is the edition engraver able to accept moments specified by ly:make-moment? > If so, you can specify a moment using optional arguments. Ooh! Thanks for this! That solves a problem that has been plaguing several of my engravings ever since I began using the edition-engraver. Best,

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi there, late to the party ;) Yes, the edition-engraver waits for a moment in time! In fact all notations like 1/4 are just shortcuts, which are directly converted to a ly:make-moment statement. And of course it also accepts direct input of a moment. So, as you already noticed, you can address a

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Robert Schmaus
> But LilyPond's chord-naming names actually played chord notes, not > anticipated chords. I agree - it's not a good idea to confuse the chord with the underlying scale. If you want a minor chord sounding, then use one; you can *add* a 4th (or better 11th) to that. Best, Robert > > -- >

Re: Chord names

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, >> LilyPond's chord-naming names actually played chord notes, >> not anticipated chords. I, for one, am grateful there are overrides, so I can easily label chords with a chord name that my musicians prefer to see — in this case, a chord name which actually helps them perform better —

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jan-Peter, Thanks for the response, however late-to-the-party it came. ;) > Any point in time can be addressed with a barnumber and a moment > in that bar (=horizontal) and a context specifier (=vertical). Do you anticipate being able to add in the context-id and/or relative-moment

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Kieren, the context-id thing is in my lalily-version. There have been issues, which prevented it from appearing in openLilyLib. This relative moment feature would be a thing, I also really like to have/implement. I don't typeset that much polymetric pieces, but it would be very helpful ... I

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Jan-Peter, > the context-id thing is in my lalily-version. There have been issues, > which prevented it from appearing in openLilyLib. Anything I can test or help with? > I am going to (in contrast to "I will" ;) ) implement > this, at least work on it, before new years eve. Thanks for the

Re: Apply \editionMod to grace note

2015-11-26 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 26.11.2015 um 17:26 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Jan-Peter, > >> the context-id thing is in my lalily-version. There have been issues, >> which prevented it from appearing in openLilyLib. > > Anything I can test or help with? I have to update the branch, in which I included the change. And