Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread David Wright
On Sun 17 Jan 2016 at 12:30:57 (+0100), Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > > 17. jan. 2016 kl. 12.22 skrev Simon Albrecht : > > > > On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > >> > >> 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the > >> bounding

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
> 18. jan. 2016 kl. 02.40 skrev tim...@bitstream.net: > >> >> On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann >> wrote: >> >> While i might agree with you to some extent this is also a practial matter: >> >> 1) Whether or not you call it maj or *triangle*, m or MI

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
A properly formatet complex chord stacks alterations in parenthesis. Lilyponds default is: \version "2.19.35" \header { tagline = "" } ChordNames = \chordmode { \set majorSevenSymbol = \markup { maj7 } d:maj7.5+.9-.11+ } upper = \relative c'{ \clef G < d fis ais cis ees gis >1 }

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
There are a few musicologist, you'd be suprised how many, that comes from jazz or popular music. Yes, I'm one of them. As far as i can see this Brandt & Roemer thing is a work in progress. I'm thankfull somebody seems to be working on it! There is however much to be done before chords in

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl-Henrik, > As far as i can see this Brandt & Roemer thing is a work in progress. Indeed. > I'm thankfull somebody seems to be working on it! You’re welcome. =) > There is however much to be done before chords in Lilypond are mature enough > to use for jazz chord notation. I don’t

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Well, trolls like fish i learnt. Am 17.01.2016 21:12, schrieb Thomas Morley: 2016-01-17 20:30 GMT+01:00 Carl-Henrik Buschmann : Sorry, thought the thread was referenced. I'm wondering if lilypond is able to notate complex chords, as discussed in the before mentioned

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Blöchl, > 1. Why is Cm69 (ly) = C6/9 (BR)? Where is the "MI" gone? Is it kind of > implied? I don't see it. If you followed the thread further, you’d see that it was an error: the “MI” is, of course, supposed to be there. That error been fixed in my [private] copy, which I am continuing to

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, > that is a matter of individual preferences. Agreed. > Cmaj7#4 is less trouble to read than Cmaj7(#4) on the bandstand in an > unfamiliar tune. Disagreed. > 90% of the extensions that are written on lead sheets are ignored anyway in > favor of what the musician’s ear tells him or

Re: update objects

2016-01-17 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Luca, On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 6:52 AM, Luca Danieli wrote: > Thank you David, > > I recently introduced some arrowed micro-tonal notation to my file. > In the file I was suggested the standard micro-tonal notation is replaced > by the following code (example): > > (ceh

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
While i might agree with you to some extent this is also a practial matter: 1) Whether or not you call it maj or *triangle*, m or MI is indeed a matter of culture and personal taste. But consider the following: A C7, a dominant, might tell a performing musician lots but when dealing with

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 Thread David Sumbler
It's true - your example, using the bar I included in my previous email, works fine. In my previous attempts at getting this to work with the whole quartet I had your 2 Scheme "define"s and the myHairpinMinimumLength definition in a file of defaults, which has an /include in my top file. In the

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread karl
... > >> On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > >>> 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the > >>> bounding box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? ... If you \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" and run lilypond --ps -dbackend=eps you

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl-Henrik, Here’s a start for you. Hope this helps! Kieren. SNIPPET BEGINS \version "2.19.35" \language "english" chordFlat = \markup \concat { \hspace #0.1 \raise #0.5 \fontsize #-1 \flat \hspace #0.2 } chordSharp = \markup \concat { \hspace #0.1 \raise #0.5 \fontsize #-1 \sharp

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
I follow this nonsense thread just for entertainement with wild references to any-/something and found i. e https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-11/msg00950.html and https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-11/pdfsKndJHU0dl.pdf Two questions: 1. Why is Cm69 (ly) =

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Thank you. This is indeed a good start! However. How to adjust the lenght of the parenthesis? As of now they only encapsule 1/3 of the stack. I havent the foggiest on how to make them "flexible". > 17. jan. 2016 kl. 22.25 skrev Kieren MacMillan > : > > Hi

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-17 19:55 GMT+01:00 Carl-Henrik Buschmann : > Any news regarding this? Well, what's "this"? LilyPond exists, yes. There is no common definiton of "JazzChords". So, no news. ;) Maybe you may want to be a little more specific? Cheers, Harm

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl-Henrik, > I'm wondering if lilypond is able to notate complex chords Still not sure exactly what you mean… As far as I understand (and have used), Lilypond can notate any chord you want, given the correct custom chord naming. I’ve been building an include file around the Brandt system,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl-Henrik, > I have googled my ass off on how to get "jazz chords" properly formated. The > lilypond manual isn't exactly being straight about the matter. I do know it > *should* be possible and i'm humbly asking for a hint at formating as shown > in the picture i linked/sendt. Try this

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Am 17.01.2016 21:33, schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann: http://i.imgur.com/crR5239.png [3] I have googled my ass off on how to get "jazz chords" properly formated. What is "properly" formated? Where is your wrong formated code example? ___

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
his is undesirable. Quite interesting! Good night. Am 17.01.2016 22:28, schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann: A properly formatet complex chord stacks alterations in parenthesis. Lilyponds default is: \version "2.19.35" \header { tagline = "" } ChordNames = \chordmode { \set majorSevenSymbol

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Any news regarding this? Carl-Henrik ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-17 19:21 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > > The only trouble is, I am getting a lot of compiler errors and warnings. > For each of the relevant layout blocks, I get: > > programming error: infinite rod > continuing, cross fingers > > and then numerous instances of: > >

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Harm, This is the original thread (sorry about that one, really thought answering the original thread brought up the history): http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-07/msg00274.html Here is a imgur link to the image I referenced (Also, chill. I'm only asking for help. We are

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Tim McNamara
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 3:28 PM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann > wrote: > > A properly formatet complex chord stacks alterations in parenthesis. Hemmm, that is a matter of individual preferences. As a jazz musician I find parentheses in chords add to the visual clutter and add no

temporarily escaping chordmode

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all, If I’ve want to explicitly enter a chord in a chordmode block, e.g., \chordmode { c1 d1:m6 } what’s the incantation? Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-17 22:28 GMT+01:00 Carl-Henrik Buschmann : Thanks for code and links! > A properly formatet complex chord stacks alterations in parenthesis. Well, I disagre - at least as a general verdict. > Lilyponds default is > [...] undesirable. Ofcourse I disagree again, ;)

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, > The main problem is that current LilyPond-default is very hard to tweak +1^10 [sic] ;) > I once started rewriting chordnames. [1] > Finally it aimed at easy user-tweakable formatting. > Maybe, I'll get back to it once … If you’re serious about doing it in the near future,

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Simon, > Note the effect of sensible code formatting – it can’t be emphasised often > enough… I actually had it that way in my example, but decided to put it on one line to save vertical space in the post. Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-18 2:00 GMT+01:00 Kieren MacMillan : > Hello all, > > If I’ve want to explicitly enter a chord in a chordmode block, e.g., > > \chordmode { > c1 > d1:m6 > > } > > what’s the incantation? > > Thanks, > Kieren. Hi Kieren, not sure what you

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Harm, D'oh… It was a \language versus \include problem: I switched the language to “english", but then included a file that switched the language back to “nederlands”. Then the “ef” in that chord threw an error. Sorry for the noise. Kieren. Kieren

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 17.01.2016 22:35, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: Thank you. This is indeed a good start! However. How to adjust the lenght of the parenthesis? As of now they only encapsule 1/3 of the stack. I havent the foggiest on how to make them "flexible". You might have a look in the NR, section A.11

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread timmcn
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Carl-Henrik Buschmann > wrote: > > While i might agree with you to some extent this is also a practial matter: > > 1) Whether or not you call it maj or *triangle*, m or MI is indeed a matter > of culture and personal taste. But consider

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread timmcn
> On Jan 17, 2016, at 4:18 PM, Kieren MacMillan > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > >> that is a matter of individual preferences. > > Agreed. > >> Cmaj7#4 is less trouble to read than Cmaj7(#4) on the bandstand in an >> unfamiliar tune. > > Disagreed. > >> 90% of the

Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Tim, > I am not sure that Lilypond handles polychords gracefully either It doesn’t, as far as I can tell. Improving that situation is part of my goal with my B stylesheet effort (as they explicitly consider polychords). > An doctoral candidate submitting an analysis of jazz performance or a

Re: temporarily escaping chordmode

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 18.01.2016 02:00, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hello all, If I’ve want to explicitly enter a chord in a chordmode block, e.g., \chordmode { c1 d1:m6 } what’s the incantation? In case you should need that for which you initially asked :-) – there’s \notemode {}. Normally

Fw: Solution for: new Staff staff-staff-spacing (down AND up) regarding only one single system

2016-01-17 Thread musicus
-- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -- Von: "musicus" An: kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca Gesendet: 16.01.2016 21:43:55 Betreff: Solution for: new Staff staff-staff-spacing (down AND up) regarding only one single system Hi all, After i tried Kieren's suggestion

RE: Lyrics for additional verses in LilyPond?

2016-01-17 Thread Dirk Klamer
Hi all, An other way of using lyrics in music: 2 voices and 3 verses in one system: \header { title = "Psalm 030: 1, 2 en 3" subtitle = "Ludolf Dalhuisen" % composer = "Psalm 76: 1, 2, 3 en 4" % The following fields are centered at the bottom tagline = "StudieProgramma Dirk Klamer;

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello Carl-Henrik, please always keep communication on-list, except if it is really private. Thus others can step in when I can’t help, and the information will be available to others searching the archives. On 17.01.2016 12:27, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: 17. jan. 2016 kl. 12.22 skrev

Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
1) Instrument names. The default placement of instrument names seems a bit messy compared to my default Sibelius output: Lilypond: They seem "off", not alligned properly. This is of course the fault of the author. Most likely there is a easy fix. Suggestions? 2) I need to export pngs for

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: The default placement of instrument names seems a bit messy compared to my default Sibelius output. They seem "off", not alligned properly. This is of course the fault of the author. Most likely there is a easy fix. Suggestions? Well, it’s not

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the bounding box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? It’s not quite clear what you want. Perhaps: \paper { top-margin = 0 bottom-margin = 0 left-margin = 0

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 17.01.2016 um 12:10 schrieb Carl-Henrik Buschmann: > > 1) Instrument names. > > The default placement of instrument names seems a bit messy compared to my > default Sibelius output: > > > Lilypond: > They seem "off", not alligned properly. This is of course the fault of the > author.

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
> 17. jan. 2016 kl. 12.24 skrev Malte Meyn : >> >> 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the >> bounding >> box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? >> > > There is a lilypond option -dpreview which does this iirc. And apart > from

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
> 17. jan. 2016 kl. 12.22 skrev Simon Albrecht : > > On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: >> >> 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the >> bounding box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? > > It’s not quite clear what

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread mskala
On Sun, 17 Jan 2016, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the > bounding box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? I don't know how well this fits into your workflow, but I'd be inclined to trim the images after export using

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Carl-Henrik, Simply defined the 'paper' dimension you'd like : \paper { paper-height = 150 paper-width = 50 } E.g. : \version "2.19.35" %--- % Global variables %--- global = { \time 4/4 \key c \major }

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Good suggestion. This of course works fine but it means manual labor and guessing. What is the point of a computer if it cannot do this for us? I tried -dpreview but could not get it to work. Help a poor noob, please. > Den 17. jan. 2016 kl. 12.49 skrev Pierre Perol-Schneider >

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread karl
... > >> On 17.01.2016 12:10, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > >>> 2) I need to export pngs for my latex documents and i would like the > >>> bounding box to be as small as possible. How do i do this? ... If you \include "lilypond-book-preamble.ly" and run lilypond --ps -dbackend=eps you

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 17.01.2016 13:01, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: Good suggestion. This of course works fine but it means manual labor and guessing. What is the point of a computer if it cannot do this for us? I tried -dpreview but could not get it to work. Help a poor noob, please. The command line would

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, On Jan 17, 2016, at 6:24 AM, Malte Meyn wrote: > LilyPond tries to center-align the instrument names. Long names which > don’t fit into the margin defined by indent (default 1.5cm (?)) are > right-aligned (“Woodwind” in your example). This “mixing” behaviour >

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Carl-Henrik > 1) Instrument names. > The default placement of instrument names seems a bit messy compared to my > default Sibelius output: Actually, I much prefer the Lilypond output — it almost perfectly matches the convention of hand-engraved music. > They seem "off", not alligned

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-17 Thread Paul Morris
Hi Harm, > On Jan 15, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > The only way I've found, is to delete all color-settings from the > stencil-expr. > Anyone with a better idea? > > Below you'll find what I did. > Fixes `stencil-whiteout-outline' by applying newly

Re: Instrument names and smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi, On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Kieren MacMillan < kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > Hi all, > > On Jan 17, 2016, at 6:24 AM, Malte Meyn wrote: > > > LilyPond tries to center-align the instrument names. Long names which > > don’t fit into the margin defined by

ugly french-beaming hack messes with lyrics

2016-01-17 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi list, I ran into an issue when using what is admittedly an ugly hack for forcing French beaming, when *also* working with a voice with lyrics. What I want, when I have (pseudo-code): { r8.[ e16] } is for the rest to be roughly in the middle, with a stemlet, beamed together with the

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Kevin Barry
My workflow consists almost exclusively of producing musical examples for including in Latex. I have the following code in a style file that will crop things as small as possible. After that you will have to adjust the line width manually (depending on your latex document's \textwidth).

Re: ugly french-beaming hack messes with lyrics

2016-01-17 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi Simon, thanks for getting back to me (and for the more complete example). Odd, when I tried that last time the rests would be vertically displaced, but now it does what it's supposed to do. Welp, now I can't reproduce the problem I was having with just using "r" instead of "b\rest" or

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 Thread David Sumbler
Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find that it is only a partial success. Previously I had '\override Hairpin.minimum-length =

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Carl-Henrik Buschmann
Kevin, please humor a LP novice: Let us say my file was the one you would use in a .tex. What would you do? > 17. jan. 2016 kl. 16.55 skrev Kevin Barry : > > My workflow consists almost exclusively of producing musical examples for > including in Latex. I have the following

Re: Controlling hairpin length

2016-01-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-17 17:36 GMT+01:00 David Sumbler : > Thank you for the suggestion (below) for controlling the actual length > of hairpins. I am afraid it has taken until now for me to have an > opportunity to try it out in my string quartet. Unfortunately, I find > that it is only a

Re: smallest possible bounding box

2016-01-17 Thread Kevin Barry
On 17 January 2016 at 16:56, Carl-Henrik Buschmann wrote: > Kevin, please humor a LP novice: Let us say my file was the one you would > use in a .tex. What would you do? It depends on the document and the musical example. For a small musical example that will fit on one