RE: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Steven Weber
If you wanted to avoid having an external server, you could always use Docker. I’ve been running LP in a Docker container on my mac for a couple of months now, and it’s worked flawlessly. --Steven From: lilypond-user On Behalf Of Austin Blaser Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 7:20 PM To: Karlin

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Austin Blaser
Regarding the iOS App Store: Oh yeah I forgot about the licensing: definitely a potential deal breaker. One other possibility I’ve thought about is building an iOS app that would have all the text editing capability one would need, but then send the .ly files to a backend server to typeset with

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Karlin High
On Tue, Mar 5, 2019, 8:02 PM Austin Blaser wrote: > I’d like to make an attempt at compiling Llilypond on the Mac. That sounds like an interesting project. If it turns out to not be very hard, it might influence software distribution choices for LilyPond. I’m an iOS developer, so I’m also inte

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Austin Blaser
I’d like to make an attempt at compiling Llilypond on the Mac. I’m an iOS developer, so I’m also interested to see if we can compile it to run natively for iOS as well. Compiling for OSX is a good first step to getting it running on iOS. Who would be the best contact to help with any trouble-sh

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 3/5/2019 11:10 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >>> I don't know if anybody has tried building 64-bit executables in GUB >>> using the current Darwin SDK. If that works, we'd have a regular >>> build. But I don't think that's a feasible path forward long-term. > >> I think it w

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Karlin High
On 3/5/2019 11:10 AM, David Kastrup wrote: I don't know if anybody has tried building 64-bit executables in GUB using the current Darwin SDK. If that works, we'd have a regular build. But I don't think that's a feasible path forward long-term. I think it would be feasible and likely the best

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

2019-03-05 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Am 05.03.19 um 19:27 schrieb Rachel Knight: That idea should have worked, but the ties don’t look quite right. Below is a compilable example. Yes, that's why working with hidden extra notes is a bit messy: We have to prevent those from taking up space. (Omit the \hideNotes to understand what

Re: ties and cross staff beaming

2019-03-05 Thread Rachel Knight
That idea should have worked, but the ties don’t look quite right. Below is a compilable example. Rachel \version "2.19.81" down = { \change Staff = "bass" \stemUp } up = {\change Staff = "treble" \stemDown} \language "english" Treble = { << \relative c' { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t

Re: Simple example with vertical spacing and dynamic contexts

2019-03-05 Thread Павел Буданов
How to control vertical spacing in the middle of a piece? \new StaffGroup \with { \override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 10 } % It's OK << \new Staff { c' c' c' c' \break \override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = 30 % It isn't work c' c' c' c'

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > Our current build system doesn't use the Apple SDK; instead it uses a > Darwin SDK which was created for use with open-source software. Unfortunately, this is wishful thinking. Our current build system uses a version of the Apple SDK that is so old that we are unable to

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/4/19, 10:20 PM, "Mason Hock" wrote: On 03/02, Carl Sorensen wrote: > We cannot use our regular build system to create LilyPond binaries due to Apple’s restrictive licensing on the OSX SDK. Could you explain briefly or link to why this is? I understand that the App Store

Re: First page number not printed in a \bookpart

2019-03-05 Thread nagymusic
Ok, this does the trick: oddHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line { " " \on-the-fly \not-part-first-page \on-the-fly #print-page-number-check-first \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string } evenHeaderMarkup = \markup \fill-line { \on-the-fly \not-part-first-page \on-t

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High writes: > On 3/5/2019 8:27 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: >> I have a half-dozen Mac machines (of various ages and superpowers) >> here, most of which do nothing >95% of the time. If "running GUB for >> official builds" is a relatively one-click process [assuming the >> setup is already

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi Karlin, > >> Nothing. But unless the person running GUB for official builds is a >> big Mac fan and wants to go to extra effort to produce macOS >> installers, it's doubtful those will be coming from lilypond.org. > > I have a half-dozen Mac machines (of various ages

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Karlin High
On 3/5/2019 8:27 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: I have a half-dozen Mac machines (of various ages and superpowers) here, most of which do nothing >95% of the time. If "running GUB for official builds" is a relatively one-click process [assuming the setup is already done, of course!], then I’m happ

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Karlin, > Nothing. But unless the person running GUB for official builds is a big Mac > fan and wants to go to extra effort to produce macOS installers, it's > doubtful those will be coming from lilypond.org. I have a half-dozen Mac machines (of various ages and superpowers) here, most of w

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi David, > >> Frankly, I am not overly interested in tap-dancing around the rules >> Apple makes in order to keep its users from benefitting from software >> freedom. When the rules Apple makes prohibit us from providing LilyPond >> on MacOSX in a useful and reasonabl

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Karlin High
On 3/5/2019 7:32 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: what’s keeping someone with a Mac from compiling Lilypond on their Mac? Nothing. But unless the person running GUB for official builds is a big Mac fan and wants to go to extra effort to produce macOS installers, it's doubtful those will be coming

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Frankly, I am not overly interested in tap-dancing around the rules > Apple makes in order to keep its users from benefitting from software > freedom. When the rules Apple makes prohibit us from providing LilyPond > on MacOSX in a useful and reasonably sustainable manner, the conclusi

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Sven Axelsson writes: > On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:59, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Apple disallows using the OSX SDK on non-Apple hardware. That >> definitely is a dealbreaker for GUB. >> > > If that is the problem, couldn't we get around it by running GUB in a > virtual machine on a Mac? Frankly,

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread Sven Axelsson
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:59, David Kastrup wrote: > Apple disallows using the OSX SDK on non-Apple hardware. That > definitely is a dealbreaker for GUB. > If that is the problem, couldn't we get around it by running GUB in a virtual machine on a Mac? -- Sven Axelsson ++[>++>++

Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac

2019-03-05 Thread David Kastrup
Mason Hock writes: > On 03/02, Carl Sorensen wrote: >> We cannot use our regular build system to create LilyPond binaries >> due to Apple’s restrictive licensing on the OSX SDK. > > Could you explain briefly or link to why this is? I understand that the > App Store's restrictions would violate th