Re: Analysis brackets

2020-04-07 Thread David Nalesnik
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 11:07 AM Michael Taylor wrote: > Would it be possible in a future version to have the option of placing text > within analysis brackets as well as the default above? MT HorizontalBracketText.direction with a little more tweaking than should be necessary. \layout { \cont

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Randy Josleyn
Here's something I cooked up that works for me, though I'm not an avid user: * vis text editor * abduco + dvtm for arranging terminal windows and attach/detach * entr for watching files [2] * redo for building PDFs [1] * mupdf * —and dwm on Arch Linux for tiling all my windows Probably not the mo

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Cam
Well mostly I was attracted to Lilypond because it supports generation of MIDI files from text input, unlike most other programs which are GUI based. For my purposes it's perfect. From within my Python program I execute Lilypond to "compile" the source into MIDI and engraving, then I fetch the

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
Hi Kieren, > I was simply using your code, and eliminating the spaces to make my point. if you eliminate the spaces, then the example becomes the opposite of what it demonstrates. In order to align pedals, you don't have to look at that example, but you have to check the last one, which shows of

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 1:07 AM Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > Paolo, > > > > “I suspect it has been made, in the past, for an old fashioned style (not > used in professional engraving, though).” > > Looking though my Paderewski Edition of Chopin’s Piano works I find all > the pedaling indications h

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Paolo, > your version does *not* correspond to my above example. I was simply using your code, and eliminating the spaces to make my point. > In order to align pedals at right and left, you could use a combination of > after and before-linebreaking. That is a lot of extra manual work to my

RE: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Paolo, “I suspect it has been made, in the past, for an old fashioned style (not used in professional engraving, though).” Looking though my Paderewski Edition of Chopin’s Piano works I find all the pedaling indications horizontally aligned. See an excerpt from Nocturne #12. This is certain

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Karlin High
On 4/7/2020 5:28 PM, cgilmore wrote: Yes, Karlin High is correct. DX = Developer eXperience Sorry for the poor communication on my part. Yay! Do I get a prize? (joking.) Nothing wrong with a good acronym. DDR-SDRAM sure beats having to say "double data rate synchronous dynamic random access

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread cgilmore
Yes, Karlin High is correct. DX = Developer eXperience Sorry for the poor communication on my part. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread cgilmore
That "Automatic Preview Update" I'm seeing in pictures of the Preferences window looks enticing. Are there other features of TeXShop that turned you on to it? Yes, I'd definitely be into checking out how you're using it in a _ly.tex file. Thank you! And so sorry for the lame acronym usage. Not en

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 11:31 PM Aaron Hill wrote: > On 2020-04-07 1:55 pm, Paolo Prete wrote: > > Look at this example (again: messy code that could be improved, and I > > gently ask Harm and/or Aaron to have a check if they can): > > For starters, I would seek to eliminate the global variable, i

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread cgilmore
That's so interesting. Is there something about the functionality of how Lilypond creates MIDI that makes it ideal for this situation? -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread cgilmore
Yes, I'm so sorry. I don't know why I put that. I despise acronyms usually. DX = Developer eXperience I guess it's taken from the idea of UX, User eXperience. -- Sent from: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/User-f3.html

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-07 1:55 pm, Paolo Prete wrote: Look at this example (again: messy code that could be improved, and I gently ask Harm and/or Aaron to have a check if they can): For starters, I would seek to eliminate the global variable, instead preferring state to be tied to the context in some way

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 9:41 PM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > > I don't think so. Please have a look at this http://lilybin.com/8ufzza/1 > : > > Here’s an edited version, using your method: > > > \version "2.19.83" > > notesA = { c''4 4 4 4 } > notesB = { a4 4 4 4 } > dynsAndPedPatt

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner (et al.), > I think this dispute deserves an issue in our tracker. Agreed! > Obviously, there are two engraving schools I’m not sure whether it’s really two different *schools*… I think it’s a matter of the tolerances allowed [by a given engraver] in the vertical alignment of pedal

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Torsten Hämmerle
cgilmore wrote > What's your DX? My DX is a 1985 Yamaha DX7, but I hardly use it anymore. As far as LilyPond is concerned, I'm mostly using Frescobaldi as a DX (Direct Exchange, i.e. replacement?) for jEdit and emacs. I'm not a military guy at all (neither physically nor mentally), but I spent mo

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Paolo, > I don't think so. Please have a look at this http://lilybin.com/8ufzza/1 : Here’s an edited version, using your method: \version "2.19.83" notesA = { c''4 4 4 4 } notesB = { a4 4 4 4 } dynsAndPedPattern = { s4\sustainOn s s s\sustainOff } % GOOD { \partcombine { \notesA } { \

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Cam
Well, since you ask: I use Lilypond for generating MIDI backing tracks for use by a blues/rockabilly band. The plot is to use Lilypond, which I call from inside an application written in Python, to create little snippets of MIDI - typically one or two bars but occasionally as many as eight - wh

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:36 PM Noeck wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > well there are pros and cons both ways. > > Am 07.04.20 um 18:51 schrieb Paolo Prete: > > as said to Kieren, this is not a good rule. > > I know that you said it already but I disagree. I find it easier to read. > > > I never saw any mus

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I never saw any music engraver who uses it. > > and most of my piano scores of publishing houses do it like this. I > have examples here by Schott and Henle. I think this dispute deserves an issue in our tracker. Obviously, there are two engraving schools, an older one to which Paolo refer

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/7/20, 10:49 AM, "cgilmore" wrote: Greetings, all! I was curious what everyone's setup is like for writing Lilypond, specifically, for any non-Frescobaldi users. We all know Frescobaldi is great and probably the most ideal environment for Lilypond, but I'm personal

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-07 9:49 am, cgilmore wrote: I was curious what everyone's setup is like for writing Lilypond, specifically, for any non-Frescobaldi users. We all know Frescobaldi is great and probably the most ideal environment for Lilypond, but I'm personally curious what other people are using and h

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-07 10:49 am, Karlin High wrote: On 4/7/2020 12:47 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2020-04-07 10:42 am, Robert Blackstone wrote: PS.I don’t understand your question: "What's your DX?” I have no idea what a DX is? Probably "diagnosis" [1]. [1]: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Karlin High
On 4/7/2020 12:47 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: On 2020-04-07 10:42 am, Robert Blackstone wrote: PS.I don’t understand your question: "What's your DX?” I have no idea what a DX is? Probably "diagnosis" [1]. [1]: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Dx -- Aaron Hill Or, if "UX" is "us

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2020-04-07 10:42 am, Robert Blackstone wrote: PS.I don’t understand your question: "What's your DX?” I have no idea what a DX is? Probably "diagnosis" [1]. [1]: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Dx -- Aaron Hill

Re: Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread Robert Blackstone
Hi, I’m also a Mac User and for LilyPond I use TeXShop with LilyPond engines. For me it works perfectly. Up till now I’ve only used Frescobaldi as a means to “LilyPondize” my old Finale scores by exporting them as .xml and importing these in Frescobaldi, process them, copy the resulting score a

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Noeck
Hi Paolo, well there are pros and cons both ways. Am 07.04.20 um 18:51 schrieb Paolo Prete: > as said to Kieren, this is not a good rule. I know that you said it already but I disagree. I find it easier to read. > I never saw any music engraver who uses it. and most of my piano scores of publi

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 4:13 PM Noeck wrote: > Hi Paolo and Kieren, > > I am currently running into the same issues. I also find jumping pedal > marks irritating, even the Ped * variant. My preferred algorithm for > pedal spacing and alignment (not backed up by any notation standard) > would be th

Your Bespoke Lilypond Environment

2020-04-07 Thread cgilmore
Greetings, all! I was curious what everyone's setup is like for writing Lilypond, specifically, for any non-Frescobaldi users. We all know Frescobaldi is great and probably the most ideal environment for Lilypond, but I'm personally curious what other people are using and how they're using it—most

Analysis brackets

2020-04-07 Thread Michael Taylor
Dear collective wisdom, in transcribing analytical markings I encountered a curly horizontal bracket over a number of pitches. Is it possible to format the existing analysis bracket to reproduce this, or are there other solutions? Would it be possible in a future version to have the option of placi

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Noeck
Hi Paolo and Kieren, I am currently running into the same issues. I also find jumping pedal marks irritating, even the Ped * variant. My preferred algorithm for pedal spacing and alignment (not backed up by any notation standard) would be this: 1. Pedal marks are vertically aligned per system 2.

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:41 PM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > > As a general engraving rule/practice, pedals should be aligned only if > consecutive ones are enough close. > > Exactly. That’s what I’m doing — or, more accurately, letting the separate > context do automatically. > > Hi Ki

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Paolo, > As a general engraving rule/practice, pedals should be aligned only if > consecutive ones are enough close. Exactly. That’s what I’m doing — or, more accurately, letting the separate context do automatically. > And this would be even worse if you have another simultaneous pedal (i.

Re: Unwanted warnings/errors on pedals for multiple voices

2020-04-07 Thread Paolo Prete
On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 3:56 AM Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > > Why do you say they are visually distracting? > > Because as a pianist, it’s easier for me to read > > _/\ _/\ _/\ > > than > >_/\ > _/\

Re: Grace notes immediately following repeat barline cause extra barline

2020-04-07 Thread Brent Annable
Thank you both. Silly me, didn't read the fine print. Sorry to bother you! Brent. On Tue, 7 Apr 2020, 8:20 pm Noeck, wrote: > This is a longstanding issue. You need to add invisible grace notes in > the other staves: > > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-c

Re: Grace notes immediately following repeat barline cause extra barline

2020-04-07 Thread Noeck
This is a longstanding issue. You need to add invisible grace notes in the other staves: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns.html#Known-issues-and-warnings-58 Joram

Re: Grace notes immediately following repeat barline cause extra barline

2020-04-07 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
This is the issue described in the end of the grace note section here http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.20/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns#grace-notes . If you insert a spacer of the same length ( \grace s16 ) in all other staves at the same time (after "\repeat \volta 2 {" ) the doub

Grace notes immediately following repeat barline cause extra barline

2020-04-07 Thread Brent Annable
Hi all, I'm typesetting a multi-staff score, and whenever one part begins with grace notes immediately following a repeat barline, an extra barline is placed after the grace notes, between them and the note to which they are attached. It doesn't matter whether I use volta repeats or just insert re

Re: Positioning a segno relative to an alternative line

2020-04-07 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Pierre, Yes : > \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = 0 solves my issue, thanks! JM > Le 7 avr. 2020 à 09:05, Pierre Perol-Schneider > a écrit : > > Hi Jacques, > Maybe: \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = 0 % <= or ? > would do the trick. > HTH,

Re: Positioning a segno relative to an alternative line

2020-04-07 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Jacques, Maybe: \override Score.RehearsalMark.outside-staff-priority = 0 % <= or ? would do the trick. HTH, cheers, Pierre Le lun. 6 avr. 2020 à 19:42, Jacques Menu a écrit : > > > Le 6 avr. 2020 à 19:37, Thomas Morley a écrit : > > > > Am Mo., 6. Apr. 2020 um 18:33 Uhr schrieb Jacques Menu