Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Johannes Roeßler
Hi Group, how do I move a breath mark horizontally? I've tried "\override Voice.BreathingSign.x-offset = #-3 \breathe" But it didn't work... Best regards Joei

Re: Programming error with change staff

2023-02-17 Thread Thomas Morley
Am Do., 16. Feb. 2023 um 19:09 Uhr schrieb Knute Snortum : > > I have run into a situation where LilyPond produces a programming error. It > involves changing staff, voice one, accent fingering and avoid-slur. It's > best to just look at the MWE: > > \version "2.25.1" > > staffUp = \change Staf

Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Aberforth D - Instrumentals
Hello, I am working on a complete piano vocal score for an opera. To keep things manageable I work on individual pieces one at a time, one file per piece. I intend to combine them later with a superseding file into a book. My problem is this: Sometimes, a piece ends with a key change or time chang

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Michael Werner
Hi Joei. Checking the Internals Reference ( http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internals/breathingsign ) there's an alist for the BreathingSign that contains spacing. Looks like the next-note one is what you might be looking for. I gave it a whirl here with these results: music = \relati

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Johannes Roeßler
Hi Michael, I tried to tweak what you sent - I need it in the opposite way, moving the sign to the left - in the internal reference it might be "direction"? But I have no clue how to use it. Joei Hi Joei. Checking the Internals Reference ( http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internal

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread David Kastrup
Michael Werner writes: > Hi Joei. > > Checking the Internals Reference ( > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/internals/breathingsign ) > there's an alist for the BreathingSign that contains spacing. Looks like > the next-note one is what you might be looking for. I gave it a whirl here

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Michael Werner
Hi Joei. On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 5:03 AM Johannes Roeßler wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I tried to tweak what you sent - I need it in the opposite way, moving the > sign to the left - in the internal reference it might be "direction"? > Nope. Just remove the negative from the number. Negative moves

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Michael Werner
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 5:07 AM David Kastrup wrote: > Michael Werner writes: > > > > > For some reason Lilypond complained if I left out the right-edge > > entry. > > It is not that you left out the right-edge entry, it is that you removed > it. The way you have written your override, it remov

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Johannes Roeßler
Hi Michael and David, thx for your help.. \relative c'' {   c c \breathe c c \break   c c   \tweak space-alist.next-note #'(fixed-space . 3) \breathe c c } is there something like "previous-note"? it's not moving closer to the previous note, just moving it further away from the next one: Jo

bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please have a look at this example. ``` { \omit Staff.TimeSignature \repeat unfold 16 { \grace e'8 d'4 } \break \repeat unfold 8 { \grace e'8 d'4 } } \paper { indent = 0 } ``` As can be seen, the spacing between grace notes and the corresponding main notes increases if the overall spacing

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Shane Brandes
Add an empty measure after the double bar. /bar "||" s1 Shane On Fri, Feb 17, 2023, 4:36 AM Aberforth D - Instrumentals < aberfor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I am working on a complete piano vocal score for an opera. To keep things > manageable I work on individual pieces one at a time, o

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Aberforth, Try : https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-03/msg00258.html HTH, Cheers, Pierre Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 10:36, Aberforth D - Instrumentals < aberfor...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hello, > > I am working on a complete piano vocal score for an opera. To keep things > mana

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Aberforth D - Instrumentals
Thanks Shane, That works for the individual piece. It actually works better with s4 than with s1 because it avoids an automatic bar line at the end of the staff. However, this may create a problem when all pieces are combined. The incomplete or invisible bar will then show up again at the start of

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Phil Holmes
See https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/different-editions-from-one-source#using-tags Phil Holmes On 17/02/2023 12:10, Aberforth D - Instrumentals wrote: Thanks Shane, That works for the individual piece. It actually works better with s4 than with s1 because it avoids an au

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 17 févr. 2023 à 10:37, Aberforth D - Instrumentals > a écrit : > >  > Hello, > > I am working on a complete piano vocal score for an opera. To keep things > manageable I work on individual pieces one at a time, one file per piece. I > intend to combine them later with a superseding f

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Sorry, wrong link : https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-01/msg00541.html Le ven. 17 févr. 2023 à 13:08, Pierre Perol-Schneider < pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Hi Aberforth, > Try : > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2020-03/msg00258.html > HTH, Ch

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 17 févr. 2023 à 12:08, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > >  > Please have a look at this example. > > ``` > { > \omit Staff.TimeSignature > \repeat unfold 16 { \grace e'8 d'4 } \break > \repeat unfold 8 { \grace e'8 d'4 } > } > > \paper { indent = 0 } > ``` > > As can be seen, the spacing

Re: Key and time change at end of piece

2023-02-17 Thread Aberforth D - Instrumentals
Thank you all for the useful input. I have tried both solutions presented by everybody and they both work fine. The output it exactly the same with both solutions. I find the solution with the tags more elegant though, so I think I will be using that. Below are 3 short scores. The first and second

unable to use convert.ly

2023-02-17 Thread Immanuel Asmus
Hello, I recently updated to Lilypond 2.24.1 and tried to automatically convert a file from version 2.22.2. I tried the following: * Opened a file in Frescobaldi, chose „update with convert-ly". The version numbers are found, but the OK button is greyed out and won’t do anything. * So

Re: Programming error with change staff

2023-02-17 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 1:04 AM Thomas Morley wrote: > > Add > \override Script.avoid-slur = #'inside > > Cheers, > Harm > That works great, thanks! -- Knute Snortum

Re: unable to use convert.ly

2023-02-17 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 6:28 AM Immanuel Asmus wrote: > Hello, > > I recently updated to Lilypond 2.24.1 and tried to automatically convert a > file from version 2.22.2. I tried the following: > >- Opened a file in Frescobaldi, chose „update with convert-ly". The >version numbers are foun

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Knute Snortum
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 2:36 AM Johannes Roeßler wrote: > Hi Michael and David, > > thx for your help.. > > \relative c'' { > c c \breathe c c \break > c c > \tweak space-alist.next-note #'(fixed-space . 3) \breathe c c > } > > is there something like "previous-note"? > > it's not moving cl

Landscape output displays sideways

2023-02-17 Thread tim
After some more investigation, it seems that my problem is not with Frescobaldi, but with Lilypond 2.24.1. My composition includes this block: \paper { #(set-paper-size "letter" 'landscape) } The output is in landscape format, but it's displayed sideways. That is, the 8.5x11 page is displayed

Re: Landscape output displays sideways

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 11:47 -0500, t...@risingdove.com a écrit : > After some more investigation, it seems that my problem is not with > Frescobaldi, but with Lilypond 2.24.1. The way you start your message, it sounds like you have already told the list about a problem, but I didn't re

Re: Landscape output displays sideways

2023-02-17 Thread tim
On 17 Feb 2023 at 18:03, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 11:47 -0500, t...@risingdove.com a écrit : > After some more investigation, it seems that my problem is not with > Frescobaldi, but with Lilypond 2.24.1. > The way you start your message, it sounds like you have alre

Re: Landscape output displays sideways

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 12:54 -0500, t...@risingdove.com a écrit : > On 17 Feb 2023 at 18:03, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > > > > > Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 11:47 -0500, t...@risingdove.com a écrit : > > After some more investigation, it seems that my problem is not with > > Frescobald

changing ottavation text after line break

2023-02-17 Thread Immanuel Asmus
Hello, I’d like to have an OttavaBracket with ottavation "8", but after a line break, the ottavation should read "(8)". I cannot figure out whether this can be achieved with \alterBroken, since ottavation is not a feature of OttavaBracket. I read in the internals that the Ottava_spanner_engra

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Try playing around with spacing parameters. As a starting point: > > \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-grace-spacing = ##t I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some accidentals it produces bad output. This is now https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6533

Re: changing ottavation text after line break

2023-02-17 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 19:26, Immanuel Asmus wrote: > > Hello, > > I’d like to have an OttavaBracket with ottavation "8", but after a line > break, the ottavation should read "(8)". I cannot figure out whether > this can be achieved with \alterBroken, since ottavation is not a > feature of OttavaB

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 18:42 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > ``` > > > Try playing around with spacing parameters. As a starting point: > > > > \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-grace-spacing = ##t > > I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some > accidentals it prod

Re: Moving breath mark horizontally

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 11:03 +0100, Johannes Roeßler a écrit : > Hi Michael, > > > I tried to tweak what you sent - I need it in the opposite way, moving > the sign to the left - in the internal reference it might be > "direction"? > > But I have no clue how to use it.

Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Matthew Probst
I'm working on charts/scores for a full rock/funk band performance, and I am wondering whether there's an easy way to do what I'm looking for. I understand chordmode and nodemode, and I understand how to set up separate voices to show the chordnames and a pitch squashed rhythmic notation of hte ch

Re: Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 16:39 -0600, Matthew Probst a écrit : > I'm working on charts/scores for a full rock/funk band performance, and I am > wondering whether there's an easy way to do what I'm looking for. > I understand chordmode and nodemode, and I understand how to set up separate >

Re: Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Matthew Probst
That is perfect! Yeah, I was all hung up on the fact that "skips" don't show as rests in the visible pitch-squashed staff, but totally failed to realize that that doesn't matter in the separate staff for chords. Thanks for the rapid, very very useful anwer. This will save me immeasurable time th

Re: Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Matthew Probst
One last question regarding this: * Given that now I have a way to not have to set the N.C. symbol to the empty string, is there a way to preserve a method of using the N.C symbol when I _want_ it? In other words, can you _escape_ a rest so that it doesn't get converted to a skip, say by using a

Re: Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 16:58 -0600, Matthew Probst a écrit : > One last question regarding this: > * Given that now I have a way to not have to set the N.C. symbol to the empty > string, is there a way to preserve a method of using the N.C symbol when I > _want_ it?  In other words, can

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some >> accidentals it produces bad output. > > Doesn't that sound more like the issue should be > "strict-grace-spacing produces bad output if grace note has > accidental" rather than "strict-grace-spacing should be the > default"? The

Re: Wondering if there's a way to not just hide N.C symbols, but have them not erase "current" chord.

2023-02-17 Thread Matthew Probst
This is indeed the first time I'm really understanding adding properties to notes with music functions, and it makes much more sense to me now that I'm deeper in this than it did in the past. Thanks, I'll stop bugging the lits and will get writing now. On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 5:06 PM Jean Abou Sa

I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi; I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores. I was surprised when I noticed that LIlypond 2.24.1 (locally installed by download) automatically updated my 2.22.1 Lilypond score. Usually I run the convert script before engraving, but this time I fo

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update > pre-existing scores. It doesn't. Are you using Frescobaldi? Maybe this front-end can be set to automatically run `convert-ly`. Werner

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi Werner; Then as usual, I'm very confused. I'm not using Frescobaldi; the user interface is using a much too small a font for me to use and I saw no way to enlarge it. What is expected to happen when Lilypond 2.24.1 encounters a score with a version of 2.22.2 in it? Well, I'll try to car

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What is expected to happen when Lilypond 2.24.1 encounters a score > with a version of 2.22.2 in it? Well, I'll try to carefully reproduce > (or not!) my experience! It prints a thick fat warning that the LilyPond version is too old to handle this score. It proceeds, but it returns an non-z

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 18 févr. 2023 à 08:02, Kenneth Wolcott a écrit : > > Hi Werner; > > Then as usual, I'm very confused. > > I'm not using Frescobaldi; the user interface is using a much too > small a font for me to use and I saw no way to enlarge it. Do you mean the font size? It can be changed in E

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some >>> accidentals it produces bad output. >> >> Doesn't that sound more like the issue should be >> "strict-grace-spacing produces bad output if grace note has >> accidental" rather than "strict-grace-spacing should be the >> default

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Andrew Bernard
It's under Preferences -> Fonts and Colors at the bottom. But ... that only sets the text editor font. I have a HiDPI monitor and yes, the interface - at least, the Document Browser -  is microscopic and unreadable. I also see no setting for that. Andrew On 18/02/2023 6:01 pm, Kenneth Wolcot

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 18 févr. 2023 à 00:10, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > > The issue I filed is not related to `strict-grace-spacing` at all. It’s quite related. In strict-grace-spacing mode, grace columns are not part of the main chain of springs that goes through the whole system from column to columns and

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
 > Le 18 févr. 2023 à 08:31, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : >  >>> It prints a thick fat warning that the LilyPond version is too old >>> to handle this score. It proceeds, but it returns an non-zero >>> error code as a sign of protest :-) >> >> Ahem, no? There is only an additional warning in ca

Re: I did not previously realize that Lilypond would automatically update pre-existing scores

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Well, that’s what you get if the LilyPond version is too old. The > question was for a version that is “too new”. D'oh, right :-) Werner