Hello,
This year a short visit to the Musikmesse only.
Learning about the BEST EDITION 2014 award only after the event
(and would have had to miss that one anyway).
Congratulations nevertheless to Urs and Janek and all else involved.
Missing out on the MusicXML meeting as well,
but I noted it
Hello,
Recently I was talking with a person who also prepares music editions.
We were sitting there later in the night over a beer or two, and then
to illustrate a point I first had to fetch a choral piece on paper
set in lilypond and then also to resort to the laptop.
On paper: lyrics
Hello and thanks for the files so far regarding magnetic snap.
I remember that for forcing a hyphen there was == suggested.
Anything having happened since?
Somehow my table neighbour presumed that unhyphened multi-syllable words
would be more difficult to decipher.
Regards
Klaus
Hello,
When changing font in text processing, you switch to a different font,
and most time that's it. Relative placement is taken care of
by the provided font metrics.
In music notation there is a font, but at least within Lilipond objects
like staves are draws not using glyphs from fonts but
Hello,
Dusting off my Mac-mini after the winter:
Regarding version 2.17.17 for x86 the situation is unchanged:
Double-clicking on the icon yields an error message.
Running the lilypond binary directly does world.
Viewing resources of the icon, then following Resources/Content/bin/
then dragging
Urs Liska wrote:
But then I have to say: I'm sorry, but this applies only if you happen
to have a publisher who accepts printable pdfs. If the publisher insists
on finishing the score himself (and does so only with commercial products)
You may have a choice: Finale or Sibelius.
you're out of
Vaughan McAlley writes:
(As an aside, I’ve lately been learning Tex by publishing my mother’s
autobiography. The book should look great. If I want to create a
version for e-readers, it looks like I have to get to ePub via HTML
format. It seems a shame, because the Tex source probably contains
Carlo Stemberger schrieb:
Il 23/04/2013 17:49, Klaus Föhl ha scritto:
Hello,
Just snooping around and discovering that this markup:
score\relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e }/score
now [works on|has been enabled for] mediawiki i.e. en.wikipedia.org
Commands like
Janek Warchoł wrote:
Many thanks for this report! You made me realize that i didn't
promote LilyPond actively enough. We have unique features to offer
and people in the music industry should know about us.
As the Lilypond name was mentioned a few times in that said meeting,
my impression was
David Kastrup writes:
Likely at best halfways. For example, no header is contained in the
hypothetical music output stream. Things like \transpose don't make
it into the music output stream but rather just its results.
Which may be enough for some workflows, but not necessary all. It does
David Kastrup wrote:
Klaus Föhl address@hidden writes:
Cross-referencing to that Frankfurt meeting: one problem described
to have happened at one point was that midi had turned staccato
into brief note -rest -brief note.
Well, that's the fault of the Midi backend. The music stream still has
Hello,
Just snooping around and discovering that this markup:
score\relative c' { f d f a d f e d cis a cis e a g f e }/score
now [works on|has been enabled for] mediawiki i.e. en.wikipedia.org
Cheers
Klaus
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Dear all,
Earlier this month I was at Musikmesse.
As I had some time to spare (a music sheet house was absent)
I attended a scorio-sponsored/organised workshop on MusicXML.
I declared myself as an [evening] choir conductor and LP user.
After a few introductions Michael Good was collecting
Urs Liska tippte:
I think the quality of output is less a selling point compared to the
'big players' than the organizational potential inherent in the text format.
As I learned the other week (maybe more in Musikmesse thread),
publishing houses have invested quite some effort in music
looking
Urs Liska edited:
My target audience are people who are involved in writing scores and
text about music (maybe with a slight personal bias on people who
prepare editions), but who still use word processors and wysiwyg
notation programs.
So you mostly cannot count on familiarity with TeX or
Hello,
As Urs initiated quite some discussion with his 'lobbying' paper,
I shall turn my ballpen-on-paper notes from Frankfurt into Bytes...
... my comments, clarifications {} ...
organised by scorio { it took some locals to get that done }
workshop (open to the public) entitled
Beyond PDF -
Alexander Kobel wrote:
I think Klaus did not ask for forcing the hyphen to be visible,
or forcing it to be hidden, but instead choose the letters
depending on whether the hyphen appears or not in that place
(with automatic deduction how cramped the space is).
Correct. Nevertheless if a forced
Olivier Biot wrote:
If no hyphen is needed, then write lecker. Otherwise write lek-ker.
A manually written hyphen as in lek-ker looks different to lek -- ker,
and then there is the alignment difference when writing lecker _
On a side note, I didn't know this German hyphenation variant.
This
Thomas Morley address@hidden writes:
2013/3/7 David Kastrup address@hidden:
Please take a look at
Issue 3229: Patch: Make \relative { ... } interpret the first pitch as
an absolute one
To be absolutely clear, am I right that this patch will not affect the
use of \relative with a given
Hello,
Some German lyrics from before the times of Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung
feature ck between two syllables. Without Hyphen it is lecker, with hyphen
it is lek-ker. Using lec -- ker or lek -- ker ( on purpose not le -- cker)
the hyphen may or may not appear. Is there anything beyond trial
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes:
I put quite some effort in supporting Gonville as an external
font, as at the time it took 5+ hours to build it and we did
not want to ship a font binary-only.
Which is very much appreciated. As a user on Linux I do indeed change
between feta and gonville, easy
Dear all,
There is Christmas around the corner, and the recent report from Noeck
on showcasing Lilypond at a teacher training reminds me on the outward
visibility. And on the topic of music integration in wiki environments.
For the mediawiki software (known from its wikipedia use) there exists
Hello,
I do see two issues here
1) Bundling all files into a doc tarball, bzipped. Not a problem for me
as I am familiar with tar etc. and not only zip.
And I also prefer to have the documentation available locally when offline.
2) Hiding away the desired information in yet one more web page.
Minimal code 1: notes g and a collide
\version 2.15.42
\new Staff
{ \new Voice \voiceOne c'' }
{ \new Voice \voiceOne g' }
{ \new Voice \voiceTwo a' }
Well, yes. You've told them to collide, so they do and the text output
warns you.
Ok, so no bug.
I see your comment below,
bottom-posting
Hello,
Minimal code 1: notes g and a collide
\version 2.15.42
\new Staff
{ \new Voice \voiceOne c'' }
{ \new Voice \voiceOne g' }
{ \new Voice \voiceTwo a' }
Minimal code 2: fermata prints on top on note
\version 2.15.42
\new Staff
{ \new Voice \voiceOne d'1 }
Hello,
The other week I was talking with a couple of music people.
Talking to Person A about upcoming concert programme, showing some
choir musicsheets I typeset with Lilypond after A had groaned about
sometimesless-than-perfect computer output. Person A was amazed about
the clarity, well
When converted to pdf (or ps? or svg?) can I load the whole score in Inkscape
(I don't think so, I have tried it) or some other postscript or vector editor
so that I can do this kind of stuff?
Hello Nils,
While I have only started to explore with a mini example,
I have been using pdf2svg to
midi2ly, obviously. It sucks royally for human-created input. Look up
Viterbi decoders and/or hidden Markov chains for a plan how to do better.
So far I have mentally broken down the task into two main chunks:
1) establish the maths function/relation recording time versus music piece time
2)
Hello,
I like the lilypond notation using \relative being concise and readable.
Entering on a computer keyboard is fairly quick, but still it feels
that playing a melody line would be so much quicker. In particular
if one does not have a typing c4 d e f g1 style but c4 d4. e8 f8. g16 c,1
What
Hello,
Sometimes when browsing LSR snippets I come across full page snippets,
consisting mainly of empty space. While I do understand that
-sometimes- one may need a whole page to demonstrate a specific feature,
most times it looks like an oversight.
1) What makes some snippets being short and
Hello,
Still the same error with Mac x86 OSX 10.4.11
as in the previous 2.15.35 package.
Klaus
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Hello,
I've experimentally changed my lilypond installations from feta to gonville,
and while the music grobs are changed in both cases
I find that on Linux debian squeeze 2.12.3 the text font remains
New Century Schoolbook, while on Mac OS X 2.14.2 the text font is changed
to a
Mac OS X 10.4.11 x86 on double-clicking Lilypond icon same error in 2.15.35
as in previous versions like 2.15.34 (and same hardware as before).
Klaus
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Hello,
One staff line with tenor and bass voices, discerned by stem direction.
Now there comes a whole note/semibreve and the bass splits into bass one
and bass two. How to show the middle note is bass one and not tenor two?
\arpeggioBracket d a\arpeggio
looks about right visually to group the
Hello,
Unpacking lilypond-2.15.32-1.darwin-x86.tar.bz2 ok. Application icon ok.
Double-clicking on App icon gives error. See Console log below.
Looks very much like issue 2271, but maybe separate number due to x86 binary.
Computer restart, also left-clicking a ly-file and choosing
version 32
Hello,
Unpacking MacOS X x86: LilyPond 2.15.31-1 on MacMini Intel Core Duo
does not run, only standard Applications icon.
Adding the missing /string after the character sequence including
spaces to Info.plist as noted in bug 2338. After reboot the
Lilypond icon shows up.
Double-clicking on the
Hello,
MacOS X x86: LilyPond 2.15.31-1 unpacked and installed on
Mac OS X Version 10.4.11 MacMini Intel Core Duo.
Adding the missing /string to a line including spaces in Info.plist,
after reboot proper Lilypond icon shows up. As per issue 2338.
Double-clicking on icon gives Error, no
P.S. console log is very much similar to issue 2271 reported there for PPC.
Regards
Klaus
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Hello,
Had to stop on Friday before 2.15.28 came through. Hence was testing
2.15.27 on Intel Mac OS 10.4.11, double-clicking on program icon after
unpacking. Traceback looks similar to the previous PPC error messages.
Will download version 28 now, and then try command line as well.
Best regards
Hello,
Working (also) with a MacMini Intel Core Duo under 10.4.x and would like to be
able to use 2.16 as well. If it were a question of UI, would be quite happy to
use the tool unix-style from the terminal.
Best regards
Klaus
P.S. would it help if I test MacOS X x86: LilyPond 2.15.27-1
Hello,
While still using Version 12 as provided by debian, I came across a bug that
a-natural and a-flat share a common notehead. Is this still present in 2.14 or
2.15 ?
Minimal example:
\version 2.12.3
\new Staff
\new Voice { \voiceOne as8 }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo a8 }
Best regards
Hello,
When using ChoirStaff, bar lines do not span which is intentional.
Short example:
\version 2.12.3
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff { c'1 c'1 \bar |. }
\new Lyrics \lyricmode { some Text }
\new Staff { c'1 c'1 }
But one often finds that the final bar line (only) is spanning all staff
There is a snippet implementing SemiChoirStaff.
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=299
First problem (my problem) snippets via LSR are not available when offline.
Main catch: once you found your way to SpanBar in the documentation,
you have pretty much solved the problem anyway.
Even with
Hello all,
Thank you for the implementation hints.
If anyone wants to know more about this notation, croches blanches is a good
search term.
And Charpentier also uses the single digit time signature 3 in such music.
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'style = #'single-digit
to implement.
Cheers
Hello,
These days I have seen Charpentier music using some white notation for shorter
durations, in a nutshell minima noteheads with quaver flags. Wikipedia file
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Elevatio.png is showing an(other) example.
What is the proper naming (I have been told white notation
Hello,
tiny example:
\relative c' f2. \\ c2. { c2 g4 }
question: the c2 is noted without a stem, it does however touch the stem of the
c2. note. Is this mirror-image ok notationwise? I am asking because an older
music sheet shows a situation similar to c2. and c2 as separate notes.
Hello,
\new Staff
\new Voice { \voiceOne f'2. }
\new Voice { \voiceTwo c'2. }
\new Voice { \voiceFour c'2 ( g4 ) }
One needs both \new Voice and \voiceFour to make it work.
\relative c' f2. \\ c2. \new Voice { \voiceFour c2( g4) }
In reality the music is longer, hence I only
Hello,
I tried to produce a tiny example and did not succeed to get bar lines
to cut through text. Then I pulled out my (old) file with the issue,
but version 2.12.3 works ok in that respect.
So it may be a 2.10 issue, addressed and solved in the meantime. Thank you
folks.
My conclusion: fine
Hello,
With lyrics and ChoirStaff a long word may overlap into an adjacent bar
and this looks visually ok. Now I want to set a piece with Mensurstriche
which essentially is StaffGroup and in some tightly spaced staff lines
the overlapping words have the bar line cutting through them.
Is there an
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