Re: [SPAM] Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-30 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:14:55 +0100 Urs Liska wrote: > Thanks, that's clarifying. Abs confirming that my model's > notation is "correct". > > David Stephen Grant schrieb am 27.03.2014: > >Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should > >always be placed after the barline. However

Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-28 Thread Ralph Palmer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 1:22 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > Urs Liska writes: > > > Hi all, > > > > consider the attached image. > > Apart from the problematic slur which I don't want to deal with right > > now, how can I typeset the acciaccatura _before_ the barline. > > > > I was thinking of hacki

Re: [SPAM] Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread Urs Liska
Thanks, that's clarifying. Abs confirming that my model's notation is "correct". David Stephen Grant schrieb am 27.03.2014: >Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should always be >placed after the barline. However, a group of three or more grace notes >sounding before the beat m

Re: [SPAM] Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread Urs Liska
Thanks, that's clarifying. Abs confirming that my model's notation is "correct". David Stephen Grant schrieb am 27.03.2014: >Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should always be >placed after the barline. However, a group of three or more grace notes >sounding before the beat m

Re: [SPAM] Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread Urs Liska
Thanks, that's clarifying. Abs confirming that my model's notation is "correct". David Stephen Grant schrieb am 27.03.2014: >Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should always be >placed after the barline. However, a group of three or more grace notes >sounding before the beat m

Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread David Stephen Grant
Elaine Gould writes: "Grace notes sounding on the beat should always be placed after the barline. However, a group of three or more grace notes sounding before the beat may go before the barline so that the first beat of the following bar is not pushed too far from the barline." (Behind Bars, p. 12

Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread Urs Liska
Is that really true? I've seen this notation regularly. What the composers seem to intend - and what is easily understood - is that the slur indicates that the grpup logically belongs to the _next_ note while the position before the barline tells to okay _before_ the beat. David Raleigh Arnold

Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Hi all, > > consider the attached image. > Apart from the problematic slur which I don't want to deal with right > now, how can I typeset the acciaccatura _before_ the barline. > > I was thinking of hacking something with \afterGrace, but that's not > what it is. Well, here i

Re: acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 17:16:51 +0100 Urs Liska wrote: > Hi all, > > consider the attached image. > Apart from the problematic slur which I don't want to deal with > right now, how can I typeset the acciaccatura _before_ the > barline. > > I was thinking of hacking something with \afterGrace, but

acciaccatura before barline

2014-03-27 Thread Urs Liska
Hi all, consider the attached image. Apart from the problematic slur which I don't want to deal with right now, how can I typeset the acciaccatura _before_ the barline. I was thinking of hacking something with \afterGrace, but that's not what it is. Thanks Urs <>

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-04 Thread David Kastrup
Father Gordon Gilbert writes: > Thanks guys. That did the trick. > > Rather than set to ##t and ##f all the time, I did > > dsl = \set doubleSlurs = ##t > dso = \set doubleSlurs = ##f > > and then used \dsl and \dso as needed. > > Lily is truly amazing! \once\dsl should also work with a reasona

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-03 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Thanks guys. That did the trick. Rather than set to ##t and ##f all the time, I did dsl = \set doubleSlurs = ##t dso = \set doubleSlurs = ##f and then used \dsl and \dso as needed. Lily is truly amazing! On 03/01/2012, Trevor Daniels wrote: > > Father Gordon Gilbert wrote > >> But now anot

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-03 Thread Trevor Daniels
Father Gordon Gilbert wrote But now another question: I have a phrase like this : 4( )_. where the original has slurs from both upper note to upper note, and lower note to lower note. Lily seems to want to put only one slur on there, on the lower notes. Any ideas? Try \set doubleSlurs

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-03 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Father Gordon Gilbert" To: "Francisco Vila" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: Re: \acciaccatura before barline? Wow! You never know what you'll find when you read further down the NR! I found \over

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-03 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Wow! You never know what you'll find when you read further down the NR! I found \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'strict-grace-spacing = ##t and put it in my \score, and that did the trick! But now another question: I have a phrase like this : 4()_. where the original has slurs from

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-03 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Thanks guys, That does indeed do what I want -- mostly. From the NR I tried #(define afterGraceFraction (cons 15 16)) and it seems to have no effect on the placement of the grace notes, which I would like to slide over as close as possible to the barline. Any ideas? Gordon+ On 01/01/2012, Fra

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-01 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/1 Xavier Scheuer : > Use the \afterGrace command: > >  4->\sfz r r2 | r r4 \afterGrace a4( \mf { b16[ cis] } | >  d4-.) -. -. -. | > > It is also explained in NR 1.2.6 Special rhythmic concerns > Grace notes > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/special-rhythmic-concerns.htm

Re: \acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-01 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 1 January 2012 21:56, Father Gordon Gilbert wrote: > Does anyone know how to place an \acciaccatura *before* the barline? > I'm using the following in copying a score, and where the original > shows it before the bar, Lily wants to place it after the barline. > I'm thinking that the original is

\acciaccatura before barline?

2012-01-01 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Does anyone know how to place an \acciaccatura *before* the barline? I'm using the following in copying a score, and where the original shows it before the bar, Lily wants to place it after the barline. I'm thinking that the original is perhaps musicologically wrong, but accurate in its intent with