\fill-line while respecting natural widths

2014-02-07 Thread Mike Solomon
Hey all If I have \markup \fill-line { foo br hi } The line will be filled irrespective of the widths of the elements, meaning that the middle element will always be on the center of the page. Is there a way to do this such that the space between elements is (line_length -

Re: \fill-line while respecting natural widths

2014-02-07 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Mike, On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Solomon m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: Hey all If I have \markup \fill-line { foo br hi } The line will be filled irrespective of the widths of the elements, meaning that the middle element will always be on the center of the

Re: \fill-line while respecting natural widths

2014-02-07 Thread David Nalesnik
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 2:25 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Mike, On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Solomon m...@mikesolomon.org wrote: It looks like you could alter get-fill-space in scm/define-markup-commands.scm to reflect your formula. Unfortunately, I'm not

Re: \fill-line while respecting natural widths

2014-02-07 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Mike, See the attached. (I just changed a line or two of the definition of \fill-line from scm/define-markup-commands.scm.) Hopefully this gives you what you want! --David \version 2.18.0 #(define-markup-command (fill-line-two layout props args) (markup-list?) #:category align

Re: \fill-line while respecting natural widths

2014-02-07 Thread Mike Solomon
On Feb 8, 2014, at 1:18 AM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, See the attached. (I just changed a line or two of the definition of \fill-line from scm/define-markup-commands.scm.) Hopefully this gives you what you want! --David fill-line-variant.ly Great work!

Re: 'natural' sign

2013-07-03 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Marek, Even in D major, use fis if you want this pitch. f is natural, there's no implicit alterations in LP, hence the extra sign. JM Le 25 juin 2013 à 08:34:46, Marek Klein ma...@gregoriana.sk a écrit : Hello, 2013/6/25 Philippe de Rochambeau phi...@free.fr when I generate the above

'natural' sign

2013-06-25 Thread Philippe de Rochambeau
Hello, the following score \version 2.16.2 … \language italiano \score { \relative do' { \key re \major \time 3/4 fa } } when I generate the above score, the fa (F) is displayed with a 'natural' sign in front of it. How can I prevent that? Many thanks. pr

Re: 'natural' sign

2013-06-25 Thread Marek Klein
Hello, 2013/6/25 Philippe de Rochambeau phi...@free.fr when I generate the above score, the fa (F) is displayed with a 'natural' sign in front of it. How can I prevent that? You can get it without natural like this: \version 2.16.2 \language italiano \score { \relative do' { \key re

bug? one notehead only for natural and flat

2012-01-26 Thread Klaus Föhl
Hello, While still using Version 12 as provided by debian, I came across a bug that a-natural and a-flat share a common notehead. Is this still present in 2.14 or 2.15 ? Minimal example: \version 2.12.3 \new Staff \new Voice { \voiceOne as8 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo a8 } Best regards

Re: bug? one notehead only for natural and flat

2012-01-26 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Klaus Föhl klaus.fo...@uni-giessen.de To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 6:14 PM Subject: bug? one notehead only for natural and flat Hello, While still using Version 12 as provided by debian, I came across a bug that a-natural

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-18 Thread Keith OHara
On 11 June 2011 14:57, Marc Mouries marc at mouries.net I have several copies of Debussy clair de lune in D flat and I have never seen a natural sign before the g sharp Edward Neeman edward.neeman at gmail.com writes: IMO

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-15 Thread bruys .
both a natural and sharp sign? On 11 June 2011 14:57, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote: thanks for the info. This is standard typesetting rules. I have several copies of Debussy clair de lune in D flat and I have never seen a natural sign before the g sharp Here is an example

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/6/12 Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net: 2011/6/11 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com AFAIK this was a common practice in XIXth century engraving (a period that LilyPond tries to mimic), but it is considered now obsolete, at least by some people

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-12 Thread C.Flothow
Am 12.06.2011 02:12, schrieb Nicholas Moe: On p. 125 of my Gardner Read (1964), it says: To cancel the double flat and restore the original single flat, it was formerly required—as cited in the rules on page 123—to write a natural sign plus the single flat. Today the tendency is to use merely

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-12 Thread Nick Payne
On 11/06/11 13:31, Marc Mouries wrote: in the following code, lily prints both a natural and sharp sign before the G #. Why? Is there a way to avoid that? \version 2.14 \language english { \relative d' { \key df \major df ef f gs af bf c df } } You can change this by setting

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 11 June 2011 05:31, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote: in the following code, lily prints both a natural and sharp sign before the G #. Why? Is there a way to avoid that? \version 2.14 \language english { \relative d' { \key df \major df ef f gs af bf c df } } Because

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 11 June 2011 14:57, Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net wrote: thanks for the info. This is standard typesetting rules. I have several copies of Debussy clair de lune in D flat and I have never seen a natural sign before the g sharp Here is an example on IMSLP: http://imslp.org/wiki

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com To: Marc Mouries m...@mouries.net Cc: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 2:03 PM Subject: Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign? On 11 June 2011 14:57, Marc Mouries m

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
I do not know it is standard typesetting rules that accidentals _at the key signature_ implies extra naturals, though. Some people have valuable (books) references, such as Ted Ross or Gardner Read, maybe they could check the rules concerning key signature and extra naturals. I am not aware

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Marc Mouries
2011/6/11 Janek Warchoł lemniskata.bernoull...@gmail.com I've looked at Ted Ross, Kurt Stone, Gardner Read and Elaine Gould and can't find any explicit mention of this. AFAIK this was a common practice in XIXth century engraving (a period that LilyPond tries to mimic), but it is

Re: why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-11 Thread Nicholas Moe
On p. 125 of my Gardner Read (1964), it says: To cancel the double flat and restore the original single flat, it was formerly required—as cited in the rules on page 123—to write a natural sign plus the single flat. Today the tendency is to use merely the single flat-sign without the natural

why does lily prints both a natural and sharp sign?

2011-06-10 Thread Marc Mouries
in the following code, lily prints both a natural and sharp sign before the G #. Why? Is there a way to avoid that? \version 2.14 \language english { \relative d' { \key df \major df ef f gs af bf c df } } -Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-04-03 Thread David Kastrup
Keith OHara k-ohara5...@oco.net writes: Bernhard Ott bernhard.ott at gmx.net writes: IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? music = \relative c' { c8 d e fis c d e f c8 d e fis \clef alto c d e f } This is a bug

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-04-03 Thread Keith OHara
David Kastrup dak at gnu.org writes: I think the solution would be to replace the presumably existing list of currently altered accidentals not by an empty list but rather by a list where every such accidental is replaced with a non-existing dirty accidental. That sounds right. I'll add a

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-04-02 Thread Keith OHara
Bernhard Ott bernhard.ott at gmx.net writes: IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? music = \relative c' { c8 d e fis c d e f c8 d e fis \clef alto c d e f } This is a bug, listed at http://code.google.com/p/lilypond

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-04-01 Thread Marek Klein
On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:25, Bernhard Ott bernhard@gmx.netmailto: bernhard@gmx.net wrote: Dear all, IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? This is known bug - see: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1471 Marek -- Marek

no natural sign when clef changes

2011-03-31 Thread Bernhard Ott
Dear all, IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? music = \relative c' { c8 d e fis c d e f c8 d e fis \clef alto c d e f } \score { { \new Staff #(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary 'Staff) \music

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-03-31 Thread James Lowe
hello James. On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:25, Bernhard Ott bernhard@gmx.net wrote: Dear all, IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? music = \relative c' { c8 d e fis c d e f c8 d e fis \clef alto c d e f } \score

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-03-31 Thread Michael Ellis
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:04 PM, James Lowe james.l...@datacore.com wrote: hello James. On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:25, Bernhard Ott bernhard@gmx.net wrote: Dear all, IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I wrong? music = \relative c' {    c8 d e

Re: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-03-31 Thread Bernhard Ott
On 01.04.2011 00:16, Michael Ellis wrote: On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:04 PM, James Lowejames.l...@datacore.com wrote: hello James. On 31 Mar 2011, at 22:25, Bernhard Ottbernhard@gmx.net wrote: Dear all, IMHO there should be a natural sign showing the f' after the clef-change: am I

Fwd: no natural sign when clef changes

2011-03-31 Thread James Lowe
Begin forwarded message: From: Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.netmailto:sh...@grayskies.net Date: 31 March 2011 23:18:35 GMT+01:00 To: James Lowe james.l...@datacore.commailto:james.l...@datacore.com Subject: Re: no natural sign when clef changes The terminal f if natural requires a natural sign

Re: \natural

2009-02-20 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2009/2/20 Nikolay Kirov nkki...@gmail.com: I need to place \natural (in front of a note) like sharp or flat (aes or ais) ignoring any automatic rules. Is it possible? Do you mean something like a! (note the exclamation mark)? These forced accidentals are explained in the beginning

Re: \natural

2009-02-20 Thread Marek Klein
the pitch. A cautionary accidental (i.e., an accidental within parentheses) can be obtained by adding the question mark ?after the pitch. These extra accidentals can also be used to produce natural signs. -- Marek Klein http://gregoriana.sk 2009/2/20 Nikolay Kirov nkki...@gmail.com Hi! I need

Re: \natural

2009-02-20 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Thanks! \relative c'' { a!4 aes!4 a!4 ais!4 } works! (: It's trivial but ... :) Nikolay Kirov On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Risto Vääräniemi risva...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/20 Nikolay Kirov nkki...@gmail.com: I need to place \natural (in front of a note) like sharp or flat (aes or ais

\natural

2009-02-19 Thread Nikolay Kirov
Hi! I need to place \natural (in front of a note) like sharp or flat (aes or ais) ignoring any automatic rules. Is it possible? Nikolay -- Nikolay Kirov Kirov http://nikolay.kirov.be/ Office: (+359) 2 979 2850, 2 811 0611 Home: (+359) 2 856 8627, 0887 198 221

Forcing a natural accidental at the start of a bar/measure

2009-02-05 Thread Padmavyuha
a but no matter what I do with extraNatural, accidentalStyle etc. settings, I can't get the E natural in the 2nd bar to show a natural accidental, which it really needs to do. How can I force this accidental? Any help appreciated! - Padmavyuha

Re: Forcing a natural accidental at the start of a bar/measure

2009-02-05 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 11:14:02AM +, Padmavyuha wrote: How can I force this accidental? This is discussed in the fifth paragraph of NR 1.x Accidentals. Fourth paragraph if you don't count the warning. Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing

Re: Forcing a natural accidental at the start of a bar/measure

2009-02-05 Thread Padmavyuha
Thanks, hadn't got the the NR document yet, I was still looking for it in the manual. So ! is what I wanted. - Padmavyuha On 5 Feb 2009, at 11:37, Graham Percival wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 11:14:02AM +, Padmavyuha wrote: How can I force this accidental? This is discussed in the

Re: Natural forced alteration not played on midi file

2008-01-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
LEDOCQ-BOCCART wrote: Hi, I 've written a piece in F major which contains b bemol notes an b natural ones (using Lilypond 2.10.23) The Midi generated file - simply activated in the following code - \midi { } plays the piece OK except for the b natural which are played b bemol i.e. 1/2 tone too

Natural forced alteration not played on midi file

2008-01-27 Thread LEDOCQ-BOCCART
Hi, I 've written a piece in F major which contains b bemol notes an b natural ones (using Lilypond 2.10.23) The Midi generated file - simply activated in the following code - \midi { } plays the piece OK except for the b natural which are played b bemol i.e. 1/2 tone too low

Natural not printed after accidental in the same bar

2007-03-09 Thread Joseph Haig
Is this a bug? In the following code, the final note is not printed with a natural: \version 2.10 \header{ title = Bug test } \relative c' { cis c cis c' } Is this usual practice, because it is a different octave? I have tried this with the latest stable version, 2.10.20-1. Regards, Joe

Re: Natural not printed after accidental in the same bar

2007-03-09 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read the section on Automatic accidentals in the manual /Mats Joseph Haig wrote: Is this a bug? In the following code, the final note is not printed with a natural: \version 2.10 \header{ title = Bug test } \relative c' { cis c cis c' } Is this usual practice, because

Re: force natural sign

2005-08-16 Thread Graham Percival
On 16-Aug-05, at 2:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a way to put a natural sign manually? in this example the natural sign is left out at the b, but i want to make sure the reader understands it is a b not a bes. See 6.1.3 Cautionary accidentals. It's possible that this won't work

Re: force natural sign

2005-08-16 Thread Graham Percival
On 16-Aug-05, at 3:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's possible that this won't work in 2.6, though. I tested it in 2.7.4, but I have a vague recollection that ! forces a natural to appear was a recent thing. Thanks Graham, the ! did the trick, but in the 2.6 manual there is no hint

Re: force natural sign

2005-08-16 Thread D Josiah Boothby
You might look in the documentation under the heading Cautionary accidentals, which happens to be section 6.1.3. Josiah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, is there a way to put a natural sign manually? in this example the natural sign is left out at the b, but i want to make sure the reader

Re: force natural sign

2005-08-16 Thread lfanele
is there a way to put a natural sign manually? in this example the natural sign is left out at the b, but i want to make sure the reader understands it is a b not a bes. See 6.1.3 Cautionary accidentals. It's possible that this won't work in 2.6, though. I tested it in 2.7.4, but I

Re: natural sign before g'' in combination gis' g''

2004-11-14 Thread Roland Goretzki
Hello list, hello Graham, You wrote: Use gis' g!'' if you want to be certain. Perhaps a bit too fast? ;-) Correct syntax: Use gis' g''! if you want to be certain. Just trying to keep low any confusion ... ;-) Best Regards Roland ___

Re: Natural signs in accidentals

2004-08-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
= ##f ges1 /Mats Benjamin Esham wrote: Maybe this is addressed in the documentation, but I didn't see it anywhere, so I'm asking here.Anyway, consider this music snippet: \key a \major% three sharps: F#, C#, G# ges'1 The G-flat is displayed with two accidentals: a natural (which I assume

Re: Natural signs in accidentals

2004-08-13 Thread Benjamin Esham
On Aug 13, 2004, at 4:17 AM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: It is actually in the documentation. At the bottom of the section on Accidentals, you can find links to the Program reference of the Accidental_engraver. In the list of properties, you can find a property called extraNatural that handles exactly

Natural signs in accidentals

2004-08-12 Thread Benjamin Esham
Maybe this is addressed in the documentation, but I didn't see it anywhere, so I'm asking here.Anyway, consider this music snippet: \key a \major% three sharps: F#, C#, G# ges'1 The G-flat is displayed with two accidentals: a natural (which I assume is supposed to cancel the sharp

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