Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
nt 1/64) } \context { \Staff \consists "Timing_translator" \consists "Default_bar_line_engraver" } \context { \Voice \remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver" tupletFullLength = ##t } } ...which returns a lot of errors. -- View this mess

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
barlines manually for each staff individually. This is a behaviour that I often require to be swtiched but I can't find a simple way to do it, or any that actually works. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-e

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/6/23 DW : > I am trying to typset a choral piece with half bar-lines in different places > in different voices. > > The two approaches I have seen is to use polymetric notation or possibly > subverting the /breathe command to get the desired effect. > > I have been trying to cut and paste exam

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
Ah, thanks. I was using the latest stable version which is 12.16.2, updating to the unstable version did the trick. Thanks again -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147287.html Sent from the User mailing list

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Urs Liska
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Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 23.06.2013 15:59, schrieb DW: >> Ah, thanks. I was using the latest stable version which is 12.16.2, updating >> to the unstable version did the trick. > It is a really common source of problems that people use examples from > manuals not matching their LilyPond version ...

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
. Unless you are intimately involved with the manuals they can be a frightful quagmire of information placed in diverse locations. Not sure if that is a feature or a bug, but it is my experience. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
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Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
obviate much of the current problem. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147293.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
DW writes: > For the manual version problem, this arises largely because the > manuals are laid out in such a way as to force one to do a google > search on more obscure implementations, at that point it is very hard > to see where you end up because you are opening 50 tabs that might > lead you

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
ot bad in principle, but in practice it becomes a nightmare to navigate really quickly no matter how well you care to index it. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147295.html Sent from the User mailing

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors DW writes: For the manual version problem, this arises largely because the manuals are laid out in such a way as to force one to d

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
DW writes: > That's what I'm referring to (if I am understanding you correctly). > > If I want information on barlines I should go to BARLINES, not > Learning>Barlines or Usage>Barlines or Notation>Barlines or > Snippets>Barlines. Just BARLINES. If you want extensive information, you go to the N

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
rack. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147298.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https:/

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello, > most people will do what I did at first, go to the search box on the > lilypond page, type in "barlines" and proceed to be baffled and confused. I have literally never used that search box before. I don't even think it makes sense there — at the very least, it should be "next to" the do

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "DW" To: Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors I don't want to harp on this point, but it is significant that when I mention to people that I use Lilypond their faces curl up and fru

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
fact, I still don't know how to find the answer to this particular question (although I am pretty sure I have seen that it can be done), perhaps you can enlighten as to the proper search procedure I should have followed? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/C

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
s.html to where I need to be in my example in the post above? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147303.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi, > How do I get directly from here: http://lilypond.org/manuals.html to where I > need to be in my example in the post above? There should be a "Search v2.16.2 Documentation" field — instead of, or in addition to, the one that's currently in the upper nav bar — which does a search on the app

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
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Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Kieren MacMillan
p.s. > I would venture that would already be an enormous improvement even if it > isn't a complete fix when it comes to the more obscure stuff. For the more obscure stuff, I would imagine a very good — and possibly complete — solution would simply be a matter of getting volunteers to add index e

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/6/23 DW : > I am more than happy to volunteer, and I realise that it is easy to point > these things out but much harder to actually fix them. > > http://lilypond.org/manuals.html > ...is next to useless is you are looking for anything but the simplest > implementations. [] I agree t

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread DW
to do this? Is it possible to implement natively at all (reaching, I know). -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147308.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabbl

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/6/23 DW : [...] > If I am looking for a way to separate a notehead from its stem, how would I > go about finding this information? > > _ > > First step, according to the advice here is the manual index. But which > manual do I choose? The obvious one (to

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/6/23 DW : > While we are on the topic of general improvements. One way I have found that > makes editing a lot easier is to export snippets to .jpg and then using > picture editors for larger scale alignments. One problem with this approach is, that we've several blind users. Pictures are us

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
DW writes: > Thanks, I will take you up on that if you don't mind :) > > I am more than happy contribute my time and effort to such an indexing > effort, I think something of that nature would help enormously to > improve the general usability of what I consider to be by far the best > music edit

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/6/23 DW : > While we are on the topic of general improvements. One way I have found that > makes editing a lot easier is to export snippets to .jpg and then using > picture editors for larger scale alignments. My problem is that many .pdf to > .jpg converters often leave artifacts. > > Does an

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/6/23 DW : >> While we are on the topic of general improvements. One way I have found that >> makes editing a lot easier is to export snippets to .jpg and then using >> picture editors for larger scale alignments. My problem is that many .pdf to >> .jpg converters ofte

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "DW" To: Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors While we are on the topic of general improvements. One way I have found that makes editing a lot easier is to export snippets to .jpg and then usi

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Payne
On 24/06/13 01:19, DW wrote: That's what I'm referring to (if I am understanding you correctly). If I want information on barlines I should go to BARLINES, not Learning>Barlines or Usage>Barlines or Notation>Barlines or Snippets>Barlines. Just BARLINES. Never mind various manuals for different

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread ed shaw
ffects, really make your work stand out and be recognized. Go get 'em. All I really want to do is finish this guitar instruction session. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp14

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread Nick Payne
On 24/06/13 08:09, ed shaw wrote: I'm new at this and expect to be drawing from this well, so, at the risk of providing common knowledge, I'll contribute what I know about this subject and how I plan to go about preparing .pdf pages for current publishing project. As a Quark and InDesign user, I

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-23 Thread ed shaw
Yeah, DW, I see what you mean. I'm in the process of setting up a MAC. So far, can't get the resolution. I'll work on that tomorrow. Looks like crop copy and paste is not going to be good enough. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-pa

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
ght to try that. Thanks for the advice. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147331.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread Urs Liska
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Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread Noeck
Am 23.06.2013 21:28, schrieb DW: > Thanks, I will take you up on that if you don't mind :) > > I am more than happy contribute my time and effort to such an indexing > effort, I think something of that nature would help enormously to improve > the general usability of what I consider to be by far

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
t... That's an awfully big document... -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147339.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilyp

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
rget how to do things. Thanks, you're a hero. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147341.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilyp

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> That's enormously useful. Shouldn't something like that be front and > center, along with a short (i.e. 1-2 page) guide on best practice > for searching it as suggested by others above? Unfortunately, only Acrobat can read that. There is no free tool yet which correctly interprets PDF portfoli

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread DW
s that you can't do a global search like you can in acrobat. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-errors-tp147276p147344.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-24 Thread ed shaw
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Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-25 Thread David Kastrup
ed shaw writes: > Produce Inkscape svg. > Open in Gimp. Increase default resolution as needed. Default is 72. (Below > Print Standard) > I used 200. Save as .png. Why would you do that if you had working SVG already? > Import into Inkscape and resize or create oversize document. That makes no

Re: Cut and paste from manual returns errors

2013-06-25 Thread ed shaw
Sorry, syntax error. "Produce document in Inkscape is the header. Instructions, followed. In other words, construct document in Inkscape from elements produced in Gimp. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Cut-and-paste-from-manual-returns-e