Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
It is not needed there. It’s only needed when the delayed turn occurs inside a beamed group. There might be a point in including such an example in the documentation too, though… > 19 nov. 2021 kl. 00:12 skrev Mark Stephen Mrotek : > > Lukas-Fabian, > > Thank you. > This co

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Mark, Le 19/11/2021 à 00:09, Mark Stephen Mrotek a écrit : Lukas-Fabian Thank you for your reply and instructions. I haven't mastered all of the directions in 2.22.1 and downloading 2.23.4 for the benefit of one measure seems a little extreme. So what is the remedy in 2.22.1? Both Leo and

RE: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
[mailto:lukasfabianmo...@googlemail.com] On Behalf Of Lukas-Fabian Moser Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 12:31 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek ; 'Leo Correia de Verdier' Cc: 'lilypond-user' Subject: Re: Delayed Turn Correction: Since we're in a throwaway voice anyway, we don't need all those \once commands

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
r your reply and suggestion. > Please bear with my ignorance. > My understanding is that the construct <<{ } { }>> creates two voices. > I merely want to use the documentation to achieve a delayed turn. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: Leo Corre

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Correction: Since we're in a throwaway voice anyway, we don't need all those \once commands: \version "2.23.4" \relative c' {   \time 2/4   \key aes \major   ees'4   \after 8 \new Voice {     \set suggestAccidentals = ##t     \override AccidentalSuggestion.avoid-slur = #'inside     \override

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Mark, Am 18.11.21 um 20:33 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: The beam appears since you have both the hidden note and the others in the same voice. Adding the double backslashes is a shorthand for creating a new voice, but then I needed to override some directions, since this also sets the first

RE: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Leo, Thank you for your reply and suggestion. Please bear with my ignorance. My understanding is that the construct <<{ } { }>> creates two voices. I merely want to use the documentation to achieve a delayed turn. Mark -Original Message- From: Leo Correi

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/11/2021 à 20:53, Mark Stephen Mrotek a écrit : Jean, Thank you for your reply. Outside staff priority has been removed Attached is a PDF of results. Mark Yes, I misread your initial post, sorry. Use Leo's answer instead. Best, Jean

RE: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: Delayed Turn Le 18/11/2021 à 05:02, Mark Stephen Mrotek a écrit : > > Hello, > > To get instructions I went to > > https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks > -attached-to-notes > > And copied the code only modifying pitch and duration. > >

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-18 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
The beam appears since you have both the hidden note and the others in the same voice. Adding the double backslashes is a shorthand for creating a new voice, but then I needed to override some directions, since this also sets the first voice upwards and the second downwards. \version "2.22.1"

Re: Delayed Turn

2021-11-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 18/11/2021 à 05:02, Mark Stephen Mrotek a écrit : Hello, To get instructions I went to https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes And copied the code only modifying pitch and duration. \version "2.22.1" \relative c' {   \time 2/4   \key

Delayed Turn

2021-11-17 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello, To get instructions I went to https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attac hed-to-notes And copied the code only modifying pitch and duration. \version "2.22.1" \relative c' { \time 2/4 \key aes \major ees'4 << { f,8.

RE: delayed turn with accidental

2019-08-03 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: delayed turn with accidental Hi Mark, How about: \version "2.19.81" \transpose c d \relative c'' << { \stemNeutral \slurNeutral c4.( d8) } \\ { s4 \once \set suggestAccidentals = ##t \once \override AccidentalSuggestion.font-size = -3

Re: delayed turn with accidental

2019-08-03 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
verride AccidentalSuggestion.font-size = -3 > > \once \override AccidentalSuggestion.script-priority = -1 > > \single \hideNotes > > b8-\turn \noBeam > > s8 > > } > > >> > > } > > > > I want the third example – delay

delayed turn with accidental

2019-08-02 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
otes b8-\turn \noBeam s8 } >> } I want the third example - delayed turn with sharp below - and add a flat above. How do I extract only that portion of the snippet? Thank you for your kind attention. Mark ___ lilypo

RE: Delayed Turn

2016-08-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Simon, Thank you for the code. Mark -Original Message- From: Simon Albrecht [mailto:simon.albre...@mail.de] Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:46 PM To: Mark Stephen Mrotek <carsonm...@ca.rr.com>; lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Delayed Turn On 20.08.2016 19:18, Mark S

Re: Delayed Turn

2016-08-20 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 20.08.2016 19:18, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Hello: Using the example in manual 2.18, I coded a delayed turn – see attachment. I want the turn to be a little higher than the “bes.” Any instructions would be appreciated. This is once again a use case for the nice \after function I could

RE: Delayed Turn

2016-08-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
: Delayed Turn Am 20.08.2016 um 19:18 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: > I want the turn to be a little higher than the "bes." > > Any instructions would be appreciated. Try s2*1/2-\tweak Y-offset 5 \turn Also, \dolce is unknown to LilyPond,

Re: Delayed Turn

2016-08-20 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 20.08.2016 um 19:18 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: I want the turn to be a little higher than the "bes." Any instructions would be appreciated. Try s2*1/2-\tweak Y-offset 5 \turn Also, \dolce is unknown to LilyPond, it should be "dolce" ;) ___

Delayed Turn

2016-08-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello: Using the example in manual 2.18, I coded a delayed turn - see attachment. I want the turn to be a little higher than the "bes." Any instructions would be appreciated. Thank you for your kind attention. Mark \version "2.18.2" \score { \new Pi

Re: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.12.2013 03:27, schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: Why is it that the code presented in the manual ( and copied in my exampled ) does not produce in my work the same as is in the manual? Not seeing into the original issue I'd ask nevertheless: Are you sure that you use the manual version for

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Urs, Yes, both are 2.16.2. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Urs Liska Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:46 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: delayed turn Am

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Eluze
presented in the manual ( and copied in my exampled) does not produce in my work the same as is in the manual? I couldn't find your example with turns and fingering. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156165.html Sent from the User

Re: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote The length of the code was to demonstrate the inconsistencies, i.e., nine separate instances produce randomly two different results. you can write \repeat unfold 9 {...} so the reader is sure there is

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
:36 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: delayed turn Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote The length of the code was to demonstrate the inconsistencies, i.e., nine separate instances produce randomly two different results. you can write \repeat unfold 9 {...} so the reader is sure

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Eluze
Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote It is here, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-12/txtHVW62yOy_y.txt this is a archive/mailing list! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156185.html Sent from the User mailing list

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: lilypond-user Mailinglist Subject: Re: delayed turn Mark, On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Thank you for your time and effort. Attached is what is engraved under my version - 2.16.2. Collision occurs on 14 of the fifteen (exception proves

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
turn Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote It is here, http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-12/txtHVW62yOy_y.txt this is a archive/mailing list! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156185.html Sent from the User mailing list

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Eluze
TextScript #'outside-staff-priority = ##f what's the result if you do so? do you really need the extra-offset? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156204.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Eluze Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:43 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: RE: delayed turn Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote Thank you. Please see attached. BadTurns.ly (881 bytes) lt

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-20 Thread Eluze
there contains no fingering indications but your example does (c8.-3) either remove the *-3* or add the overrides for the fingering grob as I told in the last post. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156210.html Sent from the User

Re: delayed turn

2013-12-19 Thread Eluze
and can interfere! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156145.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https

Re: delayed turn

2013-12-19 Thread Alex Loomis
: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/delayed-turn-tp156135p156145.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user \version 2.17.95

RE: delayed turn

2013-12-19 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
the same as is in the manual? Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Eluze Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:28 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: delayed turn Mark

delayed turn - vertical height

2013-12-10 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello: In the attached snippet, what do I do to 1. Lower the turn and accidental, i.e. move it closed to the staff, and 2. Avoid collision with the slur? The code was taken from http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attach ed-to-notes

Re: delayed turn - vertical height

2013-12-10 Thread Shane Brandes
before the turn \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(4.4 . 0) adjust the numbers as needed. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello: In the attached snippet, what do I do to 1. Lower the turn and accidental, i.e. move it closed to

RE: delayed turn - vertical height

2013-12-10 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek Cc: LilyPond User Group Subject: Re: delayed turn - vertical height before the turn \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'(4.4 . 0) adjust the numbers as needed. On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com wrote: Hello: In the attached