Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : > Thanks, exciting! > > I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. > A question, also related to David's answer about the distinction between > engineer-friendly and use

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : > > On 09/03/2013 05:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. > > That would be nice, thanks. I'm using Ubuntu. Excellent! > Is this the starting point: > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contrib

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/03/2013 05:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : Thanks, exciting! I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. That would be nice, thanks. I'm using Ubuntu. Is this the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.09.2013 17:36, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : Thanks, exciting! I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. A question, also related to David's answer about the distin

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts. Do you have git installed? And how proficient are you with command-line? An easier way sounds gr

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : >> Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and >> contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using >> linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts. >> Do you have git installed? And how proficient are you with com

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Janek Warchoł : > 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : >>> Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and >>> contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using >>> linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts. >>> Do you have git installed? And

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help I can now confirm the awesomeness! Everythin

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
If someone is interesting I have now set up the old and the new build version of LilyPond according to this guide: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions I have also added the new version in Frescobaldi. Next I will look at the modifi

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Janek Warchoł : > I recommend that you try these two branches: > origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 > origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was > actually written by David Kastrup) BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so you c

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 04:32 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get them. Done, thanks! Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list li

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek I have sent you the full output. I didn't do any options. Didn't last time and didn't think of it this time. Is that the p

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Wow! (i expected problems :P) All these hours spent on writing the script finally paid off :-D I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > > On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> I recommend that you try these two branches: >> origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 >> origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was >> actually written by David Kastrup) > > I went to the sourc

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr : > > On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) >> Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run >> ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help > > I can now

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> >> >> Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran >> (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? >> Janek > > I have sent you the full output. I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 05:45 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: No, this is the correct place. Have you pulled new commits to your lilypond sources? I've pushed these two branches barely before sending that email. If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just have old git version which

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error: > >> make: *** [all] Error 2 >> >> real0m30.033s >> user1m30.064s >> sys0m3.596s >> Make failed. >> Exiting. Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with opt

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. Now the build was successful! Thanks again! Peter _

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > > On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> >> I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please >> try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me >> know if it fails again. > > Now the build was successful! Thanks again! Goo

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw, si

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw, si

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything. > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Oh my God! This looks awful, and

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : >> Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? > > If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't > have to do anything. > >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches >

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : >>> Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? >> >> If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't >> have to do anything. >> >>> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contrib

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : > If everything is set I'll do a test! > > Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course > regular feta font. > > And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the > modified feta then? It's hard to spot any difference, but I n

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Ok! I'll try out IRC! Peter On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr : If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Shane Brandes
That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Shane On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Peter Bjuhr wrote: > After a very helpful chat with Janek I have now another example. Now the > difference should be mo

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Shane Brandes : > That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make > everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different > flags. Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be Ubuntu in a virtual machine) and you'd like to try building lilypond wit

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes : >> That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make >> everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different >> flags. > > Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be Ubuntu in a > virtual machine) and you'd

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/5 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes : >>> That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make >>> everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different >>> flags. >> >> Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be Ubuntu

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
Re multiple master fonts, this concept predated OpenType and is no longer current. There are some uses for it in in-house font design - which to some extent could include lilypond - but MM fonts are not really offered any more, and nobody is developing along those lines. It's more or less an o

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Urs Liska
David Kastrup schrieb: >Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes : >>> That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make >>> everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different >>> flags. >> >> Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be Ubu

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, >> It's not really pretty that a house style should require building a >> particular version of LilyPond. +1 > "Multiple master fonts contain two or more "masters" — that is, > original font styles — and enable a user to interpolate between these > masters along a continuous range of "ax

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, > It's more or less an obsolete technology, and could not be recommended for > lilypond. What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we started discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I believe, come to a satisfactory conclusion): the ability for Lil

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Please don't post fullquotes with comments above. People can be expected to use their mail reader or other tools if they really need to refer to all the original content for some reason. Instead, just cite what you are referring to and put your comments below. It makes for a lot of work for peo

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > Hi all, > >> It's more or less an obsolete technology, and could not be >> recommended for lilypond. > > What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we > started discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I > believe, come to a satisfact

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
A clarification re Adobe Multiple Masters font technology. This predated OpenType, and such fonts are no longer offered and are discontinued. I omitted to mention that OpenType does not support the parameterization concept of MM, and so OT is not an evolution of MM. This is generally because MM

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[wearing the FreeType maintainer hat] >> There are some uses for it in in-house font design - which to some >> extent could include lilypond - but MM fonts are not really offered >> any more, and nobody is developing along those lines. Basically, I don't see any technical difficulties in using M

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I omitted to mention that OpenType does not support the > parameterization concept of MM, and so OT is not an evolution of MM. This is not correct. Earlier versions of the OpenType specification *did* support MM, but since Adobe stopped using them, those tables were removed from the OT specs t

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/9/5 Kieren MacMillan : > What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we started > discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I believe, come to > a satisfactory conclusion): the ability for Lilypond to support multiple > different fonts. That way, one c

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > David Kastrup schrieb: > >>Janek Warchoł writes: >> >>> 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes : That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. >>> >>> Thank you! If you have access t

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Rogers
Werner LEMBERG writes: > [wearing the FreeType maintainer hat] > Howver, my opinion is that we don't *need* Multiple Masters in > general. What we really need is an option to select a stylistic > variant which contains a set of finely tuned glyphs representing a > certain style, and OpenType pr

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 09/05/2013 11:49 PM, David Rogers wrote: There are (were?) situations where multiple-masters are useful. But music isn't one of them IMO. Lyrics are, I suppose, but only for character width. But how many multiple master fonts are there in existence? And how many free ones? Alas, I found on

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Alas, I found one: > http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html > "FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is > a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small > FREE PORNO MOVIES. New versions use antialiasing and gif > compression." Actually, this is

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Alas, I found one: >> http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html >> "FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is >> a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small >> FREE PORNO MOVIES. New versions use antialiasing and gif >> co

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 09/06/2013 06:54 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: Alas, I found one: http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html "FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small FREE PORNO MOVIES. New versi