Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-06 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 09/06/2013 06:54 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Alas, I found one: http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small FREE PORNO

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be Ubuntu in a virtual machine) and you'd like to try

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Thank you! If you have access to a Linux box (could be

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/5 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Thank you! If you have

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
Re multiple master fonts, this concept predated OpenType and is no longer current. There are some uses for it in in-house font design - which to some extent could include lilypond - but MM fonts are not really offered any more, and nobody is developing along those lines. It's more or less an

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Urs Liska
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schrieb: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Thank you! If you

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, It's not really pretty that a house style should require building a particular version of LilyPond. +1 Multiple master fonts contain two or more masters — that is, original font styles — and enable a user to interpolate between these masters along a continuous range of axes. For

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi all, It's more or less an obsolete technology, and could not be recommended for lilypond. What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we started discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I believe, come to a satisfactory conclusion): the ability for

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Please don't post fullquotes with comments above. People can be expected to use their mail reader or other tools if they really need to refer to all the original content for some reason. Instead, just cite what you are referring to and put your comments below. It makes for a lot of work for

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes: Hi all, It's more or less an obsolete technology, and could not be recommended for lilypond. What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we started discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I believe,

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Andrew Bernard
A clarification re Adobe Multiple Masters font technology. This predated OpenType, and such fonts are no longer offered and are discontinued. I omitted to mention that OpenType does not support the parameterization concept of MM, and so OT is not an evolution of MM. This is generally because

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[wearing the FreeType maintainer hat] There are some uses for it in in-house font design - which to some extent could include lilypond - but MM fonts are not really offered any more, and nobody is developing along those lines. Basically, I don't see any technical difficulties in using MM

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I omitted to mention that OpenType does not support the parameterization concept of MM, and so OT is not an evolution of MM. This is not correct. Earlier versions of the OpenType specification *did* support MM, but since Adobe stopped using them, those tables were removed from the OT specs

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/9/5 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca: What *would* be great — and I would want to support — is what we started discussing a little while ago (a discussion that did not, I believe, come to a satisfactory conclusion): the ability for Lilypond to support multiple

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org writes: David Kastrup d...@gnu.org schrieb: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Shane Brandes sh...@grayskies.net: That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Rogers
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: [wearing the FreeType maintainer hat] Howver, my opinion is that we don't *need* Multiple Masters in general. What we really need is an option to select a stylistic variant which contains a set of finely tuned glyphs representing a certain style, and

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 09/05/2013 11:49 PM, David Rogers wrote: There are (were?) situations where multiple-masters are useful. But music isn't one of them IMO. Lyrics are, I suppose, but only for character width. But how many multiple master fonts are there in existence? And how many free ones? Alas, I found

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Alas, I found one: http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small FREE PORNO MOVIES. New versions use antialiasing and gif compression. Actually, this is one of

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-05 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: Alas, I found one: http://www.fontfabrik.com/lucfuse.html FUSE 11 has pornography as theme. My contribution to this issue is a MultipleMaster font. [...] Five characters are converted to small FREE PORNO MOVIES. New versions use antialiasing and gif

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
If someone is interesting I have now set up the old and the new build version of LilyPond according to this guide: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/concurrent-stable-and-development-versions I have also added the new version in Frescobaldi. Next I will look at the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 04:32 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: BTW, i've just made some small improvements to the build script, so you can go to the janek-scripts/ directory and do a 'git pull' to get them. Done, thanks! Best Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek I have sent you the full output. I didn't do any options. Didn't last time and didn't think of it this time. Is that the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Wow! (i expected problems :P) All these hours spent on writing the script finally paid off :-D I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 04:19 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I recommend that you try these two branches: origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2462 origin/dev/janek/experimental-fix-for-issue-2658 (this fix was actually written by David Kastrup) I went to

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 06:06 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran (with options)? Also, can you paste more output? Janek I have sent you the full output. I see. Quite strange, this commit builds

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 05:45 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: No, this is the correct place. Have you pulled new commits to your lilypond sources? I've pushed these two branches barely before sending that email. If you did pull and still don't have these branches, you probably just have old git version which

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: I did it now and run build-lily.sh again. But this time I got an error: make: *** [all] Error 2 real0m30.033s user1m30.064s sys0m3.596s Make failed. Exiting. Hm. That's not enough information. What was the full command you ran

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. Now the build was successful! Thanks again! Peter

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/04/2013 06:24 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: I see. Quite strange, this commit builds fine on my machine. Please try building from scratch (use my script with -s option), and let me know if it fails again. Now the build was successful! Thanks

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw,

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/04/2013 07:07 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: Good :) It's a known problem that sometimes lilypond fails to rebuild and has to be built from scratch. It's nevertheless surprising that this had happened to you... Let me know if you'll have any problems with building other branches. And btw,

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything. http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/contributor/working-with-remote-branches Oh my God!

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything.

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Is this what I need to do next to get the remote branches? If you just want to build these branches with my script you shouldn't have to do anything.

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version (2.17). This should be with the modified feta then? It's hard to spot any

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Ok! I'll try out IRC! Peter On 09/04/2013 09:02 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/4 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: If everything is set I'll do a test! Attached is an image creating with old version 2.16. This is of course regular feta font. And an image created with the new version

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-04 Thread Shane Brandes
That is interesting. Janek's modifications are slight but make everything look a little tighter. I like it especially the different flags. Shane On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com wrote: After a very helpful chat with Janek I have now another example. Now the

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: On 09/03/2013 05:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. That would be nice, thanks. I'm using Ubuntu. Excellent! Is this the starting point:

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/03/2013 05:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Thanks, exciting! I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. That would be nice, thanks. I'm using

Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Thanks, exciting! I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. A question, also related to David's answer about the distinction between

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.09.2013 17:36, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Thanks, exciting! I haven't, but maybe now is a good time to set this up! Definitely :) What operating system are you using? I can give you some help if you'd like. A question, also related to David's

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts. Do you have git installed? And how proficient are you with command-line? An easier way sounds

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts. Do you have git installed? And how proficient are

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/9/3 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com: 2013/9/3 Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com: Sort-of. I mean, all information on how to build lilypond and contribute to it are there, but (especially as you're already using linux), we can do it an easier way using my awesome lilypond scripts.

Re: Feta font modifications by Janek

2013-09-03 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/03/2013 06:36 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: ok. Let's see if the scripts i wrote are as awesome as i think :) Please run the attached script. After it finishes, run ~/path-you-specify-in-previous-script/janek-scripts/lilypond/build-lily.sh--help I can now confirm the awesomeness!