Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-28 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/29 Peter Chubb : > There's now a new version of Articulate on the NICTA website. > > The only change is the licence --- this version (1.6) is released > under GPL version 3.0, so there should be no barrier to distributing > it with Lilypond. > > As usual, it's available from > http://nicta.c

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-28 Thread Peter Chubb
There's now a new version of Articulate on the NICTA website. The only change is the licence --- this version (1.6) is released under GPL version 3.0, so there should be no barrier to distributing it with Lilypond. As usual, it's available from http://nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate Sorry

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 04:08:18PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:46:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > >> The GPLv3 states under 5 "Conveying modified source versions" > > > > I don't see articulate.ly as a modified source version, unless I

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-22 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Chubb writes: > Moving articualte functionality into a performer (which I think is the > right approach long-term) isn't a copyright issue, because you can't > just copy the code (scheme into C++?). Scheme performers are desirable at one point of time, but their structure would likely be d

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-22 Thread Peter Chubb
> "David" == David Kastrup writes:p David> Graham Percival writes: >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:46:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >>> The GPLv3 states under 5 "Conveying modified source versions" >> >> I don't see articulate.ly as a modified source version, unless I >> misunderstand tha

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-22 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:46:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Peter Chubb writes: >> >> > I'll do it if I have to to get it merged, but i was hoping it wouldn't >> > be necessary. >> >> The GPLv3 states under 5 "Conveying modified source versions" > > I don't see

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-22 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:46:21AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Peter Chubb writes: > > > I'll do it if I have to to get it merged, but i was hoping it wouldn't > > be necessary. > > The GPLv3 states under 5 "Conveying modified source versions" I don't see articulate.ly as a modified source ve

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-21 Thread Colin Campbell
On 11-03-21 04:46 AM, David Kastrup wrote: < snippage of licensing issues occureth> By one of those delightful synchronicities, the following came up in today's AWAD: usufruct *PRONUNCIATION:* (YOO-zuh-fruhkt, -suh-) *MEANING:* /noun/: The r

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-21 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Chubb writes: >> "Graham" == Graham Percival writes: > > Graham> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 04:23:12PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >>> Graham Percival writes: >>> >>> > The suggestion that a .ly file would somehow be a derivative work >>> > of lilypond is ridiculous. >>> >>> Depends on

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Graham" == Graham Percival writes: Graham> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 04:23:12PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Graham Percival writes: >> >> > The suggestion that a .ly file would somehow be a derivative work >> > of lilypond is ridiculous. >> >> Depends on how interlocked and crossdepend

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 04:23:12PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > The suggestion that a .ly file would somehow be a derivative work > > of lilypond is ridiculous. > > Depends on how interlocked and crossdependent it is with internals of > Lilypond and whether or not

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Colin Campbell
On 11-03-20 03:27 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: 2011/3/19 Federico Bruni: Il giorno ven, 18/03/2011 alle 16.54 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. there's a typo in line 76 of the patch: +etc., and take rallentendo and accelerando int

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:24:42AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Not likely to work well. It is not even clear that Peter can >> release/distribute it under GPL version 2.0 unless it will work >> unmodified with a version of Lilypond released under GPL version 2.0. >>

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 20 March 2011 15:39, Graham Percival wrote: > > So what? I have been pointing out that it would be easy to add > for 2 years. And on the more general topic of "useful scheme > functions it would be nice to include", I've been trying to > recruit interested workers since 2007. Nobody's been i

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Bernardo Barros
Henning! Nice work so far! Would be nice to have those things too. How difficult would be to have precise and smooth cresc. and dim. within the same note? But in this case you would have to know the instrument, given that a piano could not change the dynamics unless the next note is played. At th

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 10:07:09AM +0100, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > I'm glad that articulate is finally somewhat included officially into > LilyPond, since I asked for it 9 months ago So what? I have been pointing out that it would be easy to add for 2 years. And on the more general topic of "usef

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 11:24:42AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Not likely to work well. It is not even clear that Peter can > release/distribute it under GPL version 2.0 unless it will work > unmodified with a version of Lilypond released under GPL version 2.0. > If it doesn't, the question is w

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila writes: > 2011/3/20 Peter Chubb : >> On 20/03/2011, at 7:55 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: >>> I've not checked, but is the license compatible with that of lilypond? >>> A simple line stating "this file has the same license as the lilypond >>> package" would serve. >> >> It's released

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/19 Federico Bruni : > Il giorno ven, 18/03/2011 alle 16.54 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: >> The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. > > there's a typo in line 76 of the patch: > > +etc., and take rallentendo and accelerando into account. > > s/rallentendo/rallent

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/20 Peter Chubb : > On 20/03/2011, at 7:55 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: >> I've not checked, but is the license compatible with that of lilypond? >> A simple line stating "this file has the same license as the lilypond >> package" would serve. > > It's released under GPL version 2.0 > Its copyr

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/20/11 2:55 AM, "Francisco Vila" wrote: > 2011/3/18 Francisco Vila : >> 2011/3/18 Graham Percival : >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs is probably not what you expect ... >>> >>> Why

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
On 20/03/2011, at 7:55 PM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2011/3/18 Francisco Vila : >> 2011/3/18 Graham Percival : >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs is probably not what you expect ... >>> >>>

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 20 March 2011 09:55, Francisco Vila wrote: > > I've not checked, but is the license compatible with that of lilypond? > A simple line stating "this file has the same license as the lilypond > package" would serve. According to the header of the articulate.ly script, it is GNU General Public

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/18 Francisco Vila : > 2011/3/18 Graham Percival : >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: >>> Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs >>> is probably not what you expect ... >> >> Why not?  That's certainly how I'd start going about this.  I

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-20 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Henning" == Henning Hraban Ramm writes: Henning> Am 2011-03-18 um 11:47 schrieb Graham Percival: >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: >>> Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the >>> docs is probably not what you expect ... >> >> Why not? T

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-19 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno ven, 18/03/2011 alle 16.54 +0100, Francisco Vila ha scritto: > The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. there's a typo in line 76 of the patch: +etc., and take rallentendo and accelerando into account. s/rallentendo/rallentando __

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/18 Graham Percival : > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 04:54:12PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: >> The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. > > Looks pretty good, but I'd like to have a rietveld issue for > easier commenting. I will try to do that, I've never done it. Gimme

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 04:54:12PM +0100, Francisco Vila wrote: > The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. Looks pretty good, but I'd like to have a rietveld issue for easier commenting. > +and in the @code{\score} section do > + > +@example > +\unfoldRepeats \articulate <

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Trevor Daniels
Francisco Vila wrote Friday, March 18, 2011 3:54 PM The attached patch includes and documents the Articulate script. Looks pretty good! My only comment is that it might be better to suggest two \score blocks, one for printing without \articulate and \midi, and one for playback with \articulat

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/3/18 Graham Percival : > On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: >> Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs >> is probably not what you expect ... > > Why not?  That's certainly how I'd start going about this.  I > haven't looked at it, so I might

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2011-03-18 um 11:47 schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs is probably not what you expect ... Why not? That's certainly how I'd start going about this. I haven't looked at i

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 09:17:47AM +0100, Marc Hohl wrote: > Just adding articulate.ly in ly/ and giving one example in the docs > is probably not what you expect ... Why not? That's certainly how I'd start going about this. I haven't looked at it, so I might notice some problem with that approa

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread David Kastrup
Marc Hohl writes: > Am 18.03.2011 02:13, schrieb Graham Percival: >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 01:56:05AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: >>> But let's stay on-topic: Keep up the good work with your articulate >>> script. Any chance articulate will be an integrated, built-in >>> functionality in Li

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-18 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 18.03.2011 02:13, schrieb Graham Percival: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 01:56:05AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: But let's stay on-topic: Keep up the good work with your articulate script. Any chance articulate will be an integrated, built-in functionality in Lilypond in the future ? I estimate

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:20:38PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: > 2011/3/17 Graham Percival : > > I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog.  I've been > > estimating this for the past few years, but nobody's even > > attempted to tackle it yet. > > It is a feature that already works...

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/3/17 Graham Percival : > I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog.  I've been > estimating this for the past few years, but nobody's even > attempted to tackle it yet. > It is a feature that already works... would be nice to have! :-) Are there any downside? increased rendering ti

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 01:56:05AM +0100, Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > > But let's stay on-topic: Keep up the good work with your articulate > script. Any chance articulate will be an integrated, built-in > functionality in Lilypond in the future ? I estimate it would take about 5 hours from a Frog

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote: (from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo over almost the full range of the instrument. Martin> I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most Martin> clarinet music with a few exceptions including Mozart's Martin>

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Martin" == Martin Tarenskeen writes: Martin> On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote: >> (from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo >> over almost the full range of the instrument. Martin> I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most Martin> clarinet

Re: New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Peter Chubb wrote: (from Messiaen's `Abime des Oiseaux', bar 13) -- a smooth crescendo over almost the full range of the instrument. I love that piece ! Which is remarkable, since I hate most clarinet music with a few exceptions including Mozart's Clarinet Concerto and

New version of articulate available

2011-03-17 Thread Peter Chubb
Version 1.5 of the Articulate scripts is now available from http://www.nicta.com.au/people/chubbp/articulate/ This version adds support for mordents --- thanks to Patrick Karl who reported the issue. The next big thing I'd like Lilypond to do is to handle dynamics in MIDI better. The problem i