Hi,
I produced a package of things that I could do.
I made a TTF Persian font called Vaziri which has the music notations.
I also created a separate folder for a version of the font (without
Persian text characters) in OTF and Type1 format with all their
related files.
There is also a PDF
\override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Accidental #'font-name = #???
\override Accidental #'font-size = #?
\override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
(cdr
(assoc
(ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
persianStrings)))
Then in \context add
\override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Accidental #'font-name = #???
\override Accidental #'font-size = #?
\override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
(cdr (assoc
(ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
Kees van den Doel wrote:
Then in \context add
\override Accidental #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Accidental #'font-name = #???
\override Accidental #'font-size = #?
\override Accidental #'text = #(lambda (grob)
(cdr (assoc
(ly:grob-property grob 'alteration)
Kees van den Doel wrote:
Hi Folks,
I made an init file persian.ly with support for Persian accidentals and scale
signatures.
The only thing missing is correct glyphs for koron and sori. I include it below.
You don't want glyphs. You want strings, because we're not
expecting a music font,
- Original Message -
From: Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:06 am
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
Cc: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca, Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se,
lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
On 16 Feb 2009, at 23:35, Kees van den Doel wrote:
If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
symbol for that I think (a blank).
On the other hand if you meant not the glyph but the input suffix...
Perhaps an unfortunate choice of word: as a musical function,
regardless
If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
symbol for that I think (a blank).
On the other hand if you meant not the glyph but the input suffix...
Perhaps an unfortunate choice of word: as a musical
function,
regardless whether it is notated.
...you're right
On 17 Feb 2009, at 00:32, Kees van den Doel wrote:
D# E#p F-raised - I just added a sharp to your example.
Oh, I see, but non-white key finalis is never used, yet for
completeness I'll add it too.
Though transposition is not used much now, if a program can do it for
you, perhaps.
I guess you need context more than resolution; here's a couple of
scanned pages:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/koronSori.pdf
Thanks.
Werner
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On 16 Feb 2009, at 00:45, Graham Breed wrote:
You need to say what interval (as a fraction of a 200 cent whole
tone) you want each symbol to correspond to.
If one would use E53 (the Pythagorean tuning), how would it work now,
after your work of implementing microtonality into LilyPond? If
On 16 Feb 2009, at 03:48, Kees van den Doel wrote:
The note immediately following a koron is sometimes (when the
interval
defined by the note before the koron and after the koron is a
minor
third, and the note below the finalis in esfahan according to some
(but
not all) Persian
On 16 Feb 2009, at 03:48, Kees van den Doel wrote:
The note immediately following a koron is sometimes (when the
interval
defined by the note before the koron and after the koron is a
minor
third, and the note below the finalis in esfahan according to some
(but
not all) Persian
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:12 am
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
Cc: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca, Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com,
lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
I guess you need context more than resolution; here's a couple of scanned pages:
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~kvdoel/tmp/koronSori.pdf
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:54 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: kvand
On 16 Feb 2009, at 21:43, Kees van den Doel wrote:
Might you give some examples of this (which written notes)?
E.g., D Ep F (F 20 cent flat, so actually D Ep and Ep F are the same
interval)
If the musical function or intent is that these intervals should be
equal, then the note is F#pp,
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se
Date: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
Cc: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca, Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com,
lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
On the other hand, if it is lowered an unspecified amount,
then
when
transposed, you will need another symbol that raises an
interval
so
that the sum is M-m.
If you look at the persian.ly file I sent, you will find the
symbol for that I think (a blank).
On the other hand
On 16 Feb 2009, at 23:14, Kees van den Doel wrote:
E.g., D Ep F (F 20 cent flat, so actually D Ep and Ep F are
the same
interval)
If the musical function or intent is that these intervals should
be
equal, then the note is F#pp, that is, a double koron.
Cute, I never thought of that!
-
From: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
Cc: Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se, Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com, lilypond
lilypond-user@gnu.org
Yes of-course send me any relevant
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I
will add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat
better looking glyphs!). But I can only produce a font in ttf format,
another one perhaps in otf format. I
Behnam Rassi wrote:
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I will
add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat better
looking glyphs!). But I can only produce a font in ttf format, another
one perhaps
On 15-Feb-09, at 6:45 PM, Graham Breed wrote:
Behnam Rassi wrote:
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw the glyphs.
This is as far as I can go with my current work too. Except that I
will add additional Persian music notations (and perhaps somewhat
better looking glyphs!). But I can only
pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com
Cc: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca, Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se,
lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org
On 15-Feb-09, at 6:45 PM, Graham Breed wrote:
Behnam Rassi wrote:
Yes Kees I downloaded the font and saw
I made an init file persian.ly with support for Persian
accidentals and scale signatures.
The only thing missing is correct glyphs for koron and sori. I
include it below.
Can someone please provide high-resolution scans of the Persian stuff
in action? What I've seen so far are some
I also hopefully will get some pictures from Iran.
The thickness of the lines have also something to do with its harmony
with other music notes. So this is not much of an issue. But the
basic shaping has something that should be looked more carefully. But
generally speaking it is pretty
: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Behnam behnam.ra...@gmail.com
Cc: Unicode Mailing List unic...@unicode.org, LilyPond users list
lilypond-user@gnu.org, Graham Breed gbr...@gmail.com, Kees van
den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
On 1 Feb 2009, at 22:35, Behnam wrote:
LilyPond now has
standard fonts I'd have thought if we're only talking two new
glyphs.
Though there are some variations, I think they semantically the
same.
The variation used by Farhat is for koron like an inverted flat
b, but
with the loop have the form , and for the sori, a sharp # but
with
On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never seen
that variation.
The sori is always a rotated = with an on it, and the koron akways
has the '' body.
That is good to know - I think what you say is best, being most
On 2 Feb 2009, at 20:58, Kees van den Doel wrote:
I have several shelves of Persian music books and I have never
seen
that variation.
The sori is always a rotated = with an on it, and the koron
akways
has the '' body.
That is good to know - I think what you say is best,
On 2 Feb 2009, at 12:34, Graham Breed wrote:
Do you what types of fonts that LilyPond can use? - Behnam Rassi he
says he only knows how to make music fonts.
There are two ways Lilypond loads its fonts: music fonts and Pango
fonts. The music fonts start out as Metafont and get converted to
Hans Aberg wrote:
Graham,
Do you what types of fonts that LilyPond can use? - Behnam Rassi he says
he only knows how to make music fonts.
There are two ways Lilypond loads its fonts: music fonts and
Pango fonts. The music fonts start out as Metafont and get
converted to OTF along with
|| |
|| |
it indicates a small grace note of undefined pitch.
There are some symbols for tar/setar and santur as well, let me know if you
want to see any.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 2:46 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron
Really all that's lacking is the koron and sori. A small o is fine for the
tahrir, we have that already.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam Rassi beh...@videotron.qc.ca
Date: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:48 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand
Behnam Rassi wrote:
What I'm not clear about is that you don't need just a font containing
two glyphs for Sori and Koron right? You need a font containing all
necessary glyphs for music writing, including Sori and Koron. So I have
to add them to an existing font. Did I understand it
On 1 Feb 2009, at 22:35, Behnam wrote:
LilyPond now has the capability to typeset these, if one can get
hold of glyphs, and produce correctly tuned MIDI files.
I may be able to produce the glyph (with some additional studies)
but I can only support you in getting the code for it.
It
Here's an example from a Persian music book.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Behnam behnam.ra...@gmail.com
Cc: Unicode Mailing List unic...@unicode.org, LilyPond users list
...@math.su.se
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Behnam behnam.ra...@gmail.com
Cc: Unicode Mailing List unic...@unicode.org, LilyPond
users list
lilypond-user@gnu.org, Graham Breed
gbr...@gmail.com, Kees van
den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
.
Kees
- Original Message -
From: Behnam behnam.ra...@gmail.com
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: Persian musical koron and sori
To: Kees van den Doel kvand...@shaw.ca
Cc: Hans Aberg hab...@math.su.se, Unicode Mailing List unic...@unicode.org,
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