Re: No Work! 10.5.8 vs. 10.4.11

2009-12-17 Thread James Bailey
The 'correct' version for system 10.5.8 on a PPC chip should be the PPC binary. The direct link to the 2.13.9 binary is here: http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/darwin-ppc/ lilypond-2.13.9-1.darwin-ppc.tar.bz2 On 17.12.2009, at 19:04, Robert Ley wrote: The 'correct' version for

Re: No Work! 10.5.8 vs. 10.4.11

2009-12-17 Thread James Bailey
On 17.12.2009, at 18:22, Robert Ley wrote: So i do not think the problem is with you at all. The console shows this message: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:05:46 AM US/Pacific Dec 17 09:06:44 rdlpowerbook LilyPond[231]: 'exceptions.OSError'>: [Errno 86] Bad CPU type in executable You've do

Re: No Work! 10.5.8 vs. 10.4.11

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Ley
So i do not think the problem is with you at all. Thanks. I was beginning to wonder... Indeed you are able to get this working on an external disk - which makes no real sense to me, only because if it works on an external disk it should work on an internal disk, the operating system is the

Re: No Work!

2009-12-17 Thread James Lowe
Robert, Don't worry, we all want this to work for you :) The simple fact is that the latest version of Lilypond (2.13.x) should simply be able to be dragged to your desktop or application folder and you can double click it and you get the welcome screen. There is no need at all that you shou

Re: No Work!

2009-12-17 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 16 décembre 2009 à 18:56 -0600, Tim McNamara a écrit : > I don't buy the generalized Unix notion that "doing things the hard > way is a virtue." Where do you get this notion from? Note that the most popular operating systems except Microsoft ones are Unix-based. It's not doing thin

Re: No Work!

2009-12-17 Thread Rutger Hofman
Tim McNamara wrote: On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:55 AM, John Mandereau wrote: Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 20:20 -0600, Tim McNamara a écrit : Wouldn't it be simplest to set the Reply-To header to the list? Then all replies go to the list by default. No. For good reasons about this, see http://ww

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread James Bailey
Don't worry, I've not lost patience; however, you seem to not be hearing me. I understand that two methods of using lilypond did not work for you: the GUI application that comes with lilypond, and a script for terminal use. There are other ways of using lilypond. I'm asking you to see if an

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 16, 2009, at 8:55 AM, John Mandereau wrote: Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 20:20 -0600, Tim McNamara a écrit : Wouldn't it be simplest to set the Reply-To header to the list? Then all replies go to the list by default. No. For good reasons about this, see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread James Bailey
Having seen this, I would suggest first to re-download, and see if that solves the problem. Then I would suggest to try compiling from terminal: LilyPond.app -> (right-click) -> Show Package Contents -> Contents -> Resources -> bin -> lilypond drop this onto a terminal window. Drop the lilyp

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread James Bailey
First and foremost, *I* am not in a position to change anything with the programming. But any problems you encounter will certainly help the people who do the programming to make the end-user experience better. Having read your other email, as I understand it, you downloaded a script and

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread James Lowe
James Bailey wrote: I'm really sorry you couldn't get it to work. After months of the GUI not working at all on 10.5/10.6, there appeared to be a fix which has worked for every other user. So, unless you can give anyone on the list some more details about what you did, which version you were

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread James Bailey
I'm really sorry you couldn't get it to work. After months of the GUI not working at all on 10.5/10.6, there appeared to be a fix which has worked for every other user. So, unless you can give anyone on the list some more details about what you did, which version you were using, and what pr

Re: No Work!

2009-12-16 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 20:20 -0600, Tim McNamara a écrit : > Wouldn't it be simplest to set the Reply-To header to the list? Then > all replies go to the list by default. No. For good reasons about this, see http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Best, John signature.asc Descri

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Kees van den Doel
- Original Message - From: Tim McNamara Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:18 pm Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: lilypond-user > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > > > If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at > l

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 15, 2009, at 7:09 AM, Graham Percival wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: Il 15/12/2009 12:22, Philip Potter ha scritto: Please keep all discussion on list - the easiest way to do this is to click "Reply All" and ensure that lilypond-user@gnu.org is in t

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:07 AM, Kees van den Doel wrote: If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at least octuple the number of people trying it out. Something simple like a window with File/compile menus, a text editor pane, compile messages at bottom, and a score preview.

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread James Bailey
ue. Kees - Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: Kees van den Doel Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
e a plan for a serious IDE, I think that's a > different issue. > > Kees > - Original Message - > From: Valentin Villenave > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am > Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! > To: Kees van den Doel > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.or

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Kees van den Doel
;where is the program??"), and move on. What you point to looks like a plan for a serious IDE, I think that's a different issue. Kees - Original Message - From: Valentin Villenave Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:24 am Subject: Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work! To: Kees van den Doel

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread James Worlton
uot;, > open various example files, change a few notes, and they're hooked! > > Kees > - Original Message - > From: James Lowe > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:41 am > Subject: Re: No Work! > To: Robert Ley > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > > > >

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Kees van den Doel wrote: > If lilypond came with a rudimentary GUI I think it would at least octuple the > number of people trying it out. You mean like http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/LilyPond_GUI ? We'll it's being worked on, though we lack people and resourc

Re: GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
ample files, change a few notes, and they're hooked! > > Kees > - Original Message - > From: James Lowe > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:41 am > Subject: Re: No Work! > To: Robert Ley > Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org > > > > I don't see a log for Lilypon

GUI (was: Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Kees van den Doel
don't know what a shell or a text editor is to try it out. They can then start the "lilypond program", open various example files, change a few notes, and they're hooked! Kees - Original Message - From: James Lowe Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 8:41 am Subject: Re: No

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread James Lowe
I don't see a log for Lilypond and the finder log doesn't have anything for Lilypond in it. Can you suggest where to look? RDL Please can you confirm a few things because it really is not clear. 1. Can you save the example file to the desktop with a file name? 2. If you can save the file and

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Federico Bruni wrote: > Il 15/12/2009 12:22, Philip Potter ha scritto: >> >> Please keep all discussion on list - the easiest way to do this is to >> click "Reply All" and ensure that lilypond-user@gnu.org is in the To: >> or Cc: list. > > I recently realized that

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread John Mandereau
Le mardi 15 décembre 2009 à 12:39 +0100, Federico Bruni a écrit : > [OT] > I recently realized that a good practice is not using Cc, unless you > have to reply to a person who is not subscribed to the mailing list. > The problem is that not all email clients are able to handle the reply > well. >

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 15/12/2009 12:22, Philip Potter ha scritto: Robert, are you clicking "Reply" instead of "Reply all"? I haven't seen any of your messages since the first one, and they aren't appearing in the archives. This can happen if you send replies just to one person and not to the whole list. Please ke

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread Philip Potter
Robert, are you clicking "Reply" instead of "Reply all"? I haven't seen any of your messages since the first one, and they aren't appearing in the archives. This can happen if you send replies just to one person and not to the whole list. Please keep all discussion on list - the easiest way to do

Re: No Work!

2009-12-15 Thread James Lowe
Robert, You don't give much information that I can think of that is causing the problem here, the welcome file should compile with no additional steps other than you must save the file and it has a valid name. Can I ask you if you have not done this, but to copy the lilypond.app to the deskt

Re: No Work!

2009-12-14 Thread James Bailey
Have you tried any of the methods that don't include using the built- in editor? It's designed to make an introduction to lilypond easier, but in your case, that hasn't worked. That having been said, the editor that ships with lilypond is slightly less useful than using TextEdit, so you may

RE: No Work!

2009-12-14 Thread James Lowe
section in the learning guide. Try that...see if that at least gets you going. James -Original Message- From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org on behalf of James Bailey Sent: Mon 14/12/2009 20:16 To: Robert Ley Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: No Work! Sorr

Re: No Work!

2009-12-14 Thread James Bailey
Sorry, I can't help you. Amazing as it sounds, the instructions in the documentation http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/ lilypond-program/Setup-for-MacOS-X#Setup-for-MacOS-X actually worked for me, so I've never used any of the methods on the website, except to see how jEdit fa

Re: No Work!

2009-12-13 Thread James Bailey
Which script? What does the site say to do to make it run? I know there are at least three different methods listed at the website on ways to use lilypond. At lest two of which, I know from first-hand experience work perfectly, the others of which, I know from second- hand experience work p

Re: No Work!

2009-12-13 Thread James Bailey
I don't know if you know about it, but the link from the download page on lilypond.org for osx 10.5 has several methods of getting lilypond to work. http://ivo.bouwmans.name/lilypondleopard/ On 13.12.2009, at 19:14, Robert Ley wrote: Re: Version 2.12.2-1 Downloaded both documentation and pr

Re: No Work!

2009-12-13 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Did you follow the instructions in the text file? There's no graphical interface for this program. The text file tells you how you go about creating a score with Lilypond. Save the file by doing File>Save As>testfile.ly Then choose Compile>Typeset File (my memory may be faulty here) It's possible