Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-23 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Friday 23 September 2005 10.45, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Wouldn't it be possible to use the new support for laissez vibrer > in version 2.7.10, to draw these ties? That's #1 in Han-Wen's sponsorable solution (see thread "Co-sponsoring Was: Ties in second endings") -- Erik ___

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-23 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Wouldn't it be possible to use the new support for laissez vibrer in version 2.7.10, to draw these ties? that's exactly the feature I am trying to raise money for. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen __

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-23 Thread Peter Mogensen
Erik Sandberg wrote: >>Define "proper". >>The above requires you to add the hack to all staves if you need it in >>one staff. That's too much trouble for my lilypond use. > > > - it's future compatible (I have plans to fix the grace note bug). > - with your solution, the tied note is placed sligh

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-23 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Wouldn't it be possible to use the new support for laissez vibrer in version 2.7.10, to draw these ties? /Mats D Josiah Boothby wrote: On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 09:33 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard trick is to add a tie from an

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-23 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 22 September 2005 11.37, Peter Mogensen wrote: > Erik Sandberg wrote: > > why not do something like this? > > > > \new DrumStaff { > >\drummode { > > \repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn} > > \alternative { > >{sn4 sn sn sn } > >{\grace s

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread D Josiah Boothby
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 09:33 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard > > trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make > > the invisible note a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy > > the rhythm. > > Uh, oh, u

RE: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Fairchild
Title: Message Mats -   You must be right.  I recall seeing a third ending inserted with only one staff, but can't repeat it.   Here's an example of what happens with a grace note on one of two staves.   \version "2.4.6"\layout { raggedright = ##t }\score{ \relative c' <<\new Staff { \rep

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Mats Bengtsson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:16 AM To: Peter Mogensen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties in second endings Peter Mogensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote: * Ties are not continued into second endings The standard trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. Yo

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Peter Mogensen
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Peter Mogensen wrote: >> Mats Bengtsson wrote: >>> See >>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-09/msg00444.html >>> for the simple extra work-around that's needed. >> >> Yes... I did read your post. >> And as I said in the answer, I've experienced that that

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Erik Sandberg
Citerar Peter Mogensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Fairchild wrote: > > \version "2.4.6" > > \layout{ raggedright = ##t } > > \score{ > > \relative c' { > > \repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ } > > \alternative { > > { a4 g2 f4 } > > { \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. } > > }}} > > No... because th

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Peter Mogensen
Erik Sandberg wrote: > why not do something like this? > > \new DrumStaff { >\drummode { > \repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn} > \alternative { >{sn4 sn sn sn } >{\grace s4 sn4 hh2. } > } >} > } >>> > > This is the prope

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Peter Mogensen wrote: Fairchild wrote: Graham - Here's a trim-down of the thread, for sticking in the manual, in the section on ties, or repeats, or both. Edit to suit. There ought to be a better way that makes the tie more pronounced, but a simple way eludes me. - Br

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Peter Mogensen
Fairchild wrote: > Graham - > > Here's a trim-down of the thread, for sticking in the manual, in the section > on ties, or repeats, or both. Edit to suit. > > There ought to be a better way that makes the tie more pronounced, but a > simple way eludes me. > > - Bruce >

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-22 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard > trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make > the invisible note a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy > the rhythm. Uh, oh, ugly (the situation, not the idea or your code). Han-Wen, handling s

RE: Ties in second endings

2005-09-21 Thread Fairchild
Title: Message Graham -   Here's a trim-down of the thread, for sticking in the manual, in the section on ties, or repeats, or both.  Edit to suit.   There ought to be a better way that makes the tie more pronounced, but a simple way eludes me.     - Bruce

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-21 Thread Graham Percival
On 21-Sep-05, at 4:25 AM, Fairchild wrote: Thanks. Your two alternatives should make the docs, maybe Tips and Tricks. Well, you know how to do that. You can add it to the LSR or the lilypond wiki, or write some text and copy the example and send it to me for inclusion in the manual. Che

RE: Ties in second endings

2005-09-21 Thread Fairchild
making it slightly longer. - Bruce -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Bengtsson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 3:16 AM To: Peter Mogensen Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Re: Ties in second endings Peter

Re: Ties in second endings

2005-09-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Peter Mogensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote: * Ties are not continued into second endings The standard trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. You can find several examples in the mailing list archives. I did that. But this is also one of the examples where the "hack" doesn't play we

Re: Ties in second endings (and a small rant)

2005-09-21 Thread Peter Mogensen
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I hope you know how to fix it, namely to insert a \grace{s4} in the > beginning of the second ending of all other voices. Example: [snip] > The other alternative that is often used is to fiddle with the > durations, as in the following example, but then you either get > the