Tuplets (was: Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond)

> \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) How about a command like \partial? \tupletDuration 4 % equivalent to the above command ( The rare case \tupletDuration 4*3 would be \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 3 4) ) > Is there a possibility to either > a) split after th

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

ome time and I must say it was very good. I hope someone takes over it's development. Antonio -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Sibelius-user-looking-for-the-easiest-way-to-learn-LilyPond-tp6427p139053.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Na

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Liypond is so powerful and versatile that the initial learning process is daunting. However as a recent convert I strongly recommend that you pay close attention to the structure and philosophy which is significantly different from the likes of Sibelius, Finale, Noteworthy etc. Those programs giv

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Am 08.01.2013 08:09, schrieb Werner LEMBERG: > >>> If you have a whole passage of tuplets, then... [...] >> >>> And with a small music function like [...] >> >> Excellent, but I would say that only musicians who are also >> programmers and with a good knowledge of Scheme might be able to >> figu

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Antonio Gervasoni gmail.com> writes: > There is one reason: software like Sibelius and Finale need even more tweaks > than Lilypond! For a concrete example of this (never mind the vacation chatter): http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words/blog5.php/2011/07/11/the-year-s-over-and-done Lilypond's coll

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > That's why I like to differentiate between inputting and tweaking. > Inputting is probably much, much faster using the keyboard. [...] > I'm still not sure what the ideal way of inputting and tweaking would > look like. The nice thing about text-based tweaks as compar

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

>> If you have a whole passage of tuplets, then... [...] > >> And with a small music function like [...] > > Excellent, but I would say that only musicians who are also > programmers and with a good knowledge of Scheme might be able to > figure out such solutions. I disagree. All the knowledge

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

s. Antonio -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Sibelius-user-looking-for-the-easiest-way-to-learn-LilyPond-tp6427p139011.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Antonio Gervasoni writes: > Of course, just typing notes in a keyboard may be faster than inputing them > with the mouse but the workflow becomes very slow when you have to > make all the necessary tweaks to get a nice result. Also, there are lots of > different expressions and commands and some

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Shane Brandes wrote: > To give you a reverse opinion. Lilypond at a basic level is fairly > easy to understand especially if you use a program like Frescobaldi to > help you construct the scores with their various parts. This is my experience as well. Writing th

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

To give you a reverse opinion. Lilypond at a basic level is fairly easy to understand especially if you use a program like Frescobaldi to help you construct the scores with their various parts. That initially was to me the greatest challenge. With Frescobaldi you can build scores and then from ther

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Am 03.01.2013 21:54, schrieb james: > My advice, read the learning manual and then task yourself with trying to > copy things of increasing difficulty. I would also say the learning manual is the best starting point (after the section about the text input, that you probably already know): http:

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Jan 3, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Antonio Gervasoni wrote: > John Link nyc.rr.com> writes: > >> >> >> A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond > as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond > produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it > would allow me to do things like spe

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

>> Take for example a tuplet. It requires this expression: \times 2/3 >> { c8 d e }. It's easy if there are just a few tuplets in the >> piece, but it gets much more difficult if these occur quite often, >> even worse if a whole passage, say 10 bars, is comprised only of >> tuplets! > > If you ha

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 03/01/13 12:46, Antonio Gervasoni wrote: Take for example a tuplet. It requires this expression: \times 2/3 { c8 d e }. It's easy if there are just a few tuplets in the piece, but it gets much more difficult if these occur quite often, even worse if a whole passage, say 10 bars, is comprised o

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

John Link nyc.rr.com> writes: > > > A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow me to do things like specify that bars 25 through 32 are to be identical to bars 9 through

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

At Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:00:47 -0400, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > On 14 March 2012 03:01, Keith OHara wrote: > > > Off topic, LilyPond now places the dots equally-spaced from the > > noteheads, in that particular example. > > > >

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 3/14/12 1:28 PM, "Keith OHara" wrote: >On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:20:13 -0700, Neil Puttock >wrote: > >> What happens if I want the old behaviour? Do I have to move the >> Dot_column_engraver back to the Staff context and forgo the >> improvements in more complicated situations? > >Yes. >But,

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:20:13 -0700, Neil Puttock wrote: What happens if I want the old behaviour? Do I have to move the Dot_column_engraver back to the Staff context and forgo the improvements in more complicated situations? Yes. But, somebody made a suggestion on the original enhancement re

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 14 March 2012 03:01, Keith OHara wrote: > Off topic, LilyPond now places the dots equally-spaced from the > noteheads, in that particular example. > > Previously, LilyPond put them all in one column because that was > easier to program

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

vic hug writes: > while beeing a newbie at both Sibelius and Lilypond, and already > embracing the magical freedom superiority of the latest, i recently > had to make a transcript from a manuscript, and for that i used > Sibelius, because i needed to produce sibelius files. This way i could > ent

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

James Harkins gmail.com> writes: > the-year-s-over-and-done> > > I digress a bit in the text, but the point is the 3/8 bar. > In Finale, I'm quite sure you would have to spend(waste) time > adjusting the horizontal position of one or

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 1:29 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2012/3/13 Tim Roberts : >> Amen.  There are people who tell me they can do data entry in Finale >> quite efficiently using a MIDI keyboard, but for me, from a standard >> computer keyboard, entering LilyPond data could not be more efficient.

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

2012/3/13 Tim Roberts : > Amen.  There are people who tell me they can do data entry in Finale > quite efficiently using a MIDI keyboard, but for me, from a standard > computer keyboard, entering LilyPond data could not be more efficient. I used to master Finale's Speedy Entry and liked to sing an

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

James wrote: > Oh if you've ever had to transcribe a piece of 'real' music (by real I > mean an old dog-eared printed complete score that's in the 'wrong' > pitch for your instrument) I cannot believe that typing letters on a > keyboard is anything but *significantly* faster than dragging and > dro

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

For me..After moving to Lilypond 3, 4 years ago..When i changed to NO MOUSE interface..i stoped having headaches couse i didnt have to look in the music sheet for the wrong notes..and didnt have to think of kombinations of keys and clicking with mouse..Now when i typeset music and if i'm not lazy i

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Hello, On 13 March 2012 12:02, Rodolfo Zitellini wrote: ... > If you are used to > finale/sibelius, this is indeed shocking as the first times you use > lilypond it is very difficult to correlate your textual input to what > will end up in the pdf. It took me some deal of time to stop finding

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, John Link wrote: > > On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:42 AM, David Bobroff wrote: > > On 3/11/2012 6:39 PM, John Link wrote: > > A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to > Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told >

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 3/13/2012 10:01 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Stjepan Horvat writes: Did you try to press number 3 in sibelius..i think it would create a third interval..and so on..i'm not sure.. Now this is actually a great example about what makes LilyPond so much better to work in the long run with than Sib

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

2012/3/13 David Kastrup : > Stjepan Horvat writes: > >> Did you try to press number 3 in sibelius..i think it would create a >> third interval..and so on..i'm not sure.. > > Now this is actually a great example about what makes LilyPond so much > better to work in the long run with than Sibelius o

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Stjepan Horvat writes: > Did you try to press number 3 in sibelius..i think it would create a > third interval..and so on..i'm not sure.. Now this is actually a great example about what makes LilyPond so much better to work in the long run with than Sibelius or other GUI/WYSIWYG programs. It su

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

;lilypond-user" > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:09 AM > Subject: Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond > > > > Hi Vaughan, > >> Finale does automatic word extensions for lyrics. > > > Um... so does Lilypond. > > Cheers, >

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

- Original Message - From: "Kieren MacMillan" To: "Vaughan McAlley" Cc: "lilypond-user" Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:09 AM Subject: Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond Hi Vaughan, Finale does automatic word extens

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

Hi Vaughan, > Finale does automatic word extensions for lyrics. Um… so does Lilypond. Cheers, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 13 March 2012 11:44, James Harkins wrote: > At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:02 -0400, > lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: >> Impressive! Can you now create scores as quickly as you used to in >> Finale? I think I can now... I’ve been using Lilypond for about six months now and like James I enjoy

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

At Mon, 12 Mar 2012 12:14:02 -0400, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > Impressive! Can you now create scores as quickly as you used to in > Finale? It's partly a matter of where you want to spend your time. My go-to example is here: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words/blog5.php/2011/07/11/t

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, John Link wrote: > How can I get going in LilyPond as quickly as possible? I suggest reading Learning Manual (http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/learning/index) and then trying typesetting a very simple 1-page score. When you're familiar with the syn

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

John Link writes: > A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to > Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also > told that it would allow me to do things like specify that bars 25 > through 32 are to be identical to bars 9 through 16 and avoid cut

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:01 AM, David Bobroff wrote: On 3/12/2012 1:52 PM, John Link wrote: 1) What is the easiest way to extract parts from a score? A Zen master would reply "mu" (= un-ask the question). "Extracting" parts is a meaningless idea in LilyPond. I thought that might be the c

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:42 AM, David Bobroff wrote: On 3/11/2012 6:39 PM, John Link wrote: A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow me to do things like specify that ba

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 3/12/2012 2:15 PM, John Link wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:01 AM, David Bobroff wrote: On 3/12/2012 1:52 PM, John Link wrote: 1) What is the easiest way to extract parts from a score? A Zen master would reply "mu" (= un-ask the question). "Extracting" parts is a meaningless idea in Li

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 3/12/2012 1:52 PM, John Link wrote: On Mar 12, 2012, at 9:42 AM, David Bobroff wrote: On 3/11/2012 6:39 PM, John Link wrote: A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow

Re: Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

On 3/11/2012 6:39 PM, John Link wrote: A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow me to do things like specify that bars 25 through 32 are to be identical to bars 9 through 1

Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow me to do things like specify that bars 25 through 32 are to be identical to bars 9 through 16 and avoid cutting and pasting fro

Sibelius user looking for the easiest way to learn LilyPond

A few years ago I was encouraged to try LilyPond as an alternative to Sibelius because LilyPond produced more beautiful scores. I was also told that it would allow me to do things like specify that bars 25 through 32 are to be identical to bars 9 through 16 and avoid cutting and pasting fro