Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes If the problem is that you don't know tenor clef yourself and input the music, pretending that it has a bass clef, not a tenor clef, then you will input the music a fifth too low, so you could use \transpose f c' Or

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I think it's much more easier now to tranpose the notes in my head and afterwards write them directly as a staff in bass clef, as Mats Brengtsson proposed. My Idea was to first write the notes in tenor clef so that I can check if I

Re: FW: Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ralph Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi, I've just thought of a good example, and sorry if I sound patronising :( Say you wanted to score a piano-accompanied solo for tenor trombone. A tenor trombone is usually pitched in Bb. Sorry. Wrong! If you mean a tenor

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-19 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I still think that you are confusing things with the issue of transposing instruments, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transposing_instrument. I'm not an expert in brass instruments, but according to that article, trombones

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-19 Thread Stephen
From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:09 PM Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Hi, Roman: My Idea was to first write the notes in tenor clef so that I can check if I did everything wright on an outprint. If you are copying music written for the trombone using the

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Sorry, I don't understand the question. As you say yourself, you just specify the clef using \clef tenor or \clef bass or whatever clef you want. You will get exactly the same pitches, printed according to the clef. On the other hand, of you want to transpose a part by an octave, for example,

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Scott
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Sorry, I don't understand the question. As you say yourself, you just specify the clef using \clef tenor or \clef bass or whatever clef you want. You will get exactly the same pitches, printed according to the clef. On the other hand, of you want to transpose a part by an

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Roman
Hi, I specify my peace of music as a trombone part staffTrombone = { \key c \major \clef tenor \relative c { \time 3/4 c c c ... } } This trombone part should be transposed to bass clef, but I don't know how to do this and would like to let lilypond do the

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As long as the music is notated in the pitch it shold sound, just replace tenor by bass. However, my guess is that your real question is about transposing instruments, where the notation tells what to play, not what it should sound like. In that case, read the section on Transpose in the manual

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Paul Scott
Roman wrote: Hi, I specify my peace of music as a trombone part staffTrombone = { \key c \major \clef tenor \relative c { \time 3/4 c c c ... } } This trombone part should be transposed to bass clef, but I don't know how to do this and would like to let

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Roman
Paul Scott schrieb: staffTrombone = { \key c \major \clef bass% formerly \clef tenor \relative c { \time 3/4 c c c ... } } That's all there is to it. Those C's will appear on the second space of the bass clef instead of just below the tenor staff. You have

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Roman wrote: Okay, but my problem is, that a C in tenor clef isn't a C in bass clef and I don't know how a transposition between them needs to be!? Of course a C is a C, no matter what clef you use. A tenor clef just tells that the middle C is placed on the second line, whereas a bass clef

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread David Bobroff
At 02:27 PM 5/18/2006 +0200, Roman wrote: Paul Scott schrieb: staffTrombone = { \key c \major \clef bass% formerly \clef tenor \relative c { \time 3/4 c c c ... } } That's all there is to it. Those C's will appear on the second space of the bass

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson
As long as you can read tenor clef and input the music with the correct pitches, then it's just to replace \clef tenor with \clef bass, as we have already answered several times. For example, the following code prints the same music notated both with tenor clef and bass clef: \version 2.8.0

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Roman
Mats Bengtsson wrote: Okay, but my problem is, that a C in tenor clef isn't a C in bass clef and I don't know how a transposition between them needs to be!? Of course a C is a C, no matter what clef you use. Okay, that's true, but I thought of a C in a bass clef and a C in a tenor clef

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hi, Roman: Perhaps the following example will make it clear... %% CODE BEGINS \version 2.9.4 \paper { ragged-right = ##t } tromboneNotes = \relative c' { c d es f } \score { { \key c \major \clef tenor \tromboneNotes \clef bass

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, Mats and the others are right. I think you are confusing transposition and the clef that is being used. The clef determines only which lines and spaces the notes will appear on. Which ever clef you use, the notes remain the same. Changing the clef does not change the notes, just the lines and

FW: Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Little
Hi, I've just thought of a good example, and sorry if I sound patronising :( Say you wanted to score a piano-accompanied solo for tenor trombone. A tenor trombone is usually pitched in Bb. You could enter the music for the trombone in concert pitch. So for a C scale: \relative c' { c d

FW: Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Ralph Little
- From: Ralph Little Sent: 18 May 2006 15:46 To: 'lilypond-user@gnu.org' Subject: FW: Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass Hi, I've just thought of a good example, and sorry if I sound patronising :( Say you wanted to score a piano-accompanied solo for tenor trombone. A tenor trombone

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Stephen
From: Roman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:06 AM Mats Bengtsson wrote: Okay, but my problem is, that a C in tenor clef isn't a C in bass clef and I don't know how a transposition between them needs to be!? Of course a C is a C, no matter what clef you use. Okay, that's

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Roman
Stephen wrote: If the trombonists use the bass clef, but the sounds an octave higher, this is how you write that: staffTrombone = { \key c \major \clef bass \transposition c'' \transpose c c, { \relative c' { c d es f } } } \book { \score { \staffTrombone

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hi, Roman: My Idea was to first write the notes in tenor clef so that I can check if I did everything wright on an outprint. Afterwars I wanted to transpose everything with one command into a bass clef staff with appropriate transposed notes in the bass clef staff, but that doesn't seem to

Re: clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-18 Thread Roman
Kieren Richard MacMillan wrote: Hi, Roman: My Idea was to first write the notes in tenor clef so that I can check if I did everything wright on an outprint. Afterwars I wanted to transpose everything with one command into a bass clef staff with appropriate transposed notes in the bass clef

clef transposition: tenor - bass

2006-05-17 Thread Roman
Hi, I have a peace of music, written in \clef tenor wich I should have in \clef bass all notes transposed correctly. How can I transpose these clefs with Lilypond 2.6?? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org