grace note spacing

2010-11-14 Thread Martin Kemp
Dear All I've struggled with this one for some time now and would appreciate any help: How can I move a single \grace note closer to the note that it precedes? I've tried many permutations eg. \override Score.GraceSpacing #'spacing-increment = #** but whilst I can move further away, I do not see

bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please have a look at this example. ``` { \omit Staff.TimeSignature \repeat unfold 16 { \grace e'8 d'4 } \break \repeat unfold 8 { \grace e'8 d'4 } } \paper { indent = 0 } ``` As can be seen, the spacing between grace notes and the corresponding main notes increases if the overall spacing

Re: grace note spacing

2010-11-14 Thread Mark Polesky
Martin Kemp wrote: > How can I move a single \grace note closer to the note > that it precedes? I've tried many permutations eg. > \override Score.GraceSpacing #'spacing-increment = #** > but whilst I can move further away, I do not seem to be > able to get closer. Not sure off the top of my head

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 17 févr. 2023 à 12:08, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > >  > Please have a look at this example. > > ``` > { > \omit Staff.TimeSignature > \repeat unfold 16 { \grace e'8 d'4 } \break > \repeat unfold 8 { \grace e'8 d'4 } > } > > \paper { indent = 0 } > ``` > > As can be seen, the spacing

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Try playing around with spacing parameters. As a starting point: > > \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-grace-spacing = ##t I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some accidentals it produces bad output. This is now https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6533

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le vendredi 17 février 2023 à 18:42 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > ``` > > > Try playing around with spacing parameters. As a starting point: > > > > \override Score.SpacingSpanner.strict-grace-spacing = ##t > > I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some > accidentals it prod

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some >> accidentals it produces bad output. > > Doesn't that sound more like the issue should be > "strict-grace-spacing produces bad output if grace note has > accidental" rather than "strict-grace-spacing should be the > default"? The

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>>> I tried that, but as soon as a group of grace notes has some >>> accidentals it produces bad output. >> >> Doesn't that sound more like the issue should be >> "strict-grace-spacing produces bad output if grace note has >> accidental" rather than "strict-grace-spacing should be the >> default

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-17 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 18 févr. 2023 à 00:10, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > > The issue I filed is not related to `strict-grace-spacing` at all. It’s quite related. In strict-grace-spacing mode, grace columns are not part of the main chain of springs that goes through the whole system from column to columns and

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> The issue I filed is not related to `strict-grace-spacing` at all. > > It’s quite related. [...] With 'related' I meant that there are two separate bugs. I didn't talk about what the best fix for the whole problem actually is. > In strict-grace-spacing mode, grace columns are not part of t

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
> Le 18 févr. 2023 à 09:01, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > >  >>> The issue I filed is not related to `strict-grace-spacing` at all. >> >> It’s quite related. [...] > > With 'related' I meant that there are two separate bugs. I didn't > talk about what the best fix for the whole problem actua

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-18 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le samedi 18 février 2023 à 08:01 +, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : > ``` > > >> The issue I filed is not related to `strict-grace-spacing` at all. > > > > It’s quite related.  [...] > > With 'related' I meant that there are two separate bugs.  I didn't > talk about what the best fix for the whole

Re: bad grace note spacing

2023-02-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I missed it at first, but it's actually very easy in your example. Thanks, added to #6533. Werner

grace-note spacing and triplets

2016-03-22 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi all, I have a problem spacing grace notes under a series of triplets. In the example, the grace notes produce a big gap between the tuplets or collide with the accidentals. As this situation is evident a few times, I will probably use extra-offset and place either the grace notes or the a

Re: grace-note spacing and triplets

2016-03-22 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hi Jan-Peter, On 22.03.2016 15:10, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote: Hi all, I have a problem spacing grace notes under a series of triplets. In the example, the grace notes produce a big gap between the tuplets or collide with the accidentals. It’s an annoying bug that this isn’t handled nicely, and

Re: grace-note spacing and triplets

2016-03-22 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-03-22 15:10 GMT+01:00 Jan-Peter Voigt : > Hi all, > > I have a problem spacing grace notes under a series of triplets. In the > example, the grace notes produce a big gap between the tuplets or collide > with the accidentals. > > As this situation is evident a few times, I will probably use ex

Re: grace-note spacing and triplets

2016-03-23 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Simon, thank you for your snippet! In my case, I will use the extra-offset variant, but I'll take yours for future use :-) As there is a whole orchestra between flute and voice, I use this as acceptable tweak: \once \override NoteHead.extra-offset = #'(-1.5 . 0) \once \override Stem.

Re: grace-note spacing and triplets

2016-03-23 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Harm, this is interesting!? This is another very smart solution, but why/how does this work? I will look for a way, to add the TextScript with the edition-engraver ... The rest-solution is handy, but OTOH not easily applicable "externally". By the way, I tried succesfully 's4' instead of '\

Re: Grace note spacing & alignment in score

2023-06-15 Thread Lib Lists
Hi, Here is a hack, and among the various things to be fixed, the beam thickness of the fake grace notes needs to be checked more carefully against the 'real' grace notes. I calculated the starting point of the fake grace according to the percussion part, so it begins on the upbeat of the 3rd beat.

Re: Grace note spacing & alignment in score

2023-06-20 Thread Michael Seifert
Hey there Lib, Thanks for that — and sorry for the delayed reply. I was hoping that there would be some combination of overrides that could be set to fix the spacing automatically (SpacingSpanner.strict-grace-spacing in combination with something else?) but this will work, faut

Re: Grace note spacing & alignment in score

2023-06-20 Thread Lib Lists
Hi Michael, I'm also interested in knowing if there's a better solution, but in the end this is fairly easy to implement, and one can decide how compressed the grace spacing is by changing its duration. In the example you posted it makes sense to have the grace notes starting with the percussion u

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-18 Thread David Kastrup
Ben Beeson writes: > Hi, > > I have been struggling with how to get harmonies to align with the main > line of a tune when inputting "seconds" for bagpipe music. The goal is > to get the main tune on one staff with the seconds on a separate staff. > I also want the seconds aligned with the main

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-18 Thread Ben Beeson
Hi David, Thanks for pointing me to the issue 34 link. I did not know about that before. After reading all that material late last night, I am realizing that the fix is going to be a tough one. I guess I was hoping that I just missed something simple. Who knew that I was about to walk into a mi

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-18 Thread David Kastrup
Ben Beeson writes: > Hi David, > > Thanks for pointing me to the issue 34 link. I did not know about that > before. After reading all that material late last night, I am realizing > that the fix is going to be a tough one. I guess I was hoping that I > just missed something simple. Who knew th

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
\new Staff = "GHB" << \new Voice { \SecondVoice } >> >> } Trevor - Original Message - From: "Ben Beeson" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 2:59 AM Subject: Re: Grace note spacing

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-21 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ben you wrote Friday, December 21, 2012 5:29 AM > I am stumped, but happy. I say that because LilyPond renders the tune > correctly and does not error on bar checks etc unless you have the > second \time 3/4 in the score block. I know that removing the second > \time 3/4 from the score block fi

Re: Grace note spacing and barcheck difficulty in bagpipe music

2012-12-21 Thread Ben Beeson
Hi Trevor, Thanks for pointing that out to me. I will remember that. Cheers and Thanks Again, Ben On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 09:06 +, Trevor Daniels wrote: > Ben you wrote Friday, December 21, 2012 5:29 AM > > > I am stumped, but happy. I say that because LilyPond renders the tune > > corre