removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Chris Jones
I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural signs that I see in lilypond's output. I coded this: | global = { | \time 4/4 | \key g \major | \tempo \markup { \concat {Mouv. \super t} de Marche} | } | | #(set-global-staff-size 16.5) | | melody = \rel

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Ben
On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural signs that I see in lilypond's output. I coded this: | global = { | \time 4/4 | \key g \major | \tempo \markup { \concat {Mouv. \super t} de Marche} | } | | #(set-global

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Ben
On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural signs that I see in lilypond's output. I coded this: | global = { | \time 4/4 | \key g \major | \tempo \markup { \concat {Mouv. \super t} de Marche} | } | | #(set-global

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Ben
( On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural signs that I see in lilypond's output. | melody = \relative c { | \global | \partial 16 d'16 \bar "||" | \set melismaBusyProperties = #'() |

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Dec 2017 at 14:09:31 (-0500), Chris Jones wrote: > I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural signs > that I see in lilypond's output. > > I coded this: > > | global = { > | \time 4/4 > | \key g \major > | \tempo \markup { \concat {Mouv. \super t} d

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 8. Dezember 2017 20:22:32 MEZ schrieb Ben : >( >On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> I would need some help removing the autmatically generated natural >signs >> that I see in lilypond's output. >> >> | melody = \relative c { >> | \global >> | \partial 16 d'16

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Ben
On 12/8/2017 2:58 PM, Urs Liska wrote: (from documentation) "... To determine whether to print an *accidental*, LilyPond examines the pitches and the key signature. The key signature only affects the */printed/***accidentals, not the note’s pitch! --> This is a feature that often causes confu

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Urs, > But to be fair one should note that there are serious encoding systems out > there that work like the OP expects, for example the MEI encoding format or > the Amadeus notation software. > When I discussed the topic with an Amadeus power user he said that he would > go nuts with all the

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 8. Dezember 2017 21:06:05 MEZ schrieb Ben : >On 12/8/2017 2:58 PM, Urs Liska wrote: >> >>> (from documentation) >>> "... >>> >>> To determine whether to print an *accidental*, LilyPond examines the >>> pitches and the key signature. The key signature only affects the >>> */printed/***accidenta

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Noeck
Hi, this isa bad hack I would not recommend, but you *could* revert the key back to c major without showing it: \relative { \key g \major c' \once \omit Staff.KeyCancellation \key c \major d e f g a b c } Midi, transposition etc. will be broken, of course. Cheers, Joram _

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 08.12.2017 20:09, Chris Jones wrote: Wouldn't this become rather painful/tedious if the gentleman who wrote this particular song had had the bright idea of transposing it to a fancier key like... G# major for instance? If that were the case I would have to add an "is" to just about every sing

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 08.12.2017 20:58, Urs Liska wrote: I think this is a great way to explain this concept. And I also belong to the party of those who want to write down (encode) what it*is* and not what it looks like. However, sometimes in ancient music accidentals are _not_ part of the actual content, bu

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:22:32PM EST, Ben wrote: > ( > On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > > (from documentation) > "... > > To determine whether to print an *accidental*, LilyPond examines the pitches > and the key signature. The key signature only affects the > */printed/***accide

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 03:23:35PM EST, Noeck wrote: > Hi, > > this isa bad hack I would not recommend, but you *could* revert the key > back to c major without showing it: > > \relative { > \key g \major > c' > \once \omit Staff.KeyCancellation > \key c \major > d e f g a b c > } > >

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread David Kastrup
Chris Jones writes: > But that is precisely the documentation I have been reading over and > over without being able to quite understand the implications. > > And I think that my problem lies with the last word: "... hear". > > Since I am not a musician but a mere scribe when I am looking at sh

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 03:30:00PM EST, Simon Albrecht wrote: > On 08.12.2017 20:09, Chris Jones wrote: > > Wouldn't this become rather painful/tedious if the gentleman who wrote > > this particular song had had the bright idea of transposing it to > > a fancier key like... G# major for instance? >

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Chris Jones
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 04:40:51PM EST, David Kastrup wrote: > Chris Jones writes: > [..] > > Don't underestinmate the anonymous grease monkeys in printers' shops. Far from my intention I can assure you. As a matter of fact without being an expert I have great respect for quality typesetting,

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-08 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 08.12.2017 23:18, Chris Jones wrote: As a matter of fact without being an expert I have great respect for quality typesetting, past and present... paper-oriented or digital. Quality typesetting requires some degree of understanding about what you are typesetting; so if you’re going to do qu

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-10 Thread David Wright
On Fri 08 Dec 2017 at 16:21:41 (-0500), Chris Jones wrote: > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:22:32PM EST, Ben wrote: > > ( > > On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > > [..] > > > > (from documentation) > > "... > > > > To determine whether to print an *accidental*, LilyPond examines the pitches >

Re: removing automatically generated natural signs

2017-12-11 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 03:16:12PM EST, David Wright wrote: > On Fri 08 Dec 2017 at 16:21:41 (-0500), Chris Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:22:32PM EST, Ben wrote: > > > ( > > > On 12/8/2017 2:09 PM, Chris Jones wrote: [..] > This response seems to invite a brief explanation. > > You