Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread jore
On 23/01/2015 1:10 PM, Jim Birch wrote: > It is certainly what allows some the "advanced" life of humans... Hey Jim, I can see what you're saying, but I still disagree with your human supremacist views. We can agree to disagree. But beyond that, we're still talking about this culture. For insta

Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread Frank O'Connor
Personally, I don't have a lot of time for either the 'What a Work is Man' argument or the sanctity of Nature arguments. The bottom line is that if we were even remotely collectively intelligent we would realise that you can't keep dumping your garbage in a closed system (the world), and you ca

Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread jore
Hey there Nice to see more thoughts. On 23/01/2015 9:45 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote: > At some stage we may push the environment into a new climate equilibrium ... > which would be bad, and which at the moment we have very few means of > reversing ... which probably won't kill all of us, but it wi

Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread JanW
Just watched this one. BBC production. Multiple points of view. Explains why neolib/con (whatever you want to call it) is a dead end for all of us, globally. Thanks for prodding, Jore. There is so much in this one that anyone who votes needs to understand. The two main parties in Australia are as

Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread Tom Worthington
On 22/01/15 08:36, I wrote: > ... Changing climate ... may well increase the risk of global nuclear > war ... The Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Science and Security appear to agree. They have advanced the hands of the "Doomsday Clock" to 3 Minutes To Midnight". This is in respo

Re: [LINK] Surviving Climate Change

2015-01-23 Thread jore
On 24/01/2015 12:50 PM, Tom Worthington wrote: > The Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists Science and > Security appear to agree. They have advanced the hands of the > "Doomsday Clock" to 3 Minutes To Midnight". This is in response to > "... unchecked climate change and a nuclear arms rac