Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread David Boxall
On 29/03/2016 1:38 PM, Paul Brooks wrote: What I'm getting at is that, ... It seems we agree that there is an issue, but my characterisation of the ABS data is semantically imprecise. I argue that my characterisation is accurate enough to communicate the issue. -- David Boxall

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Michael
On 29 March 2016 at 14:39, Karl Auer (and Paul) wrote: >> around the 1 Mbps level >Which EVERY ADSL user has on their outbound link. Mostly about half >that. When I work from home there is a specific system I use that requires a virtual desktop. It is unusable after

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Paul Brooks
On 29/03/2016 1:17 PM, David Boxall wrote: > On 29/03/2016 12:54 PM, Paul Brooks wrote: >> ... averaged over the whole population, data volume consumed can grow >> considerably each month even though actual bandwidth doesn't need to grow >> nearly as >> much. >> ... > Which is where your argument

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Paul Brooks
What I'm getting at is that, over the course of a month or 6 months, the average broadband link utilisation is less than 1%. Sure there are instantaneous peaks when somebody is actually trying to do something, but most of the time the link is idle. If the average link was (say) 10 Mbps, then

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread David Boxall
On 29/03/2016 12:54 PM, Paul Brooks wrote: ... averaged over the whole population, data volume consumed can grow considerably each month even though actual bandwidth doesn't need to grow nearly as much. ... Which is where your argument fails. If the average grows, then so probably does the

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Paul Brooks
On 29/03/2016 8:19 AM, David Boxall wrote: > On 28/03/2016 11:36 PM, Paul Brooks wrote: >> ... >> The ABS measures data volume transferred not link capacity or bandwidth - >> these two >> aspects are only loosely related with each other. >> Data volume can increase by many times without link

[LINK] Apple Wins, FBI wins

2016-03-28 Thread Jan Whitaker
FBI accesses iPhone without Apple breaking security. Not sure what this means for the actual security of iPhones now. https://theintercept.com/2016/03/28/fbi-got-into-san-bernardino-killers-iphone-without-apples-help/ Jan I write books. http://janwhitaker.com/?page_id=8 Melbourne, Victoria,

Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

2016-03-28 Thread David Boxall
On 29/03/2016 9:39 AM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On 28/03/16 09:15, Tom Worthington wrote: The most interesting aspect of Mark Gregory's article in the Business Spectator is the idea of the NBN satellites being used to provide broadband for passengers on Qantas aircraft. It seems reasonable for

[LINK] Fwd: Re: The wonders of NBN

2016-03-28 Thread JanW
Linkers, You may remember that I wrote to Senator Fiona Nash last month about the NBN fiasco as David shared re the people in Tasmania. (original message below for reference) I got a reply today -- from someone in the Dept of Communications and the Arts, via a no-reply delivery system, with a

Re: [LINK] Does NBN need a third satellite?

2016-03-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On 28/03/16 09:15, Tom Worthington wrote: The most interesting aspect of Mark Gregory's article in the Business Spectator is the idea of the NBN satellites being used to provide broadband for passengers on Qantas aircraft. It seems reasonable for taxpayers to buy a satellite for outback kids

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2016-03-28 at 23:36 +1100, Paul Brooks wrote: > Except that's not what the ABS stats measure or show at all. > The ABS measures data volume transferred not link capacity or > bandwidth - these two aspects are only loosely related with each > other. Data volume can increase by many

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread David Boxall
On 28/03/2016 11:36 PM, Paul Brooks wrote: ... The ABS measures data volume transferred not link capacity or bandwidth - these two aspects are only loosely related with each other. Data volume can increase by many times without link bandwidth changing at all. ... I'd be interested to see

Re: [LINK] A non-sensationalist look at Australian internet speeds

2016-03-28 Thread Paul Brooks
Except that's not what the ABS stats measure or show at all. The ABS measures data volume transferred not link capacity or bandwidth - these two aspects are only loosely related with each other. Data volume can increase by many times without link bandwidth changing at all. Original