Re: [linux] Linux OS - Made in Canada?

2023-03-05 Thread BCLUG
Alan McKay wrote on 2023-03-05 17:47: Actually I was going to say to all the Ubuntu naysayers earlier that they actually have a pretty substantial footprint here in Ottawa in terms of people that they employ. I did not know that! Check careers on their website to confirm. Odd, I can't

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread BCLUG
r...@echlin.ca wrote on 2023-03-05 15:05: What I would like to do on each of my family's "3" Ubuntu boxes that are "All Different". * Script or command to read the list of apps installed:   * ignores all those installed as requirements   * Ignores all those automatically installed   * I

Re: [linux] Linux OS - Made in Canada?

2023-03-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 20:47:02 -0500 Alan McKay wrote: > Actually I was going to say to all the Ubuntu naysayers earlier that > they actually have a pretty substantial footprint here in Ottawa in > terms of people that they employ. The location of Canonical employees does not change my opinion of

Re: [linux] Linux OS - Made in Canada?

2023-03-05 Thread Alan McKay
Actually I was going to say to all the Ubuntu naysayers earlier that they actually have a pretty substantial footprint here in Ottawa in terms of people that they employ. Check careers on their website to confirm. No it's not 100% made in Canada but they sure provide a lot of good jobs here --

[linux] Linux OS - Made in Canada?

2023-03-05 Thread Allan Fields
Complete newbie looking for advise.. I want to use a Linux OS, but I want to use a Linux distribution that is "Made in Canada". I have not any recent experience installing such at home. Would anybody have any pointers, or wish headlong to do this? (Perhaps forcing them to make in the

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Alan McKay
I don't think landscape really is a competitor to ansible or puppet that must be the marketing department that put that in there. I guess in a very broad sense it is. But it gives you a nice web gui to manage everything. But it is pretty powerful and you don't have to manage them all the same

Re: [linux] Getting list of manually-installed packages (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread rob
Hi Diane, Thanks, I never heard of apt-mark. Rob On 2023-03-05 17:42, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:21:08 -0500 r...@echlin.ca wrote: Gotta map out the apps I installed, different for each machine. Not all the apps, libs, drivers, and apps-required-by-this-app, just the apps I

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob
Hi Alan, I read from the docs that "Landscape" is a competitor for Puppet or Ansible. You can manage your deployment of multiple servers in groups, and keep their systems identical. Just to clarify: What I would like to do on each of my family's "3" Ubuntu boxes that are "All Different".

[linux] Getting list of manually-installed packages (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:21:08 -0500 r...@echlin.ca wrote: > Gotta map out the apps I installed, different for each machine. > Not all the apps, libs, drivers, and apps-required-by-this-app, just > the apps I manually installed. > Are there any tools for that? On Debian (and probably Ubuntu):

Re: [linux] Canonical (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 17:35:59 -0500 J C Nash wrote: > Ubuntu has helped raise usage of Linux, especially Debian and Mint > and MX. But they've also introduced some slime. Fortunately, with > open source, we can largely avoid the lock-in that Windows and MacOS > entail. That is indeed the saving

Re: [linux] Canonical (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread J C Nash
I've been using Mint for several years now and been relatively happy. I've also tried Debian and MX and installed them with reasonable satisfaction. In technology, personalities often move the frontier, but also cause great upset and hurt: - Steve Jobs - (choose your Micro$oft personality) -

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Alan McKay
Yes there are tools for that it is called landscape from canonical and it is one of the strong reasons to use Ubuntu in spite of whatever you think the privacy reasons might be Those five free licenses you've been talking about are five free licenses for landscape With landscape you can

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 2023-03-05 12:43, mail forjeff.com wrote: Agreed.  Ubuntu lost my vote long ago too for too many reasons to list here.  The 5 free licenses is likely just an intro to a bigger plan to turn into a pay only model.  No thanks.  I am sure many of us run more than 5 instances at home.  

[linux] Canonical (was Re: Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository)

2023-03-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 15:01:06 -0500 "Stephen M. Webb" wrote: > > I've never understood the appeal of Ubuntu. It's really no better > > than Debian and Canonical is a really crappy company with a toxic > > CEO and a dreadful work environment (check Glassdoor reviews...) > Can't leave this

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Katherine Mcmillan
The *BSD distros are also a fine choice:​ Great for "grandmas and web developers"! We recently got OSCAR EMR working on OpenBSD using the .deb install, excellent enhancement to security. runs​ -Katie From: Stephen M. Webb Sent: 05 March 2023 15:01 Cc:

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread BCLUG
r...@echlin.ca wrote on 2023-03-05 08:37: Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled:   imagemagick libopenexr25 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6   imagemagick-6.q16 libeditorconfig0 libmagickcore-6.q16-6   imagemagick-6-common Learn more about

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Stephen M. Webb
On 2023-03-05 13:00, Dianne Skoll wrote: > On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 11:37:19 -0500 > r...@echlin.ca wrote: > >> Looks like its Debian Time. (Any time is Debian Time.) >> What are your takes on this? > > I've never understood the appeal of Ubuntu. It's really no better than > Debian and Canonical is

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob
I detect a consensus: I thought I posted this on the OCLUG list? Thanks for all the support for Debian. Now to choose a time to wedge this huge unsafe change into my schedule. Separately for each machine (3, I think). Gotta map out the apps I installed, different for each machine. Not all the

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 11:37:19 -0500 r...@echlin.ca wrote: > Looks like its Debian Time. (Any time is Debian Time.) > What are your takes on this? I've never understood the appeal of Ubuntu. It's really no better than Debian and Canonical is a really crappy company with a toxic CEO and a dreadful

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread James
Do you need the LTS version? You could switch to the regular version. Mar. 5, 2023 11:37:24 r...@echlin.ca: > Hi > > this message is part of my apt upgrade response: > > Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled: >   imagemagick libopenexr25

Re: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread mail forjeff . com
Agreed. Ubuntu lost my vote long ago too for too many reasons to list here. The 5 free licenses is likely just an intro to a bigger plan to turn into a pay only model. No thanks. I am sure many of us run more than 5 instances at home. Specially those who like to tinker. Jeff

RE: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread msoulier
Ubuntu blows. All my boxes run Debian. Original message From: r...@echlin.ca Date: 2023-03-05 11:37 (GMT-05:00) To: linux-Ottawa Subject: [linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository Hi this message is part of my apt upgrade response: Get more security updates

[linux] Ubuntu LTS no longer updates Universe repository

2023-03-05 Thread rob
Hi this message is part of my apt upgrade response: Get more security updates through Ubuntu Pro with 'esm-apps' enabled: imagemagick libopenexr25 libmagickcore-6.q16-6-extra libmagickwand-6.q16-6 imagemagick-6.q16 libeditorconfig0 libmagickcore-6.q16-6 imagemagick-6-common Learn more

Re: [linux] Re: reMarkable 2

2023-03-05 Thread Jean-Francois Messier
Sounds very interesting. I also understand that this linuxwacom project can turn your device into an input device to other graphical apps like GIMP so the move of your hands is much more natural than whatever you could you with a usual mouse. I'm looking forward to see such demo. Thanks