Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Stephen M. Webb
On 16-05-31 06:32 PM, Charles MacDonald wrote: > On 16-05-31 08:47 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote: > Then there's the deb vs. rpm dichotomy, and we will not > > Is packaging really even a worry when developing? > > the programmer will just be doing "make install" until they are happy with > the code

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Ternary computing?

2016-05-31 Thread Alex Pilon
> On 16-05-31 04:31 PM, Alex Pilon wrote: > > Both rpm, dpkg, and apt are showing their age. On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 04:41:57PM -0400, ProfJCNash wrote: > When binary is just not enough. Binary what? In practice, you can, and will after a non-large amount of time, if using many environments, hit

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Michael Soulier
That depends greatly on their environment. On May 31, 2016 6:32:01 PM EDT, Charles MacDonald wrote: >On 16-05-31 08:47 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote: > Then there's the deb vs. rpm dichotomy, and we will not > >Is packaging really even a worry when developing? > >the programmer will just be doing "

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Charles MacDonald
On 16-05-31 08:47 AM, Stephen M. Webb wrote: Then there's the deb vs. rpm dichotomy, and we will not Is packaging really even a worry when developing? the programmer will just be doing "make install" until they are happy with the code, and then they can just use a tool to build the RPM and th

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Ternary computing?

2016-05-31 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 16/05/31, ProfJCNash wrote: > When binary is just not enough. /me ^5s jcnash! :D > On 16-05-31 04:31 PM, Alex Pilon wrote: > > Both rpm, dpkg, and apt are showing their age. slainte mhath, RGB -- Richard Guy Briggs -- ~\-- ~\ -- \__

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] setting up a Linux development environment

2016-05-31 Thread Rick Leir
> training clients asked whether there are > any docs to lead them through how to set up a proper linux > development environment if their org has never done that Maybe the Yocto docs, or OpenEmbedded, or the device tree docs if you are looking at kernel dev. But the first challenge is to loc

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Ternary computing?

2016-05-31 Thread Adam Saunders
To be fair, replacing binary and library management with packaged solutions is a lot friendlier for the average user, and encourages safer computer practices (e.g. get new software from your package manager instead of some random website). Sincerely, Adam Saunders, B.A., M.A. Phil., J.D. Barri

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] Ternary computing?

2016-05-31 Thread ProfJCNash
When binary is just not enough. On 16-05-31 04:31 PM, Alex Pilon wrote: > Both rpm, dpkg, and apt are showing their age. ___ Linux mailing list Linux@lists.oclug.on.ca http://oclug.on.ca/mailman/listinfo/linux

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Alex Pilon
> Then there's the deb vs. rpm dichotomy, - CPIO is a superior package format, PERIOD. - The package manager is what matters THOUGH. - Both rpm, dpkg, and apt are showing their age. No comment on whether the replacements in those distros are even decent. > and we will not mention vi vs. emacs b

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Stephen M. Webb
On 16-05-31 07:28 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > recently, a couple of my training clients asked whether there are > any docs to lead them through how to set up a proper linux development > environment if their org has never done that before, and i had to > admit, i was unaware of any. in parti

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread ProfJCNash
This interests me i.e., a sensible start for Linux development environment. However, I'm at a conference in Toronto starting tomorrow and not going to be at OCLUG this month. JN On 16-05-31 07:28 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > recently, a couple of my training clients asked whether there are

[OCLUG-Tech] anyone up for an OCLUG discussion on how to set up a linux dev environment?

2016-05-31 Thread Robert P. J. Day
recently, a couple of my training clients asked whether there are any docs to lead them through how to set up a proper linux development environment if their org has never done that before, and i had to admit, i was unaware of any. in particular, if one wanted to put together a work environment