Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSE Linux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I just couldn't pass this one up... > The download location for the latest SuSE Linux Enterprise Server is: > ftp://nozzle.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/sles7-beta/31-bit/cd1/ > ftp://nozzle.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/sles7-beta/31-bit/cd2/ > OK, we are going to download this from a FTP site. > > Tria

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSE Linux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Mike Ross
>I just couldn't pass this one up... > > > The download location for the latest SuSE Linux Enterprise Server is: > > ftp://nozzle.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/sles7-beta/31-bit/cd1/ > > ftp://nozzle.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/sles7-beta/31-bit/cd2/ > > >OK, we are going to download this from a FTP site.

Re: SUSE install on a OS/390 LPAR

2002-02-02 Thread Ken Dreger: Dr. \"D\"
Well, this is what I finally tried: SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # ls SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # rmmod dasd rmmod: module dasd is not loaded SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # insmod dasd dasd=4c0 Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/block/dasd.o SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # dasdfmt -n 4c0 -b 4096 Now my

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSE Linux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers Which SuSE field representative was this Mike? I was wandering around the IBM booth, on Wednesday, nearly all that day, I wasn't approached by any of them, although Jim Elliot did concede that someone was there, from that company. Also

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of

2002-02-02 Thread Alan Cox
> I did reread the press release. It says "After the 60-days trial period you > might decide to purchase the full product, or you return the software back to > SuSE". > > Now, since you downloaded it, to return the software, are you suppose to upload > it? One would assume you uuencode the files

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSELinux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Tom Duerbusch
I did reread the press release. It says "After the 60-days trial period you might decide to purchase the full product, or you return the software back to SuSE". Now, since you downloaded it, to return the software, are you suppose to upload it? (You must be working too muchno sense of humor

Re: GNU Public Licence

2002-02-02 Thread Phil Payne
> >I'm not actually saying anything different. I wish SuSE well in their > >efforts to sell maintenance and support - it's a major requirement for > >corporate acceptance. > > Agreed entirely. Remember though, the nice thing about open-source is that, > if you're a big/confident enough outfit, yo

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of S uSELinux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, He may or may not be working too much, but he's right. The 60-day trial period software can only be obtained as a no-charge set of CDs, not as a download. The free beta download is not considered "trial period software" and is not time-limited, and hence doesn't have to be returned. Sorry

Re: GNU Public Licence

2002-02-02 Thread Phil Payne
> I don't know about others, but I would tend to consider the > distribution and vendor's support together; if I want a support > contract for SuSE Linux, SuSE would have the inside running. Very true, but it's a bit of a chicken-and-egg situation - you would only start serious evaluation of a di

Re: RH 7.2 for 390

2002-02-02 Thread Rob van der Heij
Dave Myers wrote: > I did it twice now and using FTP to their site, the install > runs in about 3-5 hours. That obviously depends on distance and bandwidth, and there are a lot of mirrors over the world. If you do multiple installs it might be nice to have your own copy on an FTP or NFS server (

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSELinux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Mike Ross
>I did reread the press release. It says "After the 60-days trial period >you >might decide to purchase the full product, or you return the software back >to >SuSE". > >Now, since you downloaded it, to return the software, are you suppose to >upload >it? > >(You must be working too muchno sen

Re: SUSE install on a OS/390 LPAR

2002-02-02 Thread Post, Mark K
If you're formatting a full volume 3390, it can take a while. You should have gotten a message indicating you're going to wipe out all the data on the volume, etc., etc., and requiring a response to continue. If you didn't get that, something else has gone wrong. Try telneting in to a different

Re: OT: editor discussions

2002-02-02 Thread David Boyes
> Of *course* Teco exists for Linux: > ftp://ftp.mindlink.net/pub/teco/ptf_teco.tar.gz I *know* it exists. I just want it installed by default...8-)

Re: OT: editor discussions

2002-02-02 Thread David Boyes
Just fired up my PDP-10 emulator, and looked. VTECO (at least on my system, a clone of one of the Stanford res packs) is a TECO macro. -- db - Original Message - From: "Alan Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:16 AM Subject: Re: OT: editor d

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions ofSuSELinux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread Tom Duerbusch
OK, you're right. They kind of ran the press release together. They actually announced 3 packages. 1. The beta, available from the download site. 2. The Trial version, free for 60 days. 3. The evaulation version, $500 for 6 months with full support. While they were at it, they could have in

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of SuSE Linux Enterprise Server for S/390 andzSeries

2002-02-02 Thread David Boyes
> N... re-read the press release (which as I commented earlier may well be > unofficial and inaccurate, based on conversation with a Suse guy at > Linuxworld). There are three 'test' options: download the beta, get GA on a > free 60-day trial on CDROM, or get GA on a 6-month evaluation, with s

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of

2002-02-02 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine writing for myself One would need to assume certain things about that press release. And I for one think it was miss-aimed. That the recipients on this list know what it means, is obvious. But there is still something wrong with it, and it is enough to give Hamlet a fit.

Re: SUSE install on a OS/390 LPAR

2002-02-02 Thread Ken Dreger: Dr. \"D\"
here is the latest try: SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # rmmod dasd -a SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # insmod dasd dasd=4c0-4c4 Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/block/dasd.o insmod: a module named dasd already exists SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # rmmod dasd SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # insmod dasd dasd=4

Re: SuSE: Announcement of beta,trial and evaluation versions of

2002-02-02 Thread John Summerfield
> > I did reread the press release. It says "After the 60-days trial period yo > u > > might decide to purchase the full product, or you return the software back > to > > SuSE". > > > > Now, since you downloaded it, to return the software, are you suppose to up > load > > it? > > One would assume

Re: SUSE install on a OS/390 LPAR

2002-02-02 Thread Ferguson, Neale
What model DASD is it? There is a fix required to stop hangs when formatting 3390-9 volumes. > -Original Message- > here is the latest try: > SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # rmmod dasd -a > SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # insmod dasd dasd=4c0-4c4 > Using /lib/modules/2.2.16/block/dasd.o > i

Re: SUSE install on a OS/390 LPAR

2002-02-02 Thread Ken Dreger: Dr. \"D\"
should be a 3390-3 ken At 06:13 PM 2/2/2002, Ferguson, Neale wrote: >What model DASD is it? There is a fix required to stop hangs when formatting >3390-9 volumes. > > > -Original Message- > > here is the latest try: > > SuSE Instsys linuxlpar:/root # rmmod dasd -a > > SuSE Instsys linuxlp