Re: Pop Timer Patch

2002-08-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Tom, Like I said, it was a stupid, but necessary question. Sigh. It's a lot easier dealing with mistakes than figuring out new problems. :) I got an off-list email informing me that IBM has a new version of the patch that tries to be more intelligent and turn jiffies off only when the system

OT (for the Linux folks): Original VM/370 sales presentation

2002-08-30 Thread David Boyes
One of the things that surfaced at the 30th anniversary party for VM in San Francisco was a miraculously intact copy of the original 1972 VM/370 sales presentation intended for explaining what benefit VM/370 had for customers. The presentation (a collection of 35mm slides and a presentation

Re: Stupid idea?

2002-08-30 Thread McKown, John
Mark, Wonderful - thanks for the link! -- John McKown Senior Technical Specialist UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stupid idea?

2002-08-30 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Velocity Software has, if you contact them I sure they would be willing to ship you one. -Original Message- From: McKown, John [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stupid idea? I've seen a number of posts here about

Re: OT (for the Linux folks): Original VM/370 sales presentation

2002-08-30 Thread Alex deVries
Wow, this is insanely cool. It isn't often I say that about a sales presentation that's older than I am. The Linux community can learn a lot from you guys. I just hope that we're anything like this in twenty years. Now let me see if I can find a Gloria Gaynor 8 track and my rollerskates

Re: Shutdown problem

2002-08-30 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Try getting the newest possible qeth and qdio drivers that will work with your kernel, either from SuSE or IBM's Developerworks site. Jay Brenneman z/OS System Build and Installation Dept. C90A 1A26/710 T/L: 295 - 7745 Extern: 845 - 435 - 7745 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Another article on LINUX MF hardware

2002-08-30 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
Peons are not allowed to discuss these issues with vendors. Unfortunately rather than listen to me, management decided to sign long term contracts (3-5 yrs) with vendors (CA, BMC, etc) that say even through we have about 700 mips, we'll pay y'all for 1000 mips for the length of the contract. No

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Rich Smrcina
If this is truely a sandbox system and you really don't give a big hoot about performance, this system will be great. We should all be so lucky! (are you listening Bob?) On Friday 30 August 2002 09:18 am, you wrote: I'm not up to speed on VM yet, so three followup questions:

Re: August 16 IUCV patch

2002-08-30 Thread Pat Carroll
Thanks Rob - that approach seems to work. There still seems to be a problem with the patch, though. The patch hits three files: iucv.c. iucv.h, and netiucv.c The first two (iucv.c and iucv.h) apply fine, but the patch to netiucv.c fails to verify Here's the first failing hunk from

Re: Stupid idea?

2002-08-30 Thread Jason W. Strnad
It is important to note, however, that SuSE's YaST product is NOT GPL and has different re-distribution terms. -jasons Post, Mark K wrote: To answer the other questions you raised, you are free to redistribute anything that is covered by the GPL, or similar license that meets the OSI

Re: August 16 IUCV patch

2002-08-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Patrick, I would say you need to bump your -p parameter to at least -p3, maybe -p4 (I always have to play around with that to get it right). The system where I could play with this is undergoing some glibc surgery right now, so I can't verify that. Mark Post -Original Message- From: P

Re: August 16 IUCV patch

2002-08-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
At 07:17 30-08-02, P A Carroll wrote: missing header for unified diff at line 8 of patch Ah yes. Unlike the previous patches this is the pure cvs output I think. Just edit the first two lines out and make sure to be in the drivers/390/net directory when you apply the patch (without a -p

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Dave Myers
In a message dated 8/29/2002 10:36:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark, David, Thanks for the input. I'm surprised that 100+mips isn't enough to run what I've laid out, given dynamically weighting for CP and dynamic storage reconfiguration. I agree that the

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Dave, I know you can issue a #cp def stor 64M (for example) command to set the amount of virtual storage for a guest. In the past, that normally caused severe problems for the guest, requiring a re-IPL. I don't know if the same was/is true for CPs. How the dynamic changes get handled (or not)

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Rich, That's what you've got that laptop with Hercules for, isn't it? :) Mark Post -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: H50 sandbox If this is truely a sandbox system and you really

Re: OT (for the Linux folks): Original VM/370 sales presentation

2002-08-30 Thread Alan Cox
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 14:07, Alex deVries wrote: Wow, this is insanely cool. It isn't often I say that about a sales presentation that's older than I am. Most of the presentations I have to suffer feel like they are older than I am cynic Alan

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Rich Smrcina
Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution. On Friday 30 August 2002 10:22 am, you wrote: Rich, That's what you've got that laptop with Hercules for, isn't it? :) Mark Post -- Rich

R+D Journal

2002-08-30 Thread Mike Grundy
Just got the latest IBM Journal of Research and Development in the mail and it's the IBM eServer z900 issue! Some articles on the web: http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd46-45.html Thanks Mike -- If we blow up, whatever's left of me is kicking your butt!

Re: OT (for the Linux folks): Original VM/370 sales presentation

2002-08-30 Thread Christine Brogan
Wow, a self-proclaimed Linux punk who is admitting there is something to learn from the VM community! Woohoo! Life keeps getting better and better :-) Thanks Alex! :-) Christine Brogan From: Alex deVries [EMAIL PROTECTED]@VM.MARIST.EDU on 08/30/2002 09:07 AM AST Please respond

Re: Another article on LINUX MF hardware

2002-08-30 Thread James Melin
A contract like that with CA has resulted in Hennepin County dumping EVERY CA product we have and going with IBM equivalents. Even AFTER the conversion costs, we'll save well over a million dollars the first year. CA couldn't even match IBM's prices on the equivalent products for a new contract.

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Phil Payne
Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution. Even a real S/390 has to be licensed. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803

OSA-E problem with SuSE 7.0 CD on z800

2002-08-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Baril
Hi , I have successfully installed SuSE Linux 7.0 several times on MP3000 through the PCI Ethernet cards. I'm now trying to install from the same CDs on an z800 with OSA-Express Fast Ethernet ports. I get to the point when the three sets of pings are being done. The first set, i.e. to itself,

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 09:33:20PM +0200, Phil Payne wrote: Indeed, but there's nothing like a real S/390 and no fear of retribution. Even a real S/390 has to be licensed. I'm pretty sure the fear of retribution was not about Arrr, matey! I'm a *PIRATE* on the High Seas Of IBM Licensed

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
100 mips isn't enough to run VM? My first systems programmer job in 1984 we had a 4331 running VM/SP 2 with VSE as a guest under it (which was where we moved all the applications from our old Univac machine.) It only had, I think, 0.4 mips. That's 400Kips, folks, and 4M of real memory. Worked

Re: R+D Journal

2002-08-30 Thread Jim Elliott
Just got the latest IBM Journal of Research and Development in the mail and it's the IBM eServer z900 issue! Some articles on the web: http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd46-45.html Mike: Note that all of the Research servers are down for annual maintenance until Tuesday morning. I

Re: H50 sandbox

2002-08-30 Thread David Boyes
On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 02:12:26PM -0700, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: 100 mips isn't enough to run VM? It's not the VM parts I'm worried about -- they'll play nice. It's the combination of OS/390, z/OS, VSE and Linux guests PLUS a VM system that makes me say that you may be a tad underpowered here.