Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Jon R. Doyle
Read good Marketing John, dig deep and you will see it is "pay me consulting for ye hack" Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, John Summerfield wrote: > On

Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread John Summerfield
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:31, you wrote: > I have too, it is my experience RH is new to the multi-platform > capability, but they are not new to marketing, they are great at that, ala > M$. RH has had Alpha and Sparc for years I think in both 32 and 64-bit. Recently it's culled some. I'm slightly pu

Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Jon R. Doyle
Never seen thier Sparc port, wow, I fogot Alpha, and I run one here on my desk, a Miata, good catch. Right they had a couple revs, last one CPQ had to pay them to do it. Point being they are great for MKTing, but IMHO SuSE has them cold on Engineering. But, case in point, the Alpha, the best techn

Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Alex deVries
Jon R. Doyle wrote: I have too, it is my experience RH is new to the multi-platform capability, but they are not new to marketing, they are great at that, ala M$. I don't think that Red Hat is new to non-IA32 archs at all. I'm sure I'm getting my years wrong, but they did have an Alpha and Spa

Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Jon R. Doyle
>From what I read on the RH site the "other" ports are custom hacks, supported through thier consulting. I know we have "boxed" kits here in-house for: SuSE i-series x-series (i386) z-series p-series ?-series 64bit Builds or kits outside IBM sparc amd-64 (sledgehammer) ppc-MAC I have too, it i

Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread John Summerfield
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:17, you wrote: > SuSE and Red Hat both have a contractual obligation to provide Linux > distributions across all of IBM's hardware lines. How often do you happen to know? The latest I can see at RH's ftp site is: ftp> dir 7.2/en/os 200 PORT command successful. Consider using

Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-10 Thread John Summerfield
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 22:27, you wrote: > On Sun, 2002-11-10 at 01:55, John Summerfield wrote: > > Is this a reason to not close down those avenues that are easy? Seems to > > me that if you fix some, you have fewer left to fix. > > > > As the philospher said, a journey of a thousand leagues starts w

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Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Post, Mark K
Anne, I would say that more Linux/390 installations are SuSE than Red Hat because SuSE had the "first to market" advantage in this case. Between the two, SuSE is the only one with a GA 64-bit distribution for zSeries. My understanding is that the gap in numbers is closing somewhat. SuSE and Red

What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?

2002-11-10 Thread Peticolas, Anne
Hi, I'm very inexperienced with S/390 Linux but have downloaded a SuSE version and brought it up in an LPAR. I have the impression (true?) that more sites, even in the US, use SuSE for S/390 than Redhat, and I know I went to an IBM free class last month about Linux/390 applica

Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-10 Thread Jan Jaeger
From: Ulrich Weigand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CPU Arch Security Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 17:55:53 +0100 Well, Linux has capabilities nowadays, but they aren't much used in your typical distribution. There are also patche

Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-10 Thread Ulrich Weigand
Jan Jaeger wrote: >I think that the real issue here is that Linux (or unix in general) does has >litte to offer with regard to program capabilities (ref keykos/eros micro >kernel designs). Under Linux, (acl based) one basically has all the >authorisations of the user under which one is running.

Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-10 Thread Alan Cox
On Sun, 2002-11-10 at 01:55, John Summerfield wrote: > Is this a reason to not close down those avenues that are easy? Seems to me > that if you fix some, you have fewer left to fix. > > As the philospher said, a journey of a thousand leagues starts with a single > step. >From a security view poin

Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-10 Thread Jan Jaeger
I think that the real issue here is that Linux (or unix in general) does has litte to offer with regard to program capabilities (ref keykos/eros micro kernel designs). Under Linux, (acl based) one basically has all the authorisations of the user under which one is running. (setuid programs being