Novell tells me that SLES9 is out of support! Most of us are running
SLES9 and some SLES8! They released SLES10 only just and only for s390x,
whatever that means! Is it 64 bit?
How can Novell sunset SLES9 so quickly?
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Ranga Nathan wrote:
Novell tells me that SLES9 is out of support! Most of us are running
SLES9 and some SLES8! They released SLES10 only just and only for s390x,
whatever that means! Is it 64 bit?
How can Novell sunset SLES9 so quickly?
Who was that? Give me his number NOW.
(Out of support? I
hi,
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:59:49PM -0700, Ranga Nathan wrote:
Novell tells me that SLES9 is out of support! Most of us are running
SLES9 and some SLES8! They released SLES10 only just and only for s390x,
whatever that means! Is it 64 bit?
How can Novell sunset SLES9 so quickly?
NO. NO.
Ihno and Hannes have already addressed the support question. In terms
of SLES10, as discussed in this list, yes it is 64-bit only. IBM sees
that most of its customers have upgraded to zSeries machines, so they
wanted to cut the cost of supporting the 31-bit versions of the code
they maintain.
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:19:18 Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The critical piece I have not yet figured out is multipath.
There is a book called How to use FC-attached SCSI devices with Linux on
System z - SC33-8291-00 at
Post, Mark K wrote:
Ihno and Hannes have already addressed the support question. In terms
of SLES10, as discussed in this list, yes it is 64-bit only. IBM sees
that most of its customers have upgraded to zSeries machines, so they
wanted to cut the cost of supporting the 31-bit versions of the
If any one wants it, I've prepared a How-to for enabling
root-on-multipath SLES 9 and can send you a copy.
It'll probably be on www.linuxvm.org but I can't say when.
This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged
Novell and Red Hat did that at the encouragement of IBM, i.e., they're
no longer paying them to produce a 31-bit platform for the mainframe.
Hence, lower costs.
The IBM developers at some point will stop testing changes on 31-bit
systems. No QA, lower costs, etc., etc.
Mark Post
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Hopefully soon. Converting Word documents to HTML within the
linuxvm.org template can be a bit tedious, shall we say.
Mark Post
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Romanowski, John (OFT)
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:38 PM
To:
Post, Mark K wrote:
Novell and Red Hat did that at the encouragement of IBM, i.e., they're
no longer paying them to produce a 31-bit platform for the mainframe.
Hence, lower costs.
The IBM developers at some point will stop testing changes on 31-bit
systems. No QA, lower costs, etc., etc.
Which has nothing to do with what we're talking about: being able to run
the most current versions of SLES and RHEL on current machinery. The
cost of memory was never the reason for people not to move to zSeries.
That was just one component of the reason.
Mark Post
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Post, Mark K wrote:
Which has nothing to do with what we're talking about: being able to run
the most current versions of SLES and RHEL on current machinery. The
cost of memory was never the reason for people not to move to zSeries.
That was just one component of the reason.
Mark Post
Post, Mark K wrote:
Which has nothing to do with what we're talking about: being able to run
the most current versions of SLES and RHEL on current machinery. The
cost of memory was never the reason for people not to move to zSeries.
That was just one component of the reason.
Mark Post
I
From: Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Other than for VSE/ESA 2.7, ALL IBM operating systems for 31-bit
are now out of service (or very close to it). This includes z/OS
and z/VM (V4 goes out of service in 2 weeks). Our strategy is all
new development is 64-bit only, and Novell
Is anyone out there running zVM 5.1 on a Z9 model 503? Any problems?
Lea Stahr
Sr. System Administrator
Linux/Unix Team
630-753-5445
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Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IBM no longer provides
updates for Linux for 31-bit (for the 2.6.16 and later kernels).
Jim
Jim,
are you saying that the whatsnew (Patches 6 and 7) can _NOT_ be used
to build an s390 2.6.16 kernel?
See
Mark Perry wrote:
Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IBM no longer provides
updates for Linux for 31-bit (for the 2.6.16 and later kernels).
Jim
Jim,
are you saying that the whatsnew (Patches 6 and 7) can _NOT_ be used
to build an s390 2.6.16 kernel?
See
That's a very vague question
We're running SLES 7,8,9 under z/VM 5.1 on a z9-109. We currently don't
have any outstanding issues related to linux, z/vm, or the hardware
Care to elaborate?
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of
Wait! Godwins Law in effect! No one has brought up Hitler or Nazi's!
Discussion still open.
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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Post, Mark K
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:19 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: SLES9
No, he's been contradicted by the Boeblingen guys before about this. By
specifying CONFIG_64BIT=y or not, you can get a 64-bit or 31-bit
kernel. Otherwise my Slack/390 systems wouldn't be able to generate
31-bit 2.6 kernels, and I most certainly can.
The thing about the 2.6 kernels is that
I'm finding that multipath support in Linux sits above the SCSI layer, and
therefore also above the zFCP layer. Thought I caught a hint of zSeries
specific configuration in the use of the multipath= parm. But
experience is showing it to NOT be platform specific.
-- R;
FWIW, VSE/ESA 2.7 will be withdrawn from service on 02/28/2007. The
current z/VSE 3.1 is still 31-bit also, though. z/VSE 4.1 will be the
first 64-bit version, no availability date on that yet.
Given this, I'd like to pose again the question of why IBM has not
approved the 64-bit version of
Post, Mark K wrote:
No, he's been contradicted by the Boeblingen guys before about this. By
specifying CONFIG_64BIT=y or not, you can get a 64-bit or 31-bit
kernel. Otherwise my Slack/390 systems wouldn't be able to generate
31-bit 2.6 kernels, and I most certainly can.
The thing about the
-Original Message-
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David Boyes
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:48 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Getting to 64-bit systems *legitimately*...
FWIW, VSE/ESA 2.7 will be withdrawn from service on
multipath= parm seems specifically NOT for zSeries ;)
Configuring the zfcp device driver-
The zfcp device driver currently does not perform any port discovery or
LUN scanning to determine the ports and LUNs in the SAN. Every port and
LUN in the SAN that should be accessed via zfcp must be
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