Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Pavelka, Tomas
Excuse my ignorance, but what is FBAF? This is a minidisk definition in the user directory: MDISK FBAF 3390 4819 1000 VMBL2H WR FBAF is the virtual address of the disk. When we first ran into this, we were doing experiments and weren't sure if we are able to reproduce the problem. But we had

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Pavelka, Tomas
Thanks for the replies, here are my thoughts on the problem: I agree that before a minidisk is given to a guest (before the guest is started for the first time) the minidisk needs to be formatted and any data that was previously on the disk erased. The question is, when to do it and from which

Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-13 Thread Gabe Goldberg
I'm writing about Back to the Future for mainframers -- historic (but sometimes forgotten) mainframe lessons needed by and best-to-be learned by new mainframers (but everyone, really). This includes favorite techniques, conventional wisdom and common knowledge so obvious that they risk not being

Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-13 Thread Tom Kennelly
Wisdom: 1. You can not tune your way out of a lack of capacity. 2. Computer performance is based upon a three legged stool analogy consisting of a balance of CPU, Memory, and I/O in the proper balance otherwise the stool falls over. Tom Kennelly System z and zEC12 Technical Specialist Oracle

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Tom Huegel
Here is another possibility. As in your possibility number 1 write a CMS format on every new disk. Then run CMS2CDL exec which can be downloaded from IBM's VM download page. The CMS2CDL runs very quickly, it only writes a CDL VTOC with LINUX partition information. CMS2CDL first checks that the

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Stefan Haberland
Hi Tomas, I have a possible solution for you from within Linux. You can set the device online with raw_track_access enabled. $ echo 1 /sys/bus/ccw/devices/0.0./raw_track_access $ chccwdev -e Please ignore the few Buffer I/O errors in syslog. Afterwards you can format the device

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Pavelka, Tomas
Thanks Stefan, this is actually a path I was investigating today except that I took a slightly different approach. I have noticed that the Linux driver looks at the size of the first records on the track to check if it is any recognizable format. It checks if the key is 4 bytes long. So I

Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Herczeg, Zoltan
Our operators run many excel vb macros for production on a windows pc. I wanted to move this workload to a virtual linux machine on our ifl. Does anyone have any suggestions for an excel replacement that will run on a linux virtual machine under z/vm? Thanks Zoltan

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
You want openoffice. I believe the site is openoffice.org. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Herczeg, Zoltan Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:37 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Excel replacement for linux on z Our

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Post
On 3/13/2013 at 03:37 PM, Herczeg, Zoltan zol...@krasdalefoods.com wrote: Our operators run many excel vb macros for production on a windows pc. I wanted to move this workload to a virtual linux machine on our ifl. Does anyone have any suggestions for an excel replacement that will run

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Michel Beaulieu
Hi, I know it is a long shot: how about using java with jxl (excel api). Michel Beaulieu/* Any comments express are only my own opinion */ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 15:37:11 -0400 From: zol...@krasdalefoods.com Subject: Excel replacement for linux on z To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Our

Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Herczeg, Zoltan wrote: Our operators run many excel vb macros for production on a windows pc. I wanted to move this workload to a virtual linux machine on our ifl. Does anyone have any suggestions for an excel replacement that will run on a linux virtual machine under

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Good point on the MIPS. But based on my own experience sometimes you have to prove to others that this is REAL Linux and not some bastardization contrived for the mainframe. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent:

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Michael Simms
You could user LibreOffice Calc. At least that's what I use if I must use a spreadsheet on the IFL. From: Herczeg, Zoltan zol...@krasdalefoods.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:37 PM Subject: Excel replacement for linux on z

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Mark Post
On 3/13/2013 at 12:20 PM, Stefan Haberland s...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: Hi Tomas, I have a possible solution for you from within Linux. You can set the device online with raw_track_access enabled. $ echo 1 /sys/bus/ccw/devices/0.0./raw_track_access $ chccwdev -e Please

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Henry Schaffer
I've just started looking at macros under in Calc (Open/Libre Office) and there appears to be a significant difference in the way complicated macros are handled. At this early stage of looking, there seems to be a major problem in migrating a macro-rich spreadsheet. Please tell me that it is not

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
Tomas, There's another possibility: format the DASD from CMS using the LXFMT program. That eliminates the need to format again from Linux. LXFMT is available on Sine Nomine's web site.    

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread Ejnar Z Rath
Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu wrote on 2013/03/13 20:52:31: From: R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com [..] The OpenOffice / LibreOffice suite also exists (and are REALLY fat), but carries a Java dependency, so depending on the Linux variant you are using, availability may vary based

Re: DASD format from Linux only

2013-03-13 Thread Scott Rohling
I actually setup DIRMAINT (using a user exit) at one customer to format deleted minidisks with LXFMT rather then FORMAT .. worked great - but really only useful if you hand out the same size minidisks to Linux guests (this customer strictly used 1-END minidisks for Linux guests, so it saved quite

Re: Excel replacement for linux on z

2013-03-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013, Ejnar Z Rath wrote: Unless something has changed lately the use of Java is an option not a dependency for OOo/LO As I noted, the answer varies by Linux distribution in play ... the problem is more an artifact of solving the build requirements than of function after it is

Re: Query for Destination z article -- mainframes back to the future

2013-03-13 Thread Thomas Kern
3) if you aren't measuring it, you can't tune it. 4) if you aren't measuring it, you really are looking to drive over that cliff. /Tom Kern On 03/13/2013 10:45 AM, Tom Kennelly wrote: Wisdom: 1. You can not tune your way out of a lack of capacity. 2. Computer performance is based upon a