Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
Ted, I can't speak to the differences between kernels, but also I am very interested in your thread. Our SLES10 and SLES 11 experience has been that even with VDISK as swap on a VM system that is NOT overcommitted on memory, that any linux swapping is just kills us with the same sort of result

Interesting article: Bitrot and atomic COWs: Inside “next-gen” filesystems

2014-01-15 Thread John McKown
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/bitrot-and-atomic-cows-inside-next-gen-filesystems/ -- Wasn't there something about a PASCAL programmer knowing the value of everything and the Wirth of nothing? Maranatha! <>< John McKown

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread David Boyes
I'm not sure what you would expect VM to be able to do here. All OSes pretty much suspend operations while this kind of "what can I do without" decision-making is going on inside the kernel. If the Linux kernel is taking it's time sorting out what pages are clean/dirty/pageable, the only thin

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Barton Robinson
With all of the installations (100s) i've worked with using vdisk for swap, this would be the first complaint i've heard with the exception of some bad configuration defaults. If you had really good performance management tools, I'd be happy to look at the data. On 1/15/2014 5:44 AM, Veencamp,

Re: Swap behavior change between SLES 11SP2 and 11SP3?

2014-01-15 Thread Veencamp, Jonathon D.
I don't mean to hijack Ted's thread on the swap differences he's seeing between SLES 11 SP2 and SP3. I have a different issue, and his issue is more immediate. I'll make a different thread on my issues. I'd like to get some feedback on VM SET REORDER OFF for large hosts... Jon -Original M

Re: LINUX-390 Digest - 14 Jan 2014 to 15 Jan 2014 - Unfinished

2014-01-15 Thread Ted Rodriguez-Bell
David: You wrote: Ø If backleveling the kernel makes the problem go away, then it's clearly a kernel logic problem in the s390x port. Thanks! That was my logic too; it's nice to have it validated by someone who knows more about the kernel than I do. Yours very truly, Ted Rodriguez-Bell Enterpr