Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread John Summerfield
> > I really think you should keep your IMS data in IMS (high > > availability, > > good RAS, excellent performance) and use OTMA or ODBA to > > access it from > > the remote system rather than trying to port your application > > and data to > > a Linux system. If you want to port to Linux you sho

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread Stephen Frazier
orrections -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Campbell Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:38 PM To: Linux on 390 Port Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux I suspect my advanced age is showing... ...especially since I remember working w

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread David Boyes
> I really think you should keep your IMS data in IMS (high > availability, > good RAS, excellent performance) and use OTMA or ODBA to > access it from > the remote system rather than trying to port your application > and data to > a Linux system. If you want to port to Linux you should > re-engin

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread Dougie G Lawson
> Is there any open source implementation of a hierarchical database like IMS > for Linux? Closest you'll get is, probably, BerkeleyDB from http://www.sleepycat.com/, but it doesn't come anywhere near the capabilities of IMS DEDB. And the API isn't CALL xxxTDLI USING GU| GHU| GN| GHN| GNP| GHNP|

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread Phil Payne
> Yes, and the "Ashton" in "Ashton-Tate" was George Tate's macaw. The Leica's original lenses were the Elmax (Ernst Leitz Max) and Hektor - both were named after dogs belonging to the man who calculated them, Professor Berek. We now return you ... -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
Is there any open source implementation of a hierarchical database like IMS for Linux? Thanks, Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 6:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2002-02-27 at 18:37, John Campbell wrote: > > Now for bonus points what famous dn product was originally called "Vulcan" > Why, dBase II, of course. Yes, and the "Ashton" in "Ashton-Tate" was George Tate's macaw. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-28 Thread soup
> > programming on an 1130 (I still have the book; I use it to frighten > > many of the "children" > > I read a book on the 11xx programming. All done in sort of happy non scary > guidebook stuff. I've never tried it. The university library still had that > alongside programming and wiring

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread John Summerfield
> > > > There's nothing called ISAM. > > > > > > (actually ISAM is a standard defined by the open group) > > > > More likely here people are referring to ISAM as implemented in the > > 1960s on OS and (presumably) DOS. > > Where do you think the history of it and the standard evolved from. And > y

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread Alan Cox
> programming on an 1130 (I still have the book; I use it to frighten > many of the "children" I read a book on the 11xx programming. All done in sort of happy non scary guidebook stuff. I've never tried it. The university library still had that alongside programming and wiring the univac

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
How does c-tree from www.faircom.com fare against Berkeley DB? Thanks, Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 4:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux > > What are the ISAM opti

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread John Campbell
>> > > > There's nothing called ISAM. > > > > (actually ISAM is a standard defined by the open group) > > More likely here people are referring to ISAM as implemented in the > 1960s on OS and (presumably) DOS. Where do you think the history of it and the standard evolved from. And yes I k

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread Alan Cox
> > > There's nothing called ISAM. > > > > (actually ISAM is a standard defined by the open group) > > More likely here people are referring to ISAM as implemented in the > 1960s on OS and (presumably) DOS. Where do you think the history of it and the standard evolved from. And yes I know about D

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread John Summerfield
> > > What are the ISAM options on Linux/390 and Linux/86? > > > > There's nothing called ISAM. > > (actually ISAM is a standard defined by the open group) More likely here people are referring to ISAM as implemented in the 1960s on OS and (presumably) DOS. No, Alan, not PCDOS or MSDOS. -- Chee

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread Alan Cox
> > What are the ISAM options on Linux/390 and Linux/86? > > There's nothing called ISAM. (actually ISAM is a standard defined by the open group) > There are db1, db2, db3 - Berkeley DB routings. If you're writing new > (to Unix) code use db3. Generally db3 is the right thing, although if you a

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread John Summerfield
h Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux > > > I'm not sure about the IMS part, but there are a number of COBOL development > environments available for Linux: > > http://www

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread soup
> What are the ISAM options on Linux/390 and Linux/86? Well, considering that IBM bought Informix, it shouldn't be all that difficult to lobby IBM for an s/390 Linux version of the C-ISAM library. Given the story of how DB2 was first put up on Linux, I'd b

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-27 Thread Jim Elliott
> Well, considering that IBM bought Informix, it shouldn't be all that > difficult to lobby IBM for an s/390 Linux version of the C-ISAM > library. C-ISAM has been available for Linux for S/390 for over a year. Note that this is NOT the same as the ISAM we remember not so fondly from the mainfram

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
What are the ISAM options on Linux/390 and Linux/86? Thanks, Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux I'm not sure about the IMS part, but

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux Samy: > What are all the COBOL compilers available for Linux? Acucorp has a COBOL today for Linux on S/390. MicroFocus has announced they are going to make theirs availa

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-26 Thread Dougie G Lawson
> Are there any IMS database clones available for Linux? No, the only clone that ever existed was MicroFocus COBOL IMS which is/was Windows only. Access to IMS DB is possible using DB2 stored procs and ODBA. See http://www.redbooks.ibm.com - SG24-5485. Access to IMS DC (aka TM) is possible using

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-25 Thread Rich Smrcina
I'm not sure about the IMS part, but there are a number of COBOL development environments available for Linux: http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/solutions/s390da/linuxproduct.html On Monday 25 February 2002 03:34 pm, you wrote: > There is an application running on S390 written in COBO

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-25 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
I found out that the IMS is of DEDB type. Thanks, Samy Rengsamy. -Original Message- From: Jim Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux Samy: > What are all the COBOL compilers available

Re: Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-25 Thread Jim Elliott
Samy: > What are all the COBOL compilers available for Linux? Acucorp has a COBOL today for Linux on S/390. MicroFocus has announced they are going to make theirs available. > Are there any IMS database clones available for Linux? Ugh. What kind of IMS database (HIDAM, HISAM, HDAM, etc.)? Reg

Cobol and IMS for Linux

2002-02-25 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
There is an application running on S390 written in COBOL using IMS Database. This application could handle several millions of records. I am looking around to see if this could be ported to a smaller platform to handle several thousands of records at a reduced cost. Is it doable if I chose to go